WHY are Greens worth nothing?

I Kakasan I

I Kakasan I

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2009

AoF

D/Mo

I've been told that most "green" items are worthless in terms of price (5k-7k)

Can I ask why this is?

lateralus11235

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2009

Affliction of Embers [AoE]

A/E

because a lot of them are so incredibly easy to farm, and also you can't modify or dye green items

MarkusParkus

MarkusParkus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2008

Plymouth, Uk

[TPoN]

A/P

Simple Answer...
Greens Are So Easily Farmed Theyre Value Is....Nothing Special Lol.
Even End-Game Reward Greens Are Worth Diddly Squat As So Many Chars Have Completed The Chapters.

Hope It Helps.
Markus

SpiritSpammer

SpiritSpammer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

Rt/

Personally purple does the job too. as long as i can mod it an its r9 max dmg. ill buy it. gold just makes you feel good i guess. and greens just too easy to get for it to be worth anything

notskorn

notskorn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Clan Roxor

W/E

They are easy to farm and people have lots of them since the game is almost 5 years old

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

1. They can't be modded
2. Many of them have undesirable stats
3. Some of them have great stats, but ugly skins
4. With the advent of inscriptions, it's very easy to find a weapon with a skin you like and mod it to the stats you want.
5. Greens may be "unique" but there are so many different ones, there's nothing special about them - not like back when Sorrow's Furnace was the only place to get them.

Yang Whirlwind

Yang Whirlwind

~ Retired ~

Join Date: Nov 2005

Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1)

E/

I think the reasons have pretty much been listed, only thing I might add is that they cannot be dyed either,- which to some is a severe limitation.

Fate Crusher

Fate Crusher

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pie-land

Warlords Of The Underworld [WoTU]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
4. With the advent of inscriptions, it's very easy to find a weapon with a skin you like and mod it to the stats you want.
^
This.

Nightfall ultimately spelled the end of Green weapons. Yes, weapons were modifiable but Greens were more valuable because of their perfect inherent modifications (+15% above 50% health etc).

Even worse for shields that were so rare to get double mods, that green shields were quite sought after.

But after a while, as many have said, even if the inscriptions were never made available, the simple fact that the greens were so easily farmed, many Green weapons flooded the market that they were so common place (the Bludgeoner for example quickly dropped to 2/5k within 5 months of Sorrows Furnace opening).

Therefore nowadays, with such a saturated market of "perfect" weapons that cost next to nothing, people can easily afford to buy a skin that they prefer and purchase their own mods and create their own weapons specifically to their needs, for example, Galigord's Stone Staff and Rago's Flame Staff are probably the only usable green staves available.

Tenebrae

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
1. They can't be modded
2. Many of them have undesirable stats
3. Some of them have great stats, but ugly skins
4. With the advent of inscriptions, it's very easy to find a weapon with a skin you like and mod it to the stats you want.
5. Greens may be "unique" but there are so many different ones, there's nothing special about them - not like back when Sorrow's Furnace was the only place to get them.
All those reasons above plus
6. If the price of the skin that the green items goes low , that green will go even lower price.

Nowadays only great skin greens go for more than 20k , like those bows with silverwing skin or spear of the hierophant ( voltaic ) , and if anet decides to make them drop on reg chests for example , that price would drop drastically. Example ? Stygian Reaver skin and Murakai ( farming + Zchest drop

Great Dwarf Weapon

Great Dwarf Weapon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2009

E/

because there overfarmed and easy to get and most of em have ugly skins.

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

If you can sell a green for 5K you should be happy, most of them are worthless.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

7. With the BMP, you can get any r9 base item you want
8. With the end-game trade-ins you can also get anything you want

Konker2020

Konker2020

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

Exiled Forcez [Ex]

As others have said,

1: Cannot Mod
2: Cannot Dye
3: Most have crap mods
4: Some have decent mods and crap skin
5: It's really a question of rarity (Once you have done everything in the game and require nothing, yet have a fair amount built up, this will matter to you)

The Arching Healer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Super Kaon Action Team [SuKa]

Because Supply > Demand

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

I loves me greens anyway - got two mules-full, arrr! ^_^

I be currently farmin' TotPK with a spirit-spammer, 6 or 7 greens per run. A prized booty indeed, but still no Victo's Axe, Victo's Bluwark or Ogre-Slaying Knife, damn their eyes.

It be me aim to grab me one of every green in the game before I goes to Davey Jones' Locker - t'will be a fair old grind indeed, yarr.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Arching Healer View Post
Because Supply > Demand
Yup.

When ToPK started with greens they were selling for 100+e, within 2 weeks due to the immense amount of farming prices dropped like a rock. I've sold Victo's Bulwark within seconds once for 100K+15e, now, maybe a few K if you are lucky?

Greens are great for heroes and some are quite decent stat wise but its simply too easy to get them and the market gets flooded hence the prices drop.

Wynthyst

Wynthyst

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006

Gems of Destiny

D/

After 4+ years there are just too many in the game for them to hold much worth, but I still regularly sell them on the auction for 5k.

They make great hero weapons.

Wynthyst

Wynthyst

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006

Gems of Destiny

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt View Post
I loves me greens anyway - got two mules-full, arrr! ^_^

I be currently farmin' TotPK with a spirit-spammer, 6 or 7 greens per run. A prized booty indeed, but still no Victo's Axe, Victo's Bluwark or Ogre-Slaying Knife, damn their eyes.
I have a Victo's Axe you can have Snoggy

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

bow of the kinslayer still goes for 100k+e

although it takes ~1:15h to get to the chest with a small drop chance lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt View Post
I loves me greens anyway - got two mules-full, arrr! ^_^

I be currently farmin' TotPK with a spirit-spammer, 6 or 7 greens per run. A prized booty indeed, but still no Victo's Axe, Victo's Bluwark or Ogre-Slaying Knife, damn their eyes.

It be me aim to grab me one of every green in the game before I goes to Davey Jones' Locker - t'will be a fair old grind indeed, yarr.
I want an Ogre Slaying Knife aswell actually...even though they are completely useless except for nostalgia sake

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

Thank'ee, Wyn - but t'wouldn't be the same if I were to be given one. 'Tis the winning that's the thing, arrr?

Ogre-Slayin' Knife, aye; about as good as a butter spreader, but who wouldn't be itchin' to be sayin' "I be attackin The Darrrrrkness - with me knife that be +3 against Ogres"?

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt View Post
Thank'ee, Wyn - but t'wouldn't be the same if I were to be given one. 'Tis the winning that's the thing, arrr?

Ogre-Slayin' Knife, aye; about as good as a butter spreader, but who wouldn't be itchin' to be sayin' "I be attackin The Darrrrrkness - with me knife that be +3 against Ogres"?
think it would be more HARDCORE RAWR style to attack mallyx with an ogre slaying knife that would be pretty immense - especially calling it "i am wielding an orge slaying knife" watch the QQ from your teammates :P

I might have to go back to ToPK to get me one of those knives :P

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

It's gotten so bad, just yesterday I merched 2 Magekillers and 2 Muraki's Blades (for 35g each) just to get them out of my storage. And I still have 2 of each left (1 to keep, and another to sell.)

Wynthyst

Wynthyst

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006

Gems of Destiny

D/

lol Quaker, the CoF greens I generally take to Ascalon and gift to some deserving level 5

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Most of those level 5's are just guys like us running their umpteenth character through.

(But that is a good idea.)

Winston

Winston

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Melbourne, Australia

Ogre-Slaying Knife, ftw.

"I am Wielding a Ogre-Slaying Knife and a Gingerbread Shield"

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynthyst View Post
lol Quaker, the CoF greens I generally take to Ascalon and gift to some deserving level 5
Done that too, you get some incredulous responses especially when you give them to real newbies "i can have this? for free? you serious??"

Its nice to do something nice

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

^Absolutely - although I prefer doing it somewhere where the low-levels are more likely to be real newbies, like Yak's Bend for example.

im no farmer

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

As everyone pointed out,too easy.
So greens are primarily used for heroes or players who have started recently.
All my necro MMs are equipt with Ghials staffs

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt View Post
^Absolutely - although I prefer doing it somewhere where the low-levels are more likely to be real newbies, like Yak's Bend for example.
Actually though, that is one of the problems with GW (and other games that have been around for years). There are too many veteran players around giving too much stuff away.
Remember back when you were a newbie and how exciting it was to get a better weapon as a drop or out of a chest? Remember the struggle to earn enough gold and salvage enough materials to get better armor and how you felt like you accomplished something?
All that excitement, feelings of accomplishment, and fun is lost when someone just gives you everything you need.

For example, a few months back I played WoW for a while. When I started, some clan-mates gave me about 15 gold (which is like 15p in GW) and crafted me a set of large bags. Then they ran me through some instances so I could fill the bags.
It was all very nice and generous of them, but it kinda took away a lot of the fun.

That is why I'm looking for something totally new to play, like GW2 or Star Trek Online, or w/e.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

hmm I must be unlucky though since the greens I was after never got below 10k. Examples: Kaolin Accursed Staff or Incetols Focus. Last one I got offers of 40k when I finally found it even though I had a WTB and not WTS thread.

Not all greens can be reproduced. Those greens will be higher in price. Incetols focus being again an example.

Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lateralus11235 View Post
because a lot of them are so incredibly easy to farm, and also you can't modify or dye green items
^This

Also the fact, people want rare skinned items for their ego, they would rather have a req9 caster modded e-blade than razajans ferver, for the reason the eblade is rarer.

Would you rather have a Vauxhall or a Lamborghini? - Is the same thing here.

Silicon Based

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

a Few Good Men

For all reasons mentioned above it is therefore best to equip your heros with the greens you get instead of trying to sell them

Rekliss

Rekliss

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2009

[SMF]

Well i guess the most expensive green is the Bow of the Hierophant - 50e green; so technically they aren't ALL worthless

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Really, really bad mods.

Almost all of the martial weapons are 20/20, 15^50, +30hp. Awful.

While there's more variety in caster weapons, most of them fall just as far away from ideal mods as the martial weapons.

Shields do better, mainly do to the extremely limited mod pool.