Necessity of Farming/Money
CH33Z3
Guild Wars is my first MMO, and I am still new to it. My question is, why do people "farm" all day instead of just playing for fun? I just don't understand what you could need all that money for. Right now I am a level 16 on my first character and I have enough money and supplies to get 70 armor. Now, I know that weapons cost a lot at higher levels, but I just can't see how you could justify farming all day instead of playing. Thanks for any insight.
Kattar
People farm to buy weapon skins that are more desirable/rare. Or for armor that cost more.
You should note: the stats on these items are not what people farm for. It's all a looks thing.
You should note: the stats on these items are not what people farm for. It's all a looks thing.
steel singer
Well, a lot of people don't find farming THAT boring. Most enjoy the challenge to do it better and faster.
But ofcourse if you only farm all day long, then yes it will be boring even to them. And the ones farming all day just enjoy getting the most expensive weapons..
But ofcourse if you only farm all day long, then yes it will be boring even to them. And the ones farming all day just enjoy getting the most expensive weapons..
CH33Z3
Ohh ok. So people do it to get "prestige" armor, even though it is no better than the other 70 armor? Or something along those lines.
Which leads me to my next question, what do you do after you've reached level 20 and done all the missions? Is that when farming becomes more of something to do, than for the money?
Thanks for the responses so far.
Which leads me to my next question, what do you do after you've reached level 20 and done all the missions? Is that when farming becomes more of something to do, than for the money?
Thanks for the responses so far.
Kattar
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CH33Z3
Oh ok, I think I understand it now. Thanks for such speedy and helpful responses.
X-Plosiv
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Ohh ok. So people do it to get "prestige" armor, even though it is no better than the other 70 armor? Or something along those lines.
Which leads me to my next question, what do you do after you've reached level 20 and done all the missions? Is that when farming becomes more of something to do, than for the money? Thanks for the responses so far. |
1. Do bonuses on all missions.
2. Do hard mode all missions.
3. Play game and do quests, enjoy, find new places.
4. Play with guild - im in guild that mostly farm and trust me, tho i find some areas funny to farm, im mostly solo or with friends from previous guilds doing something hard mode or normal mode.
Difference between armor that cost 500 000k and 15 000k is just look. Like weapons. Some people like to buy weapons and pay a lot just because of the look. While some spend more on items because of their attributes (requirement 7 or 8 instead of 9) so they can adept it to builds.
I find farming amusement just some areas (like MNTS in uw etc.) because it`s fun to try to do your best work, though I would not have problem if some of most popular farms get nerfed. I do most so I could get some things I wanted (bought enough alcohol to maximize my alcohol title from start to end [yeah, i got serious problems with booze
]) such as armour and weapon. Now I have acquire that, and I mostly don`t farm anymore, only with guildies or people i know so its more fun 
My advice, if you find pve guild where you feel welcome, you will enjoy one of best moments of this game
welcome to the gw, if you need help everywhere hit me in game
Arduin
For people who have completed all story lines with multiple characters, and aren't interested in PvP, the only thing left is farming for titles, farming for money, or find something else that is enjoyable.
AlsPals
Personally, I just like having lots of money. Its not even about flaunting, its just knowing when there is something I want, I have the option to buy. On that note, there are alot of difficult to acquire items that mean your better off farming for the money to buy one than farming for that item itself.
jray14
As has often been stated, getting to level 20 is really just a tutorial. There's so much to do after that: hard mode, equipping heroes, experimenting with different builds, challenge missions, elite areas, guild activities, etc. You're right, you can get all the max weapons and armor simply by playing through the game. Most of the money is just spent on statistically-equivalent prestige versions of stuff and mini-pets.
There are also certain hobbies and play-styles that you do need money for. For example, I like to try all the dungeons in hard mode with only heroes and henchmen. For that to even be possible (at least for me, since I don't enjoy gimmick solo builds), I need to buy a steady supply of "death penalty removal" items. I also like to buy lots of lockpicks to open all the chests and lots of perfect salvage kits to move the mods around on my weapons. I like playing Barbie with my heroes too, getting them all good weapons and armor components.
When I get lucky and find a sought-after weapon or other item, sometimes I keep it if I'm in the mood, and otherwise I sell it. Over time I've just found the right balance of keeping and selling so that I break even.
If you spend much time on these forums, you'll see plenty of posts about how "it's all about farming" or "it's all about running." Baloney... I do neither of those things and have a great time, and I even get plenty of prestige weapons for myself to boot.
Have fun!
There are also certain hobbies and play-styles that you do need money for. For example, I like to try all the dungeons in hard mode with only heroes and henchmen. For that to even be possible (at least for me, since I don't enjoy gimmick solo builds), I need to buy a steady supply of "death penalty removal" items. I also like to buy lots of lockpicks to open all the chests and lots of perfect salvage kits to move the mods around on my weapons. I like playing Barbie with my heroes too, getting them all good weapons and armor components.
When I get lucky and find a sought-after weapon or other item, sometimes I keep it if I'm in the mood, and otherwise I sell it. Over time I've just found the right balance of keeping and selling so that I break even.
If you spend much time on these forums, you'll see plenty of posts about how "it's all about farming" or "it's all about running." Baloney... I do neither of those things and have a great time, and I even get plenty of prestige weapons for myself to boot
.Have fun!
MagmaRed
1) There is something specific you want, and need money to get it
2) There is something specific you want, and farming is the best option to get it
3) You don't PvP and have nothing else to do
4) Your goal isn't to play the game, but to have more money than other people
Not sure what else people would use as a reason to farm, but those are the ones I know of. I only farm for specific things like the items for Nicholas or materials for armor/cons. As you noted, you don't need much money, and playing normally will get you what you need. After that, it is simply a matter of personal preferences on things like looks or titles. Even titles require no farming if you know how to max them through playing the game.
I still haven't figured out why people feel a need to farm 80% of the time they play. And I do know people who are like that. Asking them about it gets me no answers, so I stopped asking.
2) There is something specific you want, and farming is the best option to get it
3) You don't PvP and have nothing else to do
4) Your goal isn't to play the game, but to have more money than other people
Not sure what else people would use as a reason to farm, but those are the ones I know of. I only farm for specific things like the items for Nicholas or materials for armor/cons. As you noted, you don't need much money, and playing normally will get you what you need. After that, it is simply a matter of personal preferences on things like looks or titles. Even titles require no farming if you know how to max them through playing the game.
I still haven't figured out why people feel a need to farm 80% of the time they play. And I do know people who are like that. Asking them about it gets me no answers, so I stopped asking.
Swahnee
I farmed until i was interested in titles, then i got bored and stopped. Now i'm learning PvP, and i farm only to get the occasional armor or collector weapon for my PvE chars.
careyt
I just wanted to comment that it's nice having a new player who realizes that having a 100k sword doesn't make you a better player...
Cuilan
You can easily make enough gold and have fancy things just by playing. Only difference is with farming you can get more faster. It isn't needed, but some people prefer farming over quests they've never done, helping others, chatting, vanquishing, trying out new builds, and other neat things.
Kenzo Skunk
I farm because i`ve done everything that was to be done. Only fun thing left to do.
Shadowhaze
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For people who have completed all story lines with multiple characters, and aren't interested in PvP, the only thing left is farming for titles, farming for money, or find something else that is enjoyable.
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gw_poster
people farm for various reasons - and I think there is an evolution to farming that just occurs first out of necessity, then exploration of interest, then for material gain to acquire "unnecessary" costly items (or indirectly to doing so, such as farming feathers to make backups to sell for money to buy said costly items, etc.), culminating in farming out of boredom. Eventually, if you are have the addict-prone behavior type, you will farm just because there is nothing else to do. This is based on my own experience. After attaining GWAMM (r6 titles - 30+ maxed titles), filling my Hall of Monuments (HoM), buying the "leet" weapons I wanted, and obtaining FOW armor and all the other elite sets I wanted, it comes back to just farming for the fun of playing. I thought I could quit after achieving all the goals I set for myself once I realized what they were, I'm finding it hard to quit this god-forsaken game, lol. So now, I create new toons to relive the starting fresh experience and get them to the level necessary to try new farms, latest one being my rit. I guess my main advice to you as a new player would be to stay mindful of the time spent playing this game and just keep it at a level of fun only - when it starts to become a grind to you, don't fall into the trap of trying attain that next level, this game will take over your life if you let it
Now then, I'm off to see my therapist ftl
(j/k, but maybe soon lol)
Now then, I'm off to see my therapist ftl
(j/k, but maybe soon lol)
Swahnee
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I guess my main advice to you as a new player would be to stay mindful of the time spent playing this game and just keep it at a level of fun only - when it starts to become a grind to you, don't fall into the trap of trying attain that next level, this game will take over your life if you let it
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Red Apple
The word farmin could also refer to title farming, which in some cases is just for HoM. As said farming is for getting fancy looking stuff, not actually worthy(as in power).
BrettM
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Even titles require no farming if you know how to max them through playing the game.
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Will the same technique also give me 10k party points, or the cash to buy them, at the same time? While also giving me the cash and mats to get five sets of elite armor and a full set of Destroyer weapons?
Even assuming GW2 won't be released for another two full years, is it really possible to accomplish all this with no farming whatsoever? Is the method practical for people who are unwilling to give up gainful employment and do nothing but play GW 10 hours per day?
sosycpsycho
Actually on top of the reasons mentioned I farm for the thrill, sometimes I go into an area and try to figure out a way to solo a monster in HM just for kicks. I just like to solo things.
I have been through all chapters on 14 chars and ran out of stuff to buy it's honestly not about money or anything like that. You reach a point where pvp, elite dungeons and farming is all that's left to do. I don't say that in a cynical manner I enjoy farming.
I have been through all chapters on 14 chars and ran out of stuff to buy it's honestly not about money or anything like that. You reach a point where pvp, elite dungeons and farming is all that's left to do. I don't say that in a cynical manner I enjoy farming.
prey monkie
ehm the first 800 hours i played pve only, i dunno why, i just played all characters never had more than 100k, i quited GW, when eotn came out, i started playing again, bought finally all chapters. found pve really boring, hero's made it boring, started to pvp, that was fun, but i also met some good farmers. started hanging around them learned things, got my first stack of ecto's, after u get ur first. u want MORE, i guess people farm because of that:P the more the better. o and its pretty cool if people gaze u for having an expensive minipet:P
Verene
Personally I don't farm much; mostly just for Nicholas items or materials. The only farm I really do that's for money is feathers; it's not something that will get you insanely rich fast, but it's still easy and steady income. Sometimes when there's special holiday drops I'll do a bit for that. And then sometimes I'll just get bored and see if my Ritualist can clear a certain area or solo a boss without dying, just for the fun of it.
I really don't need much money. I'm not too interested in any of the goldsink titles beyond Sweet Tooth, and that I've been working at just with stuff from Nicholas gifts or the occasional event weekend. The majority of my money goes towards armor sets, and for the most part I find elite sets are really not worth the extra money they cost and the 1k sets look just as nice (or nicer). The only real exception to this is my Dervish, because there are so few armors available (and is why of the three elite armor sets I own, she has two of them)
So it's perfectly possible to get through the game without a lot of money. The most I've ever had at any one point in time was about 270k, and that was just after I'd sold my Mini Yakkington for 50e. Usually I have about 70-80k in actual money and a bit more in alcohol/sweets/party items. And no, I can't afford to buy an expensive mini-pet or Voltaic Spear or BDS, but do I even want to? Nope, more than happy without that sort of thing.
I really don't need much money. I'm not too interested in any of the goldsink titles beyond Sweet Tooth, and that I've been working at just with stuff from Nicholas gifts or the occasional event weekend. The majority of my money goes towards armor sets, and for the most part I find elite sets are really not worth the extra money they cost and the 1k sets look just as nice (or nicer). The only real exception to this is my Dervish, because there are so few armors available (and is why of the three elite armor sets I own, she has two of them)
So it's perfectly possible to get through the game without a lot of money. The most I've ever had at any one point in time was about 270k, and that was just after I'd sold my Mini Yakkington for 50e. Usually I have about 70-80k in actual money and a bit more in alcohol/sweets/party items. And no, I can't afford to buy an expensive mini-pet or Voltaic Spear or BDS, but do I even want to? Nope, more than happy without that sort of thing.
sonofthort
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Originally Posted by CH33Z3
why do people "farm" all day instead of just playing for fun?
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Unknown Duli
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Originally Posted by sonofthort
Some people farm for fun. If you are playing the game the point is fun anyways, so do what you like.
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Really, after GwAmM and playing though all campaigns with 8 characters, I find farming to be relaxing and extremely rewarding.
Its what I enjoy and really the only reason I still play (after 4 years).
MagmaRed
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I think most of us working on Treasure Hunter, Wisdom, and Lucky/Unlucky titles would like to have accomplished it by the time GW2 comes out, so I would be extremely interested in learning the non-farming way to do this. How long will it take to find 5,000 high-end chests or get 5,000 gold items during regular gameplay? How long will it take to get the keys and/or lockpicks needed to open 5,000 chests while depending on nothing but the income from ordinary play and the occasional key/pick dropped as loot? Please share! The wiki says these titles are very expensive, requiring over four million gold for the cheapest method they list to get TH alone, so it would be nice to know the cheaper, non-farming way to get them.
Will the same technique also give me 10k party points, or the cash to buy them, at the same time? While also giving me the cash and mats to get five sets of elite armor and a full set of Destroyer weapons? Even assuming GW2 won't be released for another two full years, is it really possible to accomplish all this with no farming whatsoever? Is the method practical for people who are unwilling to give up gainful employment and do nothing but play GW 10 hours per day? |
Not saying it isn't long and slow, but it is certainly possible, and allows you to do things that are 'fun' instead of mindless farming. If you enjoy farming, then do it. The game should be there to let you have fun. If you don't enjoy farming, then don't do it, and things you want to do can still get done, just slower for some of them.
ogre_jd
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The majority of my money goes towards armor sets, and for the most part I find elite sets are really not worth the extra money they cost and the 1k sets look just as nice (or nicer).
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[maybe I'm biased since my first character was a Prophecies Warrior and his first 1k armor was Templar when he reached Droknar's Forge; never have the helmets visible, though]
Quaker
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Originally Posted by CH33Z3
Guild Wars is my first MMO, and I am still new to it. My question is, why do people "farm" all day instead of just playing for fun? ...... Thanks for any insight.
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You might also get the impression that most people want to burn trough the game as fast as possible, given all the threads about "best" or "fastest" ways to do things.
Slow down and smell the virtual roses.
Dragons Avatar
Yea, i deff don't farm for fun either, i enjoy playing with my guildies a lot more. the 100k needed for some nice fancy armor is not a real prob. Once you've found your way around the game you'll realize 100k is easily made. It's when the Treasure Hunter, Wisdom Title, for me personaly: Sweets and Party Titles spark interest farming becomes a major thing.
If you're interested in Titles you'll find yourself "farming" Points on Sunspear, Lightbringer, Asura, Norn, Vanguard, Delver Title soon enough aswell.
I don't think there is all that many people who farm just to have the cash. The ones with seemingly "unlimited" amounts of money have more often than not gone after the Zaishen Title. which if bought will cost you at least 80,000 platinum.
Good luck with your GW adventures! =]
If you're interested in Titles you'll find yourself "farming" Points on Sunspear, Lightbringer, Asura, Norn, Vanguard, Delver Title soon enough aswell.
I don't think there is all that many people who farm just to have the cash. The ones with seemingly "unlimited" amounts of money have more often than not gone after the Zaishen Title. which if bought will cost you at least 80,000 platinum.
Good luck with your GW adventures! =]