Auto-rotation on resurrection

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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Get rid of this. It has no business in the game.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

What is auto-rotation on resurrection?

EDIT: Signed

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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The camera rotating around.

There is never a reason to remove interface control from the player.

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

/signed. /signedtwice.

I have always hated the way the camera angle changes and begins to revolve when you die, forcing you to re-adjust it to stop the spinning and stop staring at the top of your head. Even when farming I never use the /resign command because I'd rather map back and spend time walking to the portal than to be constantly fiddling with the camera.

The Cake Archer

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Mo/A

You do realize it points the way your facing when you res, right?

IrishX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

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Originally Posted by The Cake Archer View Post
You do realize it points the way your facing when you res, right?
More often than not, you want to be looking in a different direction when you rez. Most of the time, it will be in the direction you were looking in while you were taking your nap.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

/signed just because it makes me nauseous when done repeatedly (like death leveling pets)

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

/signed, its really annoying.

JASON626

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/

/signed

and not just on rez

The Cake Archer

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishX View Post
More often than not, you want to be looking in a different direction when you rez. Most of the time, it will be in the direction you were looking in while you were taking your nap.
So just move the camera so its facing where you want it to when you res.

Not a huge deal.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cake Archer View Post
So just move the camera so its facing where you want it to when you res.

Not a huge deal.
I do that. Then it moves when I rez. Congratulations! You found the problem!


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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran View Post
Tip: Don't die and you won't have this 'problem'.
Its not an issue in PvE, but in PvP there are many times I need to be doing something immediately upon resurrection and the things I need to be doing do not include adjusting my camera.

If you have some pro tips to never dying in PvP I'm all ears.

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I always have to spin my character around when the shrines bring me back. At least spin it from the the other angle or something.

/signed like a mofo!

Roupe

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

I think It (the rotation upon death) is a anti-bot measure, since it sabotages a neat navigation upon death. This removes "landmarks" from the bots. Thats why they use target closest ally, etc.

If it was removed, Bots would swarm. Since the hindrance for navigation would be gone.

Not that it has stopped the current bots that has adapted to the environment.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

/signed a thousand times. I hate that annoying, pointless game mechanic.

@Roupe: blocking asian accounts from accessing the rest of the servers has proven highly effective in cutting off gold farmers.

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I think Roupe has a point. Getting any note on being killed and rezed would just mean auto-running to the next teleport/post or whatever they have in mind. That doesn't mean it's gonna affect players who use follow bots or scripts that pick up next locations automatically (yellow portal = yellow quarry)

Zahr - Even with the asian servers blocked off, we still have other bots to contend with. Until the penalties get overhauled and include some real consequences, punks will still play away from their keyboards thinking they got a free ride coming.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by headlesshobbs View Post
I think Roupe has a point.
Considering that this auto rotation has been in the game since release, since before Anet ever thought about 'bots' and that he himself admits it isn't doing anything, no he does not have a point.

careyt

careyt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Order of the Immortal [Vamp]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Dr View Post
Considering that this auto rotation has been in the game since release, since before Anet ever thought about 'bots' and that he himself admits it isn't doing anything, no he does not have a point.
I am fairly sure that Anet ALWAYS knew about botting. Botting in Guild Wars is FAR from the first instance of an MMO Bot. Bots had been used for a long time before Guild Wars and I'd bet that this auto rotation is part of their fight against it.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by headlesshobbs View Post
Zahr - Even with the asian servers blocked off, we still have other bots to contend with. Until the penalties get overhauled and include some real consequences, punks will still play away from their keyboards thinking they got a free ride coming.
Back when we still had the gold farmers and their ad spamming, ArenaNet tried cutting the asians off from the players.

Every single bot, gold selling spammer, bulk tome seller, etc, vanished. Completely.

Then they let the asians back when the one or two actual players there whined, and the bots and gold sellers immediately reappeared.

Neo Atomisk

Neo Atomisk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

State College, Pennsylvania, United States

Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

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/signed, gets annoying when you're in one of those situations where you might res with aggro and have to run away.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by careyt View Post
I'd bet that this auto rotation is part of their fight against it.
I don't know how to put this other than, you are wrong, that is not how bots work, they don't use camera rotation to judge situations the way a player does.

Furthermore it is not affecting bots. As such any (already unfounded) argument of "its to reduce bots" is irrelevant. I'll tell you what it is affecting, real players.

SpiritThief

SpiritThief

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

R/Me

/signed

Doesn't annoy me like it does him but it just doesn't need to be there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Dr View Post
If you have some pro tips to never dying in PvP I'm all ears.
Don't pvp

Roupe

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
I don't know how to put this other than, you are wrong, that is not how bots work, they don't use camera rotation to judge situations the way a player does.
Due to the auto-rotation, the current bots have it harder to utilize the normal keyboard keys for movement.
Since the window is showing the direction that's forward.

If the auto rotation wouldn't exist -the window view of what was front would be "static" and predictable. It would then be even simpler to make a bot script. and bots could then use the manual keys for movement and have it use the fast keys to move forward, left, etc.

Bots have existed before internet.