Kathandrax redway

ok for those who dont know me i am red phyve, and with the help of some of my fellow SCAR buddies, ive come up with a build that works in kath , raggars, FoW, and with tweaking DoA.
im putting this out cuz at this point in the game theres no point keeping any more secrets, and im hoping to put the ele back in the game.
with plenty of room for improvement 17 min without cons seems to be a decent time for this build, enjoy.
red phyve
Player 1: Assassin/Elementalist
16 shadow arts
- Glyph of Swiftness
- Deadly Paradox
- Shadow Form {E}
- Death's Charge
- "I Am Unstoppable!"
- Great Dwarf Weapon
- Shadow Sanctuary
- Recall

Player 2: Assassin/Elementalist
16 shadow arts
- Glyph of Swiftness
- Deadly Paradox
- Shadow Form (PvP) {E}
- Death's Charge
- Great Dwarf Weapon
- "I Am Unstoppable!"
- Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom
- Feigned Neutrality

Player 3: Elementalist/Mesmer
16 earth
- Ebon Escape
- Ether Prism {E}
- "By Ural's Hammer!"
- Crystal Wave
- Teinai's Crystals
- "Finish Him!"
- Obsidian Flame
- Arcane Mimicry

Player 4: Elementalist/Mesmer

- Ebon Escape
- Ether Prism {E}
- "By Ural's Hammer!"
- Crystal Wave
- Teinai's Crystals
- Pain Inverter
- Obsidian Flame
- Arcane Mimicry

Player 5: Elementalist/Mesmer

- Ebon Escape
- Ether Prism {E}
- "By Ural's Hammer!"
- Crystal Wave
- Teinai's Crystals
- Pain Inverter
- Obsidian Flame
- Energy Blast

Player 6: Elementalist/Mesmer

- Ebon Escape
- Ether Prism {E}
- "By Ural's Hammer!"
- Crystal Wave
- Teinai's Crystals
- Light of Deldrimor
- Obsidian Flame
- Energy Blast

Player 7: Monk/Elementalist

- Infuse Health
- Patient Spirit
- Dwayna's Kiss
- Glyph of Lesser Energy
- Heal Party
- Breath of the Great Dwarf
- "Finish Him!"
- Unyielding Aura {E}

Player 8: Ritualist/Ranger

- Summon Spirits
- Painful Bond
- Signet of Spirits {E}
- Bloodsong
- Vampirism
- Feast of Souls
- Pain Inverter
- Flesh of My Flesh

[build prof=Assassin/Elementalist][Glyph of Swiftness][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form][Death's Charge]["I Am Unstoppable!"][Great Dwarf Weapon][Shadow Sanctuary][Recall][/build]
[build prof=Assassin/Elementalist][Glyph of Swiftness][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form (PvP)][Death's Charge][Great Dwarf Weapon]["I Am Unstoppable!"][Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom][Feigned Neutrality][/build]
[build prof=Elementalist/Mesmer][Ebon Escape][Ether Prism]["By Ural's Hammer!"][Crystal Wave][Teinai's Crystals]["Finish Him!"][Obsidian Flame][Arcane Mimicry][/build]
[build prof=Elementalist/Mesmer][Ebon Escape][Ether Prism]["By Ural's Hammer!"][Crystal Wave][Teinai's Crystals][Pain Inverter][Obsidian Flame][Arcane Mimicry][/build]
[build prof=Elementalist/Mesmer][Ebon Escape][Ether Prism]["By Ural's Hammer!"][Crystal Wave][Teinai's Crystals][Pain Inverter][Obsidian Flame][Energy Blast][/build]
[build prof=Elementalist/Mesmer][Ebon Escape][Ether Prism]["By Ural's Hammer!"][Crystal Wave][Teinai's Crystals][Light of Deldrimor][Obsidian Flame][Energy Blast][/build]
[build prof=Monk/Elementalist][Infuse Health][Patient Spirit][Dwayna's Kiss][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Heal Party][Breath of the Great Dwarf]["Finish Him!"][Unyielding Aura][/build]
[build prof=Ritualist/Ranger][Summon Spirits][Painful Bond][Signet of Spirits][Bloodsong][Vampirism][Feast of Souls][Pain Inverter][Flesh of My Flesh][/build]

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yah i posted the code anyway so people could just copy paste and repost in their own forums, and yes atts are missin =] thx for postin the templates, for fow, bring mantra of resolve instead of mimicry, replace the 3rd pve skills with lod,drop the rit for main tank and voila FoW redway make sure 1 ele keeps mimicry just in case the ua dies

GG Red, was happy to help ya in the testing stage, GG bringing eles back (more) into high-end PvE.

~Tuah.

Stopped reading here: Shadowform.

Quote: Originally Posted by deluxe

Stopped reading here: Shadowform. Why? If I understand the setup, the sins are simply tanking, not dealing damage. When aggro is gathered, the mess o' eles shadow step to the tanks and fire off all the PBAoE on their bars. If my understanding of the usage is correct, you could substitute other tanks for the sins. Ele terra tanks, warrior tanks, or whatever floats your boat.

Stopped reading here: Shadowform

If your going to stop reading at shadowform...well that's pretty ignorant of you.

And yes the perma sins do is simply tank and run floors.

Btw red drop the silly SoS rit if your using that for added PI fodder for mini boss on lvl 3 run a porogon or motogon (lawl patented for our 9min kathsc variations, running the power is yours). Paragons should cut ya down to about a 3-3-7 run but I don't know how apt your perma sins are.

You should have mentioned that if eles are not synced and if one rushes before others...its DP farm after that if aggro breaks. Wich is not the case in manly way where single war can wipe large group. In FoW i mean. I don't know about other areas. But nice build anyway.

Nice build. Since most of my PvE acquaintances quit, maybe i'll gather a bunch of handicapped infants so the 8 of us can clear kathandrax with it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Hell Darkblight

You should have mentioned that if eles are not synced and if one rushes before others...its DP farm after that if aggro breaks. Wich is not the case in manly way where single war can wipe large group. In FoW i mean. I don't know about other areas. But nice build anyway. Same with manly spike you have roughly 3 seconds until foes break and the spike should take 1-2 seconds with redway/manlyway

Its really a shame that more time is being spent theorycrafting the newest way to run shadowform, than making any attempt for PvP; you know, the other half of the game's content.

yes obviously spikes have to be coordinated, balls need to be good, also, we already have some improved versions of redway, i just posted here the originals and u guys work it from there, the sos rit helps bring down the boss fast, but i guess bringin a paragon sounds like a good idea.
for those of u who stopped reading at shadow form, lolz ok runs may be a bit slower but obby tank and er infuser could make this an all ele team.

Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Its really a shame that more time is being spent theorycrafting the newest way to run shadowform, than making any attempt for PvP; you know, the other half of the game's content. I wouldn't call PvP the other half. More like 1/4th (I'm being generous) of the game. PvP is small with a small playerbase. There is very very little incentive to play PvP at all. Unless Anet does something drastic I don't see PvP getting any better. Worse maybe.

Quote: Originally Posted by byteme!

I wouldn't call PvP the other half. More like 1/4th (I'm being generous) of the game. PvP is small with a small playerbase. There is very very little incentive to play PvP at all. Unless Anet does something drastic I don't see PvP getting any better. Worse maybe.
Agreed, but I'm slightly biased because I stray away from PvP considering now its a game of buildwars, not player skill.

Quote: Originally Posted by deluxe

Stopped reading here: Shadowform. lol agree!
I despise any form of team setups relying on Shadowform to do it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Bristlebane

lol agree!
I despise any form of team setups relying on Shadowform to do it. Then you might wanna uninstall the game considering 80% of the builds out there run atleast 1 Shadow Form sin in their team build.

Not trying to bash on you here, but with a perma tank or two and a few damage dealers, almost anything can be speed-cleared... Check out PvX. Every speed clear build has perma tanks, and usually nukers/cryers/RoJers, or some sort of similar gimmick. Guild Wars needs more creative players. Sigh....

Quote: Originally Posted by Schnellburg Agreed, but I'm slightly biased because I stray away from PvP considering now its a game of buildwars, not player skill. And yet this thread is about buildwarsing a new way to run shadowform. PvE and the desire for efficient farming builds (whether solo or team builds) has always been more buildwars related than PvP.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Pony Slaystation Not trying to bash on you here, but with a perma tank or two and a few damage dealers, almost anything can be speed-cleared... Check out PvX. Every speed clear build has perma tanks, and usually nukers/cryers/RoJers, or some sort of similar gimmick. Guild Wars needs more creative players. Sigh.... Tank and spank. Its been done in so many different incarnations. Tank doesn't matter so long as it doesn't die and spank can only be measured by efficiency.

This thread isn't about a new way to run shadowform. Look again, its about another way to use Ether Prism. We just did a clear, 16 mins and we were messing around for the most part.