best rune/insignia combo for dervish armor?

Desolation

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

gA

windwalker and?

Scythe O F Glory

Scythe O F Glory

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

New Jersey

League of Elite [LoE]

D/

Survivor, vitae/attunement, Superior vigor, and whatever your build calls for. Usually Scythe Mastery Head + Minor rune.

turbo234

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

WI

Mo/

survivor > windwalker
also, minor runes + a vigor(superior if you're able to afford it).
basically just +hp because more hp gives you a better chance to survive. if you're running around with 400hp monks might not be able to save you quick enough.

ac1inferno

ac1inferno

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Boston

We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]

A/W

PvE:
- Rune of Superior Vigor, Rune of Clarity, vitae runes.
- A Sundering, Vampiric, or Zealous Scythe of Fortitude/Enchanting, with a "Strength and Honor" inscription.
- Survivor, Blessed or Windwalker insignia.

PvP:
- Survivor's Insignia's with a Rune of Superior Vigor.
- A Sundering, Vampiric, or Zealous Scythe of Fortitude, with a "Strength and Honor" inscription.
- Defensive Shield and Spear sets.
- Enchanting set for important enchantments.

Catchphrase

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

Survivor > Blessed >= Windwalker
You would be spending most of the time in battle with 1-2 enchantments active on you so Blessed will be more sensible. Survivor is an all rounder. Windwalker is good only if you having monks maintaining enchantments on you in order for you to fully maximise the insignia's bonus.

Runes-wise, go for minor scythe mastery on head; sup vigor, attunement on chest and leggings; minor mysticism and minor wind prayers on the rest. I find very little use for earth prayers in PvE since my heroes and hench have little trouble in keeping me alive most of the time.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

For my standard (non-farming) armor, I use Major Scythe on a Scythe hood, Minor Mysticism, Major Vigor, and a mix of Survivor/Radiant/Vitae/Attunement for the rest. Gives me a final total of 550~ health (bumped up to 580-ish by my weapon) and 28 energy.

I used to use Windwalker, but it's not always a great choice. If your enchantments get stripped/shattered/etc, it's useless. Go with the extra health.

I haven't bothered with runes for Earth or Wind Prayers since I tend to swap back and forth between the two attributes a lot.

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Elemental scythe for warriors. Vamp/Zealous for everything else (do NOT take sundering under no condition if you value your genitals). Use 20% enchant weapon before enchants and weapon swap back to a +30/+5AL.

For the armor in their respectful order from left to right and top to bottom, I run Survivor/+2 Scythe, Windwalker/Vigor (windwalker on chest b/c chest gets hit WAY more), Survivor/+1 Mystism, Survivor/Clarity, and Survivor/Vitae.



~LeNa~

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Sup vigor in chest. Vitae in foot. Minor of each attr in other pieces - I normally stick mysticism in the head. Atleast this way I don't have to change armour sets for different builds, especially as I salvaged all of my other armours lolz.

Survivor Insignia in every piece.

reaper with no name

reaper with no name

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

FaZ

D/

Windwalker's insignias are usually significantly better than survivor's (armor > health) unless you don't have a lot of enchantments on you.

As for runes, it depends on your build.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Windwakers should be a no-brainer. Armor is better than health in general, and 20 AL is far better than 40 hp in specific. Between the enchants you have on your bar as a Dervish, and enchants your team should be tossing around (PS, SB, Aegis, Orders, etc.) you should never find yourself lacking for enchantments to proc it.

Celtus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

D/

play without armor, more fun

Desolation

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

gA

im trying out windwalker+vitae on everything except chest has sup vigor+survivor and head has scythe rune and gloves mysticism rune.


vitae good or what other runes to substitute for them

Coleture

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2009

Da Ville, IN.

I use windwalker on head, hands, legs, & feet. Radiant & Attunement on chest for more energy. What ever else your build needs. I personally don't think the superior vigor (+50 health) is worth the extra 16.9K for only +9 more health than the Major vigor (+41 health).

Darkside

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

D/

It depends on a lot of factors. I tend to switch armor depending on my build and/or the monsters in that particular area. General purpose I say Survivors are the best bet. Windwalkers are great if your running with an enchantment heavy build and/or party but you have to be weary of enchantment removal which makes them useless where as survivor is never useless its always there as extra red. Radiant and attunment runes are also useful but don't go overboard use an e-management skill.

Swahnee

Swahnee

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Italy

Mo/

I would choose blessed or windwalker over survivor. I'm not so much scared about enchantment stripping because imho the AL bonus is needed only when you are attacked and you are in danger, it's useless when nobody attacks you, so you should worry about enchantments only when you are hit.

In PvE there's a lot of enchantments flying around in battle (aegis, prot spirit, soa, sh, rof etc), and if you take some damage your heroes or enchies will always cast something on you, so even if your regular dervish enchantments get stripped, you will surely receive some other enchantments when you need them.

I would say that windwalker > blessed in general. The only thing that would make me choose blessed over windwalker is their lower cost, but if you can afford windwalker, go for them because, as i said above, when you are in danger you often receive some protection from monks, so imho it's easy to reach 3-4 enchantments when you need them, and this means +15-20 AL instead of +10 of blessed.

For PvP i quote ac1inferno: choose survivor because there you will receive focused armor-ignoring damage, while in PvE monsters deal mostly physical and elemental damage (reduced by armor). In the end, however, the difference between having +HP or +AL in terms of general survivability (hope the spelling is correct ) isn't so high, so you can safely choose which one you prefer.

bitchbar player

bitchbar player

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

still lost

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

Mo/

I have to disagree, in PvP +armor is always the best you can get (ever wonder why every monk runs disciples?) So even on your scythe go for +5 armor instead of +30 hp, also bring a +7 vs physical, +7 vs elemental and ofc a +30 if you face bloodspike. And dont forget a spear + shield set.

Swahnee

Swahnee

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Italy

Mo/

I agree with the use of +armor on weapons' mods in PvE, but on the PvP part i've seen a lot of different thoughts, there's a really strong debate on armor vs health and nobody by now has brought really strong arguments for one idea or the other. For example: what's your arguments on the use of +armor also in PvP?

I've made my own calculations, and i found that in PvE, for the really high damage (mostly physical and elemental) dealt by monster, armor is often better, but in PvP the thing is different, there's more armor-ignoring damage, and i can't really tell which of the two (HP or AL) is better. I have run myself monk with disciples and survivor, but probably i haven't sufficient experience to choose one of them.

Franksalot

Franksalot

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

CROW

D/

well i always run wind walkers then i have a +1+1 for every attribute head pieces as well as a +1+3 head piece for every attribute. Sup vigor on chest, +1 earth, + 1 scythe and another +1 wind hand pieces to switch around. Viate on legs then 3 feet, +1 earth + 1 wind and + 1 mysticism to switch around.

NerfHerder

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

As a general rule of thumb for all my characters I put a Major Rune of Primary Attribute(Mysticism), 2 runes of Vitae , a Superior Vigor, and make different headpieces for the rest of my attributes with Major runes. I do this for ease of changing builds w/o changing armor. As for my Dervish, most of the time I have my Scythe headpiece on. I dont really need the extra +1 when specing into wind or earth.

Thats the generic way I set up all my toons then change according to specific build needs.

As for windwalkers vs blessed in PvE, I use blessed because of all the enchantment stripping and natural enchantment juggling associated with a Dervish. I think it adapts better to different teams and builds. Its a personal choice. Windwalker does provide twice the protection with 4 enchantments, but either way I dont think its going to make or break you. If your using Orders and/or know you will have monks that will spam enchantments, then windwalkers is preferable.

Regardless, take what you like best from these posts and have some fun out there!