Deliberate Act of Sabotage

J I L T

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Sabotaging is funny sometimes my favorite thing to do is use feast of souls when there's a spirit spammer around.

carbajac

carbajac

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Medicine Cabinet [PILL]

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Necro's do it, Mesmers too, vamp weapons. You just grumble and move on.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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makes me think of the old uw days....when you were leary of the korean and chinese monks---the ones that would get you killed off with the aaxtles and then go on to the smites.....yep its been going on for quite some time now.

dr love

dr love

...is in denial

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

starcraft 2

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this whole thread reminds me of another point... why is there no dishonorable status in pve? there's just as many wack jobs (ragers, griefers, leechers) you can find in pve pugs as in pvp. i want these guys to be banned from pve until they have some time to cool down

refer

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

US

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Vengence is kind of amusing in AB. Saw that a few times. People are like, "What the heck just killed me?!" XD
It's never amusing, especially when you wait FOREVER to get in.

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I've also run into players that want to be paid to do something. Stupidity.
Greedy.

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Another thing I've run into a lot lately...leech city. PvP things, well report feature is all you've got. Either way, risk your own dishonor/ban for reporting someone for leeching. lol. Craziness.
I hate that attitude about being afraid to report. I cause shit storms and call every leecher out and it can work. Routintely I will get 3/4 or whatever is needed. Getting 5 though is very hard to do, I can usually get 3 people to report, but if 5 could it would prevent the person reported from getting real time faction which is even better. Oh and I'm NEVER hexed, so don't worry about that. The one time I got reported for spamming (which I don't give a damn about... I told them to kill ________ right now before the amber comes in, but everybody ignored him so I clicked his name over 100 times), it was only like 3 minutes hex! I am not kidding you!

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

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Originally Posted by dbulger View Post
this whole thread reminds me of another point... why is there no dishonorable status in pve? there's just as many wack jobs (ragers, griefers, leechers) you can find in pve pugs as in pvp. i want these guys to be banned from pve until they have some time to cool down
Because there are so many shitty players who are either just plain stupid or are trying to use "role play" builds, that the system just wouldn't work.

beaverlegions

beaverlegions

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Siege Turtles

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Just have the team report them for scamming.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

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Just have the team report them for scamming.
That's like trying to report a run 'scammer' for scamming. They aren't scamming, and ArenaNet won't care.

makosi

makosi

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Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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It all comes down to the fact there is no ostracism for those who grief in any aspect of the game. You have carte blanche to do whatever you feel and get away with it.

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

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It's never amusing, especially when you wait FOREVER to get in.
True, the wait times can be horrid. A friend actually brought it once. He thought it was helpful I think. I ended up being one of those people that was wondering what killed me.

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Greedy.
That too, yes.

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I hate that attitude about being afraid to report. I cause shit storms and call every leecher out and it can work. Routintely I will get 3/4 or whatever is needed. Getting 5 though is very hard to do, I can usually get 3 people to report, but if 5 could it would prevent the person reported from getting real time faction which is even better. Oh and I'm NEVER hexed, so don't worry about that. The one time I got reported for spamming (which I don't give a damn about... I told them to kill ________ right now before the amber comes in, but everybody ignored him so I clicked his name over 100 times), it was only like 3 minutes hex! I am kidding you!
Oh so do I. I was only saying it's crazy that you can report someone that's actually reportable, yet get a dishonor/ban yourself for doing so when you've done nothing. And yes, somehow preventing them from benefiting would be good...how that would be done is another matter.
lol

refer

refer

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Join Date: Jan 2009

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how that would be done is another matter.
lol
I just say that we still need 3 more to report, 2 more to report... when I get to 1 though, it's like people are afraid of crossing that line. Just have 5 people report one person. No faction for them, its' in the game.

Nuclfus

Nuclfus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Screw guilds.

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I actually do find the occasional sabotage funny, even if the joke's on me. People like that actually remind me that GW is just a game, and that I'll enjoy it much more if I play with a sense of humor. If you don't see it that way, then nobody's forcing you not to play with heroes, henchmen, or guildies.

The ability to ping your skill bar was meant to be a quick easy way for you to show your party what you're running, not a tool to police their builds and make them meet 'your standard'. I think it takes a pretty large ego to take control of everyone's game experience, and then get outraged at 'those griefers' who dare defy your will. I wouldn't be too surprised if that's what actually motivates them in the first place.

gone

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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It all comes down to the fact there is no ostracism for those who grief in any aspect of the game. You have carte blanche to do whatever you feel and get away with it.
didn't people cry about tonic sounds in an outpost? what happened there?

Master Ketsu

Master Ketsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

middle of nowhere

Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy]

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crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

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The only act of sabotage I see much of is when you get into ta and have the teams of 4 stance sins. They just hop around the map and run out the 10 minutes or whatever without dying, so you end in a draw game and get kicked back. It sucks when you've come from ra and are on your 14 or 15 win and hit one of these teams. They only do it to break people's win streaks.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

So like, we did the Zaishen Bounty today. This one guy wanted to cap the skill Mobrin was carrying, but he was dead when Mobrin died, and the rest of the team quickly left.

He asked me to leave too so he would auto-res and cap.

I slowly walked back to Gadd's encampment and stepped through, taking us both to the outpost

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
So like, we did the Zaishen Bounty today. This one guy wanted to cap the skill Mobrin was carrying, but he was dead when Mobrin died, and the rest of the team quickly left.

He asked me to leave too so he would auto-res and cap.

I slowly walked back to Gadd's encampment and stepped through, taking us both to the outpost
And why did you do that? To share it here on guru?

Yelling @ Cats

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

I've done it before.

Mostly when a group kicks my Assassin before a mission because "lolassassinsuck". Log onto another character, preferably a Monk, and run my assassin skillbar for lulz

eyekwah2

eyekwah2

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

Martyrs to the Flame

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I hate when it happens to me, but then I giggle like a little school girl when I read the stories here. I think the funny part comes in when you relate to the guy dead waiting to be ressed by a guy who is dancing on your corpse and wondering if this is truly happening... It's kind of like laughing at the guy who tried to dive into his pool off a ladder which happened to displace upon leaping. Very painful, yet there's some sick part of you that laughs inside.

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The Judas Priest build thing is just lame. I don't even think I'd find that funny if I did it myself. Sabotage has to be clever and inventive or it might as well not even be done.

Had a monk join our group once, who as it turns out, was a 55 monk. He kept dying and honestly couldn't understand why, as if the 55 monk were invincible. Everybody thought it was lame except me. I couldn't figure out if he was faking it or if he really thought that, but I imagine that I was the only one laughing the entire time.

Short

Short

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Join Date: Jun 2009

Protectors of Fate [GoF]

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OP, did you actually ask the monks to ping their bars? If not, I seriously doubt their goal was to sabotage whatever you were doing. There are still players out there that don't install the game and head straight to PvX, so it's possible that they thought heal area was decent!
Just thought I'd say that you're quite ignorant if you think anyone on PvX thinks Heal Area is good.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Earlier today we were going after the zaishen bounty. I joined a group, only to find there was another spirit spammer already in. Well, I ran a restoration build, and that was that. But I did notice that this person was a pushy asshole who tried to act as though she knew everything, even when she was clearly wrong, and thought that playing for four years made her a good player.

So, since I had Feast of Souls in my build, I made sure to kill off her spirits regularly.

We ended up in the same group for the zaishen mission, though running different builds, so I brought along Gaze of Fury for the same purpose.

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And why did you do that? To share it here on guru?
Because it's fun

It's part of the 4chan mentality.

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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Originally Posted by Deviant Angel View Post

OP, did you actually ask the monks to ping their bars? If not, I seriously doubt their goal was to sabotage whatever you were doing. There are still players out there that don't install the game and head straight to PvX, so it's possible that they thought heal area was decent!QUOTE]

Just thought I'd say that you're quite ignorant if you think anyone on PvX thinks Heal Area is good.
Hes not ignorant, you just have bad reading comprehension.

vaxmor

vaxmor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ascalon

R/

Deliberate Act(s) of Sabotage?

welcome to pugs.

Roupe

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Naming two kinds of types

One.. Leeches (either unfortunate or a restless passenger without a runner)

This type isn't doing his task due to a wanton desire to destroy the team
Its because
he doesnt have the "veteran" skills, or don't like adapting.
He could be inept, clueless, bad at tactics or just lacks the desire too perform the given task/challenge.

Melee leeches are usually gets away with this behavior, Since a Individual Melee character in general doesn't do by itself a huge impact in the battle. They need to run up & catch individual foes in order to attack.
It shouldn't be the end of the party if one warrior dies. which is why these melee leeches often isn't noticed.

Old prophesies days: farmer wannabe smiting monks, made a bad reputation for smiters.
Old faction days:assassins wannabe tanks, made a bad reputation for assassins.

"worst" :invited proclaimed Healing prayer monk casts Meteor & Meteor shower and complains about energy.

Two.. Avengers or Terrorist

Clueless or Pissed off player or Joker that preys on players. They actually go out to harm the party. Often quite intentional.
aggro a crowd and returns for healing (with aggro) to the back-lining healers.

shadowform assassin runs off compass and returns (during battle) with a huge ball of extra aggro.

Favorit: Not skipping the cut scene?:Necromancer Minion Master rage quits and turns its minions hostile upon the unsuspecting party. Was Common in early factions when cut scenes counted against the overall bonus timer. Also due the cut-scenes degened killed the undead minions .

"douchbag": Condition necro/ranger using Edge of Extinction, Frozen soil, Pestilence, Rotting Flesh and Virulence (elite)
Humanoid foes? Rotting flesh and summons Edge of Extinction.
Several party members dead? Summons Frozen soil. and recast it.

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Tell tell signs of a bad PVE party setup
Frequent Dying's and long-winded battles.

Indications of lousy tanks (aggro-holding)
Friendly softies (healers and casters) dying at aggro

Indications of lousy tanks (non aggro-holding)
Enemy healers unmolested
Battles taking to long

Indications of lousy healing
multiple Slow casting spells (1+ s), multiple similar effect spells (3+), party wiping from few non boss foes. Casting damage skills. Needed NPCs dying

Indications of a lousy damage dealer
Battles taking to long
Foes unmolested.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

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Because it's fun

It's part of the 4chan mentality.
I hoped there was some more story behind it but oh well reason as good as any other

One guy was constantly spamming me with pls help with NM here, there. Every primary quest was so hard he had to ask. So instead of running him (that how help usually looks like in early missions) I took my low level wammo. I was not stalked by him ever again.

Seems that acts of sabotage are often hmmm asked for?