moriz's video dump

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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http://www.youtube.com/user/aliasmoriz

currently, it's just a loose collection of gameplay footages of me playing alliance battles. i'm slowly moving into audio commentating, as well as put in a few tutorials about general pvp gameplay. this is because i feel the biggest barrier of entry for a player into pvp, other than the teamplay and social aspects, is sheer mechanics. a player with no experience in pvp simply does not have the mechanical execution needed to play at any decent level. i hope to solve this problem.

unfortunately, my first attempt at commentating showed just how "asian" i sound. i never realized that i had such a noticeable accent. i guess it's true that people can't notice their own accents unless they listen to themselves. i'm definitely going to try again... after i brush up on my language skills. ugh.

until then, i'll continue to post uncommentated videos at a semi regular basis. stay tuned.

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

I think the biggest barrier for players wanting to get into pvp are the other pvp players

iTzF3aR

iTzF3aR

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

Blackwood Knights [BWK] Graveyard guild, RIP Guild Wars.

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If you REALLY want to try to break that barrier you should at least use vent and call strategies on there. Why ? Well besides the fact ANY VoIP is needed for higher forms of PvP the PvErs who will really want to learn what they might expect in TA/HA/GvG.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

I will say one thing you are a mouse clicking machine when it comes to moving Not that there’s anything wrong with it. Thanks for the links since I have only alliance battled 4 times since the game was released I really have no idea what is going on... yet

Just happy I am not one of the video epic fail guys because I probably deserve it at this point.

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

I still can't understand the trend of making videos of doing pve clicking the ground furiously everywhere when it's only necessary in certain situations. Just can't.

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowerpoke View Post
I think the biggest barrier for players wanting to get into pvp are the other pvp players
The lack there of...

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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Thumbs up, I'm subscribed to your channel!

I love what you did, kudos. Potentially one of game changing experience for me if I find the time to use it fully.

Many, many thanks. Just know that some people are grateful.

persuadu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

DTH

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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowerpoke View Post
I think the biggest barrier for players wanting to get into pvp are the other pvp players
The problem with PvP is its full of PvPers!

I get it! I really do! If you are going to go play pvp, you want the best people on your team. What are the best ways to determine that? PvP ranks are typically but not always a good indicator. PvE ranks not so helpful. I can understand why people are so picky about that, especially when you are pugging someone and even more so when you are pugging a non-monk position.

I have spent hours trying to get picked up in HA with no result, and it was so frustrating. The solution is to get in with some people who do HA and get to know them. Join a PvP guild and get some training/experience/rank. Its like trying to get a job without a resume or knowing anyone. Your rank is your resume. If you dont have the resume, you need to make some friends who will bring you in.

It sucks, and it is frustrating, but nobody "owes" you a slot in their team. If you have to, work on your RA title a bit or just get into a PvP guild. I am in a PVX guild and they don't even let me into their HA or GvG unless there is a slot open because one of the R6+ guys is missing. That is your chance to prove to them what you have or learn what you need to be better, and get some rank.

If you can find someone who is willing to teach, make them your best friend. At the very least you will get picked up with them for some matches.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Painbringer View Post
I will say one thing you are a mouse clicking machine when it comes to moving Not that there’s anything wrong with it. Thanks for the links since I have only alliance battled 4 times since the game was released I really have no idea what is going on... yet

Just happy I am not one of the video epic fail guys because I probably deserve it at this point.
honestly, i don't even notice that i'm clicking on the ground madly when i play. i've played this game so much that it is all subconscious. in fact, i don't even consciously decide which direction to go, and then click there. i just determine a path and my fingers automatically direct my character there. it's kinda creepy.

and anyways, my clicking speed is actually quite tame compared to some of the players out there. have you ever seen chiizu play? he had ventrilo going on voice activation, and it recorded his mouseclicks. it's basically constant. clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick through the entire match.

TrishaS

TrishaS

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

Australia

So this is pvp, it is player vs player right? Thank you for posting these video's, if I get into the game and decide to try and battle other players, nice to see how other people do it rather than joining in and not having a clue and having people yell at you.

subarucar

subarucar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

New Zealand

None

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Originally Posted by TrishaS View Post
So this is pvp, it is player vs player right? Thank you for posting these video's, if I get into the game and decide to try and battle other players, nice to see how other people do it rather than joining in and not having a clue and having people yell at you.
These are Alliance Battles, one of the lower forms of PvP. The map has many shrines with NPC's guarding them. The main objective is to run around and capture these shrines, so it becomes more like PvE rather than PvP.

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

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I just watched your first vid Epicfailing in AB and I really didn't get it. Is it supposed to be funny, are you trying to teach others what not to do? Because putting a little bubble next to everything and saying LOL EPIC FAILZ doesn't really help much.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by subarucar View Post
These are Alliance Battles, one of the lower forms of PvP. The map has many shrines with NPC's guarding them. The main objective is to run around and capture these shrines, so it becomes more like PvE rather than PvP.
with your logic, gvg must be pve also, since the ultimate objective is to kill the opposing guild lord, who happens to be an npc.

no. just like gvg, AB is a pvp arena simply because you'll need to deal with the other teams. it is also like gvg in that the winning condition is something other than just kill the other guys.

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I just watched your first vid Epicfailing in AB and I really didn't get it. Is it supposed to be funny, are you trying to teach others what not to do? Because putting a little bubble next to everything and saying LOL EPIC FAILZ doesn't really help much.
it's supposed to be a joke. why those players (including myself, btw) epicfailed should be pretty obvious.

Foe

Foe

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

ive been looking for vids of top tier ab players, thx for this

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

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Ahoy, me ol' shipmate - I be a touch confused.

Be ye a Canadian livin' in Beijing, or a Beijinger livin' in Canadia?

I swear I be hearin yer voice once on the Vent and I'll be damned if you sounded Asian...

Mighty fine videomajigs, there - arr.

subarucar

subarucar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

New Zealand

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by moriz View Post
with your logic, gvg must be pve also, since the ultimate objective is to kill the opposing guild lord, who happens to be an npc.

no. just like gvg, AB is a pvp arena simply because you'll need to deal with the other teams. it is also like gvg in that the winning condition is something other than just kill the other guys.



it's supposed to be a joke. why those players (including myself, btw) epicfailed should be pretty obvious.
My point was that in AB you spent more time fighting NPC's than you do other players (at least in my experiences). This make it more like PvE that PvP.
The Keyword being "Like" (In both posts). It is still PvP, but it is more like PvE.

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by moriz View Post

it's supposed to be a joke. why those players (including myself, btw) epicfailed should be pretty obvious.
It's like going into RA and pointing out all the bad moves and skills people use. Why bother? I'm going to assume not all your videos are like this though, so it's all good.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobo1 View Post
It's like going into RA and pointing out all the bad moves and skills people use. Why bother? I'm going to assume not all your videos are like this though, so it's all good.
It's one video out of the 7 or 8 he's posted.

QueenofDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2009

Quote:
a player with no experience in pvp simply does not have the mechanical execution needed to play at any decent level
lol what a crock of bull that is. I set my 10 year old nephew down to this game who had never played before and he stomped the other players in a pvp match. Alliance battle at that. You don't have to be skilled at anything in this game except how to press a damn button when it comes to AB, FA, JQ or RA. Anybody who has never played ever can play a sin and never have played GW before. Just press 1 2 3..1 2 3....1 2 3....rez sig. lol

The only skilled area left in this game is GvG and I'm beginning to wonder about that anymore.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt View Post
Ahoy, me ol' shipmate - I be a touch confused.

Be ye a Canadian livin' in Beijing, or a Beijinger livin' in Canadia?

I swear I be hearin yer voice once on the Vent and I'll be damned if you sounded Asian...

Mighty fine videomajigs, there - arr.
chinese dude living in canada.

and yeah, most people who had heard my voice on vent said that i sounded like a black dude. go figure.

deviated

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2009

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by subarucar View Post
My point was that in AB you spent more time fighting NPC's than you do other players
you're doing it wrong

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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Game is about territory control.

1/2 is territory gain, which means you are killing NPC's

the other 1/2 is about defending the territory you have, which is about killing players

It is amazing how many people completely ignore half of the game.

QueenofDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2009

The biggest problem with AB is it's too much capping centric. You have the mob of one side just running around behind the mob of the other side capping and recapping and nobody breaking off to double cap or triple cap. I wish they would have at least one map that is combat only. Team with the most kills wins or just one shrine with the king of the hill type play like Myth had. That was my favorite. The one that held the hill the longest won. Some great battles in the Myth game with King of the Hill arena. AB is probably my least favorite though has the most players which I like.

Darth The Xx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Sen'jin Village

The Infamous Cake Bandits [cake]

Mo/W

Its pretty obvious people who call AB PvE have never done it for any good length of time, while it obviously isn't at the level of GvG, it really is an unfair comparison as the objectives, builds and tactics are pretty different from GvG or HA or whatever.

besides if all you do is kill NPCs you are doing something very wrong

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dr reverend
Game is about territory control.

1/2 is territory gain, which means you are killing NPC's

the other 1/2 is about defending the territory you have, which is about killing players
this would be true if points were only obtained through territory control; however points are also gained through scoring kills, so i would put a slight emphasis on the importance of "territory defense", as you call it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dr reverend
It is amazing how many people completely ignore half of the game.
the general consensus for strategy in ab is to "avoid enemy confrontation"--not because it is more effective, but simply because its easier to do.

Quote:
Originally Posted by queenofdeath
just one shrine with the king of the hill type play
king of the hill would be interesting for the neutral map saltspray. i also think territorial control without npcs would be also interesting, though both might be prone to overly defensive builds. capzones would of course have to increase in size as to avoid purely aoe builds.


btw, sowrie for the thread hijack lol
to op: i would recommend introductions which include build set-ups. also since ab is a team game (omg it is?), i would also recommend going through the team setup. i've seen the sin vids before, and tbh look like you just went randomway.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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just an update: the first commentated video is done. i'm encoding it as we speak, and it should show up on youtube later tonight. i still sound weird though, but there's nothing i can do about it.

this is one of those times where i wish i have a quadcore CPU instead of a dual core... video encoding on a budget class dual core is painfully slow, even if it is overclocked by a healthy amount.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by moriz View Post
video encoding is painfully slow
It doesn't matter how many cores you have, this is the truth.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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video encoding does get faster (as in, noticeably faster) with additional cores. i turned on multithreading in virtualdub and the encoding framerates almost doubled.

anyways, the video is up. view them in my channel, it's the latest two:
http://www.youtube.com/user/aliasmoriz

the focus of this video is more on the general strategies i used in an earlier video of my warrior. there isn't much said about the mechanical execution aspects, purely because there wasn't any time (and i played quite badly anyways, so there's nothing much to see in that regard).

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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moar shameless bumpage:

my map analysis of ancestral lands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohfqhi3TWP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1yHFKVBGCY

hopefully you'll find this informative.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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if anyone is willing to take me into a gvg match and allow me to record, then i'll post them (HINT HINT!!!). i don't have time to commit full time into a gvg guild at the moment, unfortunately.