x / A in Jade Quarry?

vader

vader

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

P/W

I haven't played Jade Quarry in a long time but with the weekend's event and the JQ Zaishen quest, I figured I'd give it a try (Kurzick side). What I saw really surprised me. I'd say that well over 50% of the Luxons were using Assassin as their secondary so they can constantly shadow step (or whatever teleport skill they use) all over the place. I think the only Assassin combinations I didn't see over the weekend were Mesmer / Assassin and Paragon / Assassin. Are these shadow step builds really viable builds?

The Scorpion Knight

The Scorpion Knight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

I use it to step up to the ranger shrines and take it out. Probably wouldn't make it if I tried to run up there. It takes forever to walk around to get to an enemy on a top ledge, plus you can get them by surprise sometimes this way.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Shadowstep is practically required if you're going to play melee or PBAoE there, and for everyone else dash is the best no-spec run boost.

CagedinSanity

CagedinSanity

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Away from you.

W/

All the Mo/P's there and you comment on shadow steppers?

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

http://gw.gamependium.com/tools/builds/show/6079

Since deaths don't matter in JQ, many people run this build and its variants.

Owik Gall

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by CagedinSanity View Post
All the Mo/P's there and you comment on shadow steppers?
^This.

Due to this, it's made JQ a little harder for the Kurz. Although not all the way too difficult. I've seen more Kurz wins than Lux regardless of the number of monks the Lux had. Still, it's annoying to see all of them go into the Lux side and few with the Kurz.

On subject, shadow step is only one of the viable sin skills in JQ, but another I saw of the assassin class was a bit more annoying. Shadow Form. I've seen casters blow quarries up while under that skill. The opponents would have no choice but to stand by and watch helplessly as their quarry gets nuked. Granted there is no monk guarding it. Those monks in JQ can sure hold up an NPC very well. There are ways to kill off a SF nuker:

Cast degens before SF is up.

Get near it and use Flame Burst, Inferno, or other skills like that.

Use touch skills or signets (a touching ranger would shine on this one) because SF only negates attacks and spells.

Last, but not least, remember who was the one using the SF and warn your team about it so they can try and kill it before it reaches a quarry.

There are other ways to deal with them, too. I just don't know of them, yet. Though SF is tolerable, it's still a problem skill for JQ, so let us hope Anet can do something to it so it won't be this much of a threat anymore.

Scythe O F Glory

Scythe O F Glory

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

New Jersey

League of Elite [LoE]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CagedinSanity View Post
All the Mo/P's there and you comment on shadow steppers?
OP is talking about the Luxons, who don't seem to have the mental capacity to run a Mo/P.

Picuso

Picuso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

far far away

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Owik Gall View Post
There are other ways to deal with them, too. I just don't know of them, yet. Though SF is tolerable, it's still a problem skill for JQ, so let us hope Anet can do something to it so it won't be this much of a threat anymore.
Wait until he puts SF up, use Expunge Enchantments. Kill him (or let NPCs kill him).

@Scythe O F Glory: lol flame at luxons.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Shadowsteps are awesome in JQ.

I use my Dervish in there. I love jumping up to and slaughtering the RoJ monks before they even react

They're pretty necessary if you run any sort of melee in there, and even if you don't they're very handy. So yeah, you'll see a lot of people run /A in there.