Beware: Info Terrorists

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

My friends account just been hacked and I manage to "talk" with the hacker.

We do not allow the posting of names

Summery: He threaten my friends account, I gave him my home phone number. Yet he still didn't keep his word.

Is a new way to stealing? What should people do? Punishable by law? Discuss.

Edit: I gave him the number of a college teacher I swore revenge on. My paper was an A+ and she gave me a D+ for unclear thesis.

Edit 2: I might be royally screwed because my teacher knows I hate her... This could end good or REALLY bad.

Lihinel

Lihinel

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

Mind pointing out the important part for anyone not wanting to read your conversations with a semi brain dead?

Sure, one could try to go through the whole thing, but Ill read a book instead, thank you.

Is there anything in after the first 2 screens?

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

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Originally Posted by Lihinel View Post
Mind pointing out the important part for anyone not wanting to read your conversations with a semi brain dead?

Sure, one could try to go through the whole thing, but Ill read a book instead, thank you.

Is there anything in after the first 2 screens?
Yes, near the bottom. Plus is summarized it.

Jensy

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

I.. don't even... o_O Can we get like the cliffs notes version? >_>

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

Idk what to say, thats very ummm interesting.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

I wish you the best of luck getting your friend's account back.

I doubt it's punishable by law, considering the thief probably lives in china or korea, good luck getting a hold of them.

Smarty

Smarty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

England

Me/

I had a similar gold-buying conversation with Elnore earlier. Told them I loved them and wanted to marry them. Sadly they didn't reply after that.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Nathan you missed a few things unblanked .

Eskimoz

Eskimoz

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2009

My house

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that Chinese man had WONDERFUL English!

I'm sure that your friend can get in touch with NCsoft and have them "revert" his character back to its original state.

P.s. You're a real dumb person if you gave him your #

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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Err...cool story bro?

Lihinel

Lihinel

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eskimoz View Post
I'm sure that your friend can get in touch with NCsoft and have them "revert" his character back to its original state.
Not happening, at best he will get his account back in whatever state the intruder left it.

The Scorpion Knight

The Scorpion Knight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

Interesting read, sorry to hear.

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

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Why would you bother giving your number to a hacker? You think a hacker is going to keep his word on not trashing his account? The fact that you made him jump through hoops is just going to piss him off.

In this kind of situation, report to Anet asap. Don't have a long convo with him, don't try reasoning with him just report and hope Anet moves in fast enough to save his stuff.

Saph

Saph

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

R/

I'm sorry that happened, but did you really expect the hacker/scammer to keep his word?

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobo1 View Post
Why would you bother giving your number to a hacker? You think a hacker is going to keep his word on not trashing his account? The fact that you made him jump through hoops is just going to piss him off.

In this kind of situation, report to Anet asap. Don't have a long convo with him, don't try reasoning with him just report and hope Anet moves in fast enough to save his stuff.
Already done.

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor View Post
Already done.
I feel my orginal post seemed a little uncaring, I do feel bad that this had to happen to someone you know. I just know there is never any point in reasoning or bargaining with hackers, As they generally have no moral standards anyway.

Great Dwarf Weapon

Great Dwarf Weapon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2009

E/

Why'd you give him your # >.< that was really stupid.

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobo1 View Post
I feel my orginal post seemed a little uncaring, I do feel bad that this had to happen to someone you know. I just know there is never any point in reasoning or bargaining with hackers, As they generally have no moral standards anyway.
Yeah, but this is the first time I heard of this. Hold an account hostage for stuff, luckily I gave him a college teachers phone number that I swore revenge on. Sadly I did not know how to react.

subarucar

subarucar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

New Zealand

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor View Post
Edit: I gave him the number of a college teacher I swore revenge on. My paper was an A+ and she gave me a D+ for unclear thesis.
Edit 2: I might be royally screwed because my teacher knows I hate her... This could end good or REALLY bad.
How will they know you gave them your phone number? Anyway, I highly doubt they would bother calling your number anyway.

Sjeng

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

in my GH

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Hope the basterd gets hit by a train. God, I hate scammers and account thieves.

4thVariety

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

European Union

ADL

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You should have given him your real number. Once he calls, you got his number and even if he is suppressing it, you can ask the phone company to reveal it, since it was involved in a scam. (just try to avoid mentioning it was a scam in a computer game; say online scam).

From there it is all downhill for him in terms of who is pressuring whom.

As for your teacher, if she is worth two cents, the number she gives out in public is a phone disconnected half of the time anyway. Else it would ring all day and night pretty much all year round.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

The best thing to do in a situation like this is pretend you're afk and just file a report. Then it is one-sided.
That guy has a screw loose. Either it is someone who knows Elnore IRL and stole his password, or it is someone with no life who went through the trouble of hacking just for the sake of trolling. But to know the details means it must be a grudge. I'd be careful if I were you. He is trying to gather your private info, after all. And remember that if someone has evil intentions, they wouldn't be keeping deals and such in the first place. You shouldn't have tried to converse with him <_<

M @ T

M @ T

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

South of heaven

S E X Y Shinigami[SEXY]

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Well it's bad for the guy who lost all his items indeed, but what does terrorism have to do with this? You willingly gave a home number..

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Does..not..compute.. >.>

DoomFrost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Dude, don't even talk to them. A simple, "I don't talk to thiefs" would have been all that is needed after you realized your friends account was hijacked.

Last thing you want to give them is your attention. They don't deserve it.

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Riveting tale, old chap.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Does a phone number and/or address allow him to figure out your IP address, ISP or somesuch that he can use for a targeted attack? (the "diverting package traffic" he speaks of).

I can't think why he'd be so interested in phone numbers, unless that's what he needs to get his next victim.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

Some people have internet together with a phone connection. Login to such internet connection is often the telephone number. There might be a link between IP range and phone number as well. In such case I think antivirus software and firewalls do not help at all.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Do NOT goto the URL he specifies, regardless of browser or OS.

IronSheik

IronSheik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom]

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TL;DR

Shorter plox

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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Out of all the questions you asked him, I am amazed you didn't ask the most obvious.

"Why do you want my phone number?"

And if he wanted to talk to you, you could simply have asked for his and you would call him. Giving out a fake phone number was a nice idea, but even if it was a teacher you didn't like, the potential harm you would inflict on that person does not give you a reason to provide that number. If that teacher has some financial/legal difficulties due to this person, you should be included in any lawsuit filed against him. If you wanted to provide a fake phone number, I'd have looked up the State Police or whatever the largest legal body would be.

And you edited that horribly. You repeated a lot of things, you didn't edit out the website the guy sent you (not all of the displays of it), and you included your friends user name, and what appears to be his real life name (may be against forum rules, although he may have allowed you to show it).

Mokeiro

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Go to the police and courtyard and sue him.

He broke several laws:

Unwanted access to a password protected account, doesn's matter is a bank account or a game one.

Threat to damage goods.

Thread to real life people

Trying to access to personal information.

Go to the police, if a judge find it illegal anet must give the IP address where the guy connected, then you find it and sue him and get all his money.

Report to anet, but go to police and press charges agaisnt him, with some luck he will pass a time in jail and you get a good amount for damages.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokeiro View Post
Go to the police and courtyard and sue him.

He broke several laws:

Unwanted access to a password protected account, doesn's matter is a bank account or a game one.

Threat to damage goods.

Thread to real life people

Trying to access to personal information.

Go to the police, if a judge find it illegal anet must give the IP address where the guy connected, then you find it and sue him and get all his money.

Report to anet, but go to police and press charges agaisnt him, with some luck he will pass a time in jail and you get a good amount for damages.
You did not consider the fact that this person can be from a different country.

kupp

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

[KISS]

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I read the whole thing and think it's pretty stupid you actually gave him a phone number, even if it's not yours. For the fact that now you might be screwed by your teacher, like you said.

Still hope all those screenshots end up doing something... I can't even begin to tell you how those low-life RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs discust me. Hope his original account gets perma-banned especially by what he did to your friends account, and a train on the forhead would be awesome as well.

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Originally Posted by Shasgaliel View Post
You did not consider the fact that this person can be from a different country.
Dispite that, he did broke the law doesn't matter wich country he is. I'm pretty sure it will be illegal regardless of wherever he's from. Now, even if criminal charges are pressed I doubt anything will happen... It's simply that kind of stuff that I don't see anyone bothering about unfortunately.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood View Post
Do NOT goto the URL he specifies, regardless of browser or OS.
Was hoping you'd see this thread Car.

I hope your friend gets their account back before too many items are lost.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Your friend needs to contact support to get this resolved and we do not allow the posting of screenshots with IGN's. Also, I would highly discourage anyone from EVER giving out their phone number online or anyone else's.

Closed.