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Originally Posted by Rampage
Rofl, I love this community. Farmers say crap like OMG ANET DONT LISTEN TO THE WHINERS, DONT NERF SF!!! and then proceed to whine about the MoR change until it's reverted.
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Update 24th Sept: MoR is back in PvE
AKB48
Still Number One
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Originally Posted by AKB48
SF is made to farm, it's created for that purpose, you can't make it both playable and no farmable lol (still don't get it?)
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jonnieboi05
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Originally Posted by upier
You don't open 10k chests or ID 10k gold items by "playing" the game.
Or max out Lucky/Unlucky. Or do sweets. Booze. Party. If one wants to go after those titles - one needs to farm. There is no way around it. |
Carry on, though. ^^
~LeNa~
MisterB
Thanks for fixing Escape.
Desert Rose
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Originally Posted by The Drunkard
...still waiting on the revert to QZ and splinter wep
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Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi
That is because no one (PVE players) was against reverting it back to its original form.
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ajc2123
I miss MoR for luxon side FA (PvP) only. It was funny watching rangers unable to stop my nukes. But Oh well. Not like I'm sad over it but it just seems like one more thing Kurzicks (I am kurzick actually) has over luxons now. Guess I'll start going /N and bring an enchant removal now.
fenix
Pretty bad ANet, pretty bad.
upier
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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
I'm sorry I very very very very much have to disagree with this. My fiance maxed her lucky without ANY type of farming. Her unlucky is at ~410k points, as well. She got these with 3+ years of "playing the game". She is at ~7500 ID's and ~9200 chests as well. All of this is from "playing the game". 3+ years will have that affect on you.
Carry on, though. ^^ |
A few thousand hours?
I am sorry to break to you, but your fiancée isn't playing the game. She's just farming it in a really inefficient way.
The game just doesn't have enough content to support those kind of numbers. It has what, 200 areas? And if you get some 5 chests or so per area, and you do that in HM and NM - you are nowhere NEAR being able to open 10k chests.
So that just means you are redoing the same content over and over again.
Having to complete the game - NM AND HM - on 6 or 7 guys or doing it 6 or 7 times on one guy, isn't reasonable.
Gill Halendt
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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
I'm sorry I very very very very much have to disagree with this. My fiance maxed her lucky without ANY type of farming.
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I've been actively playing for 3 years now (started in 2005 but left before Factions was released). Right now, I've maxed Sweet Tooth and Party Animal already, and I'm about to max Drunkard as well. Once I'm done with it, my main character will be GWAMM. I have never farmed so far, just "played the game" and saved as much money as I could. No lucky drops either.
Sure, this is taking more time, so long I couldn't afford even one single set of Obsidian Armor for my characters while a lot of players I know have crafted more than one, and the most expensive item I own is the ibiquitous Tormented Shield, but I don't care.
I really can't stand farming. I don't really feel like I need it anyway.
Gun Pierson
Thanks for the update on mantra!
jonnieboi05
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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt
Same here.
I've been actively playing for 3 years now (started in 2005 but left before Factions was released). Right now, I've maxed Sweet Tooth and Party Animal already, and I'm about to max Drunkard as well. Once I'm done with it, my main character will be GWAMM. I have never farmed so far, just "played the game" and saved as much money as I could. No lucky drops either. Sure, this is taking more time, so long I couldn't afford even one single set of Obsidian Armor for my characters while a lot of players I know have crafted more than one, and the most expensive item I own is the ibiquitous Tormented Shield, but I don't care. I really can't stand farming. I don't really feel like I need it anyway. |
~LeNa~
Gill Halendt
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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
Thank you for this. Some people just don't understand that people DO have 15+ characters that they actively play.
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Originally Posted by upier
Playtime?
Having to complete the game - NM AND HM - on 6 or 7 guys or doing it 6 or 7 times on one guy, isn't reasonable. |
AlsPals
Wow, some people play alot of guild wars then. I dont have alot of obligations and I still manage to put at most 3 hours a night in playtime, rest will be AFK time when I fall asleep.
Jecht Scye
Thank you ArenaNet. Good decision to split MoR. 
vamp08
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Originally Posted by sonofthort
anet, plz ignore half the ungreatful posters on this forum, and thanks for the update!
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tuna-fish_sushi
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Originally Posted by Desert Rose
Don't be to sure about this. I kinda liked that i have to pay attention while farming; made it far more interesting. |
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Originally Posted by Chocobo1
There were a few eg the people who were decent enough at the game to not need a blanket NO INTERUPTZ LOL skill.
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Sure I can farm without it, but that doesn't mean I like what they did to the skill.
sosycpsycho
Why do people try to control or stop something they don't claim to do. It's pretty simple I have 15 chars, 14 are through all chapters and 1 is a level 18 perma pre. I like to farm greens, money to get rare weapons and armor, and to solo things for sport. These things give me no advantage in the game. I prefer to hunt my greens and drops as opposed to buy them and I have entertaining stories about almost every weapon I hunted down. I like to farm and I choose to do this as opposed to hunt titles. I didn't need MoR, I don't need MoR but it is a handy skill to stop interrupts from some bosses, areas, and it is suited well for some farming and I once again am glad to see it returned to normal. This has nothing to do with shadowfarming, speed clears, or farming in general and people like to drag that into it. Let people enjoy themselves and quit with the elitist "I don't need to farm cause I am awesome" "play the game normal" hateful crap. Let it go 
Master Sword Keeper
what's with all the network bashings?
Get over it kids! It said in the developer notes that it was an unintentional Change. Sheesh
stop QQing and get back to playing.
btw, I applaude Anet for this action. Doesnt mean i couldnt of farmed the same areas without it. Versitility.
Thank you all the more.
Get over it kids! It said in the developer notes that it was an unintentional Change. Sheesh
stop QQing and get back to playing.
btw, I applaude Anet for this action. Doesnt mean i couldnt of farmed the same areas without it. Versitility.
Thank you all the more.
Aldo wants more
Thanks for the split, The amount of people QQing about the QQ'ers in this thread is making me lol.
But seriously, how does this skill split actually affect your gameplay? If it doesn't, then why so much grief over it?
But seriously, how does this skill split actually affect your gameplay? If it doesn't, then why so much grief over it?
Arachnephobia
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Originally Posted by Enon
Last time I checked you don't need MoR to farm Vaettirs. And we all know Vaettirs drop better than Raptors. =)
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Age
No Notes here it is.
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Update - Thursday, September 24, 2009 Skill Updates Mantra of Resolve (PvE): reverted this skill to its original functionality. Bug Fixes Fixed a bug that prevented Escape from appropriately blocking melee attacks. |
superraptors
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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
I'm sorry I very very very very much have to disagree with this. My fiance maxed her lucky without ANY type of farming. Her unlucky is at ~410k points, as well. She got these with 3+ years of "playing the game". She is at ~7500 ID's and ~9200 chests as well. All of this is from "playing the game". 3+ years will have that affect on you.
Carry on, though. ^^ ~LeNa~ |
so thats like approx 1250 chests from playing teh game on 1 char
and if u say u got 9k+ thats 7+ chars, opening every single chest you see, now if thats so , that is really sad, honestly, dont try act like some mad kent pvp pro because you probably pve more then you pvp.
09 tombzer peace
ANYWAYS
MoR is nice revert, cause it dont affect anyone, easier for runners to run people through pve which is a joke even without it
Nerel
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Originally Posted by upier
*snip*
There is no reasonable alternative to farming in the game if you want the goals that are balanced with farming in mind. You don't open 10k chests or ID 10k gold items by "playing" the game. Or max out Lucky/Unlucky. Or do sweets. Booze. Party. If one wants to go after those titles - one needs to farm. There is no way around it. |
Maxed all those titles without the gimmick farming builds (SF, SB/600, 55), multiple times in many cases. The reasonable alternative is to play the game, not farm it with those gimmick builds. You don't need to defend bad skills supporting horrid OP gimmick builds with lies, but then, you don't NEED to max those titles either.
Just working on other titles, like legendary vanquisher, generates a huge sum of income assuming you aren't pissing it all away on consumables or paying people to do vanquishes for you... use that money to buy your sweets and alcohol if you must.
Edit: @superraptors (above)
You're right, 9200 chests is a hell of a lot to get without dedicated chest running, which some people don't really consider farming as you can do it with any profession, no (player) skill and little more than lock picks in your inventory and some speed buffs on your skill bar. Possibly just an issue of semantics regarding farming (for profit) and running (simple chest running).
Speaking of running... is running (as in running dungeons/missions etc) considered farming?
fenix
This is going off topic, so, closed.