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kakaislegend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

28 Sep 2009 at 01:57 - 1

Hi all how are ya!!!!

I am new here, hoping to make friends of course!

Ok....so the story is that I have decided to play Guild wars.....Currently I play CS 1.6, Diablo 2, both are excellent, but I want to play something like MMORPG like WOW....and it consumes my broadband, monthly fee, etc. Plus, I heard the patches take ages to download. SO my preference is Guild Wars.

Just like any other newbies....I have several questions to ask:

1. What makes GW better than WOW? Sure, each has pros and cons, but other than monthly fees, what makes GW > WOW? I also heard GW is more PvP oriented, which is excellent, because that is what I do in Diablo 2.

2. There is Guildwars...nightfall...factions...eye of the north...guildwars 2.... What are these?!?!? Which one do people play most? Are they expansions?

3. Do many people still play GW?

Well...that is all for now...I really am sorry for asking too many questions >_<
But I am truly honestly confused

If I have questions i will be sure to ask here!

Thanks a lot, peace! Hope to be joining you soon in GW!!!!

branamanp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2008

[MOB]

A/

28 Sep 2009 at 02:15 - 2

welcome to gw
1. havent really played wow but my friends always talk about the grind involved in it so if you dont like grind that is a plus in gw. there are a lot of ppl who focus on pvp but there is a lot of pve too. easy to do both bec you can just make a pvp char when you want it.

2. guildwars(also called prophecies) is the original, there are also factions and nightfall. these are all stand alone campaigns that then meld together to form one game. you can play with just one or get all 3. eye is an expansion pack that requires you to have one of the other 3 in order to play. guild wars 2 is not out yet and prob wont be out for at least a year.

3.yes there are a lot of ppl still playing gw.

if you are interested in pvp they are about to come out with a new type of pvp that should also help you get used to the different skills in pvp and still not be at too much of a disadvantage.

hope that helps

when you get the game pm me in game if you need help
ign Vanir vor

Touch_Of_Grenth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2009

Chico!!! CALI!!!

Grenth Owned Disciples

D/A

28 Sep 2009 at 02:15 - 3

hello ,

first of all i would like to say WELCOME to the guildwars community

the reason i believe is the PvP structure, it is pretty awesom

the origional is prophacies then factions then night fall eotn is an expansion to the prophacies campaign . factions is were u can recieve an assasin or ritualist
night fall is were u can recieve a dervish or paragon

yes lots of ppl play guild wars couple million i believe

if u have more questions ill gladly answer them in here or u can pm me in here or even add me to friends in the game i have 43 months experiance in the game

IGN: Touch Of Grenth
take care

wow weird i posted the same time as above person lol

kakaislegend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

28 Sep 2009 at 02:25 - 4

Wow, thanks for the really quick and warm welcome here

What does grind mean by the way?

Hmmm....I will try...

1. Ok, so, There are 3 Guild wars "stand-alone" games. Prophecies (original), Factions, then Nightfall. In order to be able to play EoTN, I have to have Prophecies? What is the good thing about buying all 4? Because I plan on buying all 4 anyway

2. Guild Wars 2 has not been released yet, I hope it will be better than WoW?

3. From YOUR opinion, what makes you think GW > WoW?

Yeah, I know I have so many questions...but right now I cannot think of any >_<

Oh, and a off topic quesiont :P Is the music in GW good?

Thanks a lot all!

Great Dwarf Weapon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2009

E/

28 Sep 2009 at 02:27 - 5

I dont know much about WoW but ill try to explain gw

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1. What makes GW better than WOW? Sure, each has pros and cons, but other than monthly fees, what makes GW > WOW? I also heard GW is more PvP oriented, which is excellent, because that is what I do in Diablo 2.

First of GW is more about skill than gear. its more complicated because you can only have 8 skills max on your bar meaning you have to choose your skills wisely.

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2. There is Guildwars...nightfall...factions...eye of the north...guildwars 2.... What are these?!?!? Which one do people play most? Are they expansions?

Guild Wars Eye of The North is the expansions the rest of the games(Guild Wars Prophecies, Nightfall , Fractions) are just chapters in the storyline. And people dont play one chapter more or less.

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3. Do many people still play GW?

Yes alot of people

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Thanks a lot, peace! Hope to be joining you soon in GW!!!!

Hope To see you ingame too add me my ign is: Im Leet Sauce

Gnats3

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2009

Pennsylvania

28 Sep 2009 at 02:33 - 6

Think of it this way: there are 3 continents in Guild Wars. Prophecies (originally just called Guild Wars), Factions, and Nightfall each give you access to a particular one of the 3 continents. Characters can travel between any of the continents that you have access to. Eye of the North is an actual expansion pack that adds more stuff in one of the continents for high-level characters. GW2 is an actual sequel that isn't out yet.

komma

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

None

N/

28 Sep 2009 at 02:35 - 7

ProTip: when installing guildwars games make sure you link them together not install them each as seperate accounts.

Need a tutorial ingame msg Komma Kommander

Great Dwarf Weapon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2009

E/

28 Sep 2009 at 02:36 - 8

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Originally Posted by kakaislegend

1. Ok, so, There are 3 Guild wars "stand-alone" games. Prophecies (original), Factions, then Nightfall. In order to be able to play EoTN, I have to have Prophecies? What is the good thing about buying all 4? Because I plan on buying all 4 anyway

there not stand alone campaigns once you get to the main city you can take a quest and travel to each campaign(as long as you have em)

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2. Guild Wars 2 has not been released yet, I hope it will be better than WoW?

We all hope so. watch the trailer here

EDIT: OHH i got a tip to do the -image command to save yourself time. try playing fractions first its easiest to lvl/understand

komma

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

None

N/

28 Sep 2009 at 02:39 - 9

Prophs Factions and nf are all standalone games. Don't get it twisted. Eotn is the only expansion requiring you to have one of the above mentioned campaigns.

Rolandl

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2009

28 Sep 2009 at 02:52 - 10

Buy the 3 in 1 campaign package - its cheaper than buying them separately. Add the EoTN expansion later if you really like GW.

Join a friendly helpful guild. Having guild mates to chat and ask for advice/help really enhance GW.

Start on prophecy first - its the lowest learning curve.

Never played WoW but with GW there are no monthly fees

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

28 Sep 2009 at 03:03 - 11

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Originally Posted by Rolandl

Buy the 3 in 1 campaign package - its cheaper than buying them separately. Add the EoTN expansion later if you really like GW.

Guild Wars Complete Collection for all 4 in one box.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

28 Sep 2009 at 03:50 - 12

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Just like any other newbies....I have several questions to ask:

1. What makes GW better than WOW? Sure, each has pros and cons, but other than monthly fees, what makes GW > WOW? I also heard GW is more PvP oriented, which is excellent, because that is what I do in Diablo 2

GW is a unique MMO of it's class, none other are like it. Comparing GW to WoW (and WoW is a common type MMO isn't really fair enough).

Basically there are no pros or cons, each game has it's own greatness, however what kind of pro's GW over WoW is that it is free of monthly fees making it possible to play on and off not worrying about having to keep an account charged up with a subscription, it's always there.

Most will give you basic stuff like, WoW you can jump and reach level 80, GW you can't jump and can only reach level 20 but people who bluntly say these things are in no position to even use their brains fully.

For PvP, you'll wanna get sharper with GW before you do any of that but there are some really great PvP players out there who can help you with that once your ready. You can also create level 20 characters for pvp only areas right off the start if you wish.

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2. There is Guildwars...nightfall...factions...eye of the north...guildwars 2.... What are these?!?!? Which one do people play most? Are they expansions?

Guildwars (original game also called Guildwars: Prophecies) was released in April 2005. GW: Factions was released in April 2006, Nightfall in Oct 2006 and EoTN (eye of the north), July 2007 (i think). Every game EXCEPT EoTN is standalone. Guildwar's client downloads everything, so don't bother with the CD's of each game but you will wanna of course pay attention to the serial keys. What standalone means though for GW s is you don't have to have all games, you can have just one.

Each game has a key that comes with the box, all you need to do is have GW downloaded (or installed from CD but those are outdated content, as GW is an online MMO). You can have one game, a couple or all games. Basucally as you get another game you just add the key to your existing account in which you made with a key from one of the games, so they ARE sorta like expansions to someone expanding their account, but they are standalone as i said. To Play Eye of the North you need at least ONE guildwars account that has access to at least one of the 3 standalone games, more are of course good but you need at least one to be able to play EoTN as it's just a basic expansion primarily to a full GW account.

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3. Do many people still play GW?

Of Course!

Don't listen to anyone who says the game is dead or anyone who explains GW in a couple words like "speed clears" or "build wars" just play your own game and enjoy it! Best advice I can give is to try and learn lots of things yourself as it seems these days people in the game all do nothing but follow the same bandwagon. You can play alone or with other people. If you wish not to play with other people there are henchmen NPC's that can come with you on your questing or a mission.

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Well...that is all for now...I really am sorry for asking too many questions >_<
But I am truly honestly confused

You didn't ask a lot of questions, I think you'll be asking more soon though and don't be confused, I learned it all by myself in early 2006 playing for the first time before factions came out, it dosen't take long to learn.

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

28 Sep 2009 at 04:57 - 13

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...snip... What does grind mean by the way? ...snip...

Grind is doing the same thing over and over and over.

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1. Ok, so, There are 3 Guild wars "stand-alone" games. Prophecies (original), Factions, then Nightfall. In order to be able to play EoTN, I have to have Prophecies? What is the good thing about buying all 4? Because I plan on buying all 4 anyway

Cool, I would check out Newegg.com as they often have specials.

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2. Guild Wars 2 has not been released yet, I hope it will be better than WoW?

So do we. Have you checked out guildwars2guru?

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3. From YOUR opinion, what makes you think GW > WoW?

Guild Wars is all about skills. As mentioned above there are a lot of skills, but you only get to select eight of them for use at any one time. While unlocking the skills with a PvE toon takes longer, you will find it much easer than trying to use faction points (gained in PvP) to unlock all of the skills.
Another factor is that only towns are open, all explorables are instanced. In short, no loot/boss stealing as happens so often in WoW. You form parties in towns then exit the town into an instanced zone to do your quest or mission with only the party members with you.

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Oh, and a off topic quesiont :P Is the music in GW good?

Not really off topic, as I see it. Yes, the music is good, better than most games. The worse music was the battle music for NightFall, it is not the music itself, it is how it is implamented. The battle music is often cut off or starts too late. There are music packs available if you want to explore the higher quality options.

kakaislegend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

28 Sep 2009 at 05:26 - 14

Thanks so much! Wow nice people in this forum haha

Wait...Dzjudz said it is better for me to buy the collection pack (4 in 1) box.

However, Chrisworld said

"Guildwar's client downloads everything, so don't bother with the CD's of each game but you will wanna of course pay attention to the serial keys"

So...should I get the 4 in 1 box?

But Im sure many people will agree, installing all 4 is more rewarding than just one, correct?

I am in Australia...not sure if Electronics Boutique still sell them >_<

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

28 Sep 2009 at 05:34 - 15

the 4 in 1 box basically contains the serials needed to play. the discs themselves are worthless.

GW's client will download all the content from all the campaigns and expansion. however, you'll need the individual serials to play those content.

they say a picture is worth a thousand words, and a video is... well, thousands of pictures. with that in mind, i suggest you visit these two youtube channels:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SabreWolf18
http://www.youtube.com/user/aliasmoriz

sabrewolf's channel contains many good guides about individual aspects of GW. my channel consists of a lot of GW's pvp gameplay. hopefully you'll find them useful.

kakaislegend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

28 Sep 2009 at 05:41 - 16

Thanks Moriz

I am planning on buying the PC Guild Wars The Complete Collection New & Sealed from Ebay.

So basically its a 4 in 1 collection box consisting of original GW (Prophecies), Factions, Nightfall, and Eye of The North.

Just before I buy it, I need you guys opinion. Is this what I should buy?

And also, no one has naswered my questions yet :P It is obviously more rewarding to play all 4 instead of just one?

Thanks again

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

28 Sep 2009 at 05:45 - 17

generally, yes. you'll have a much better experience having all three campaigns and the expansion. you'll have access to all 10 professions as well as having the ability to unlock every skill in the game.

kakaislegend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

28 Sep 2009 at 05:56 - 18

Alright....So it is decided I will buy the Collector's Edition 4 in 1 box then?

I am sure I have asked too many questions....I am so annoying now sorry >_< so that is why these are my last questions (hopefully):

1. Komma said:
"ProTip: when installing guildwars games make sure you link them together not install them each as seperate accounts."

What does that mean? Im scared hahaha

2. Is there a link that gives a very detailed explanation on the basics of GW? Like what each skill does, item does, what profession does etc etc?

Once again, sorry for asking too many and thanks for the great help!

bsoltan

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

[SoF]

28 Sep 2009 at 06:28 - 19

1. If you were buying the games individually you would get 1 serial number for each game and would have to register each one in turn to the same account. However as you're buying the Complete Collection you will only get one serial number, so when you have installed the game you can setup a new account with your email address and password (make sure it is secure) and just add the one serial number to register all the games.

2. The best place to find information would be the wiki: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page it has plenty of information including skill descriptions and profession guides.

Good luck and enjoy the game.

kakaislegend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

28 Sep 2009 at 06:50 - 20

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Originally Posted by bsoltan

1. If you were buying the games individually you would get 1 serial number for each game and would have to register each one in turn to the same account. However as you're buying the Complete Collection you will only get one serial number, so when you have installed the game you can setup a new account with your email address and password (make sure it is secure) and just add the one serial number to register all the games.

2. The best place to find information would be the wiki: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page it has plenty of information including skill descriptions and profession guides.

Good luck and enjoy the game.

So bsoltan, you are saying it is easier for me to buy the complete collection because I will only have to use 1 serial number, compared to buying individually, where I have to put in all 4 serial numbers?

I still do not know the account creation yet, but I assume you create an account, and then inside that account, you install nightfall/factions/etc? Is this correct?

Blackwolf045

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2009

28 Sep 2009 at 07:29 - 21

I would say , since you have cs 1.6... (legit i hope)
Just buy the 3 in 1 pack on steam, its 49.99 and you get the 3 games. ( Not the expansion though )
Of course you need to use a credit card, but i'm pretty sure if your using ebay and steam you have a credit card of some sort. ( Or paypal, i believe that steam allows paypal payment , not 100% sure) I buy from steam all the time and it's very secure.

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

28 Sep 2009 at 07:53 - 22

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Originally Posted by kakaislegend

So bsoltan, you are saying it is easier for me to buy the complete collection because I will only have to use 1 serial number, compared to buying individually, where I have to put in all 4 serial numbers?

I still do not know the account creation yet, but I assume you create an account, and then inside that account, you install nightfall/factions/etc? Is this correct?

Well not only that, you will get each game for $12.50, since the entire collection costs $50. It makes it easier than having to go hunt for a good price on all 4 games.

Kendil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2009

Sweden

28 Sep 2009 at 11:59 - 23

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Originally Posted by kakaislegend

I still do not know the account creation yet, but I assume you create an account, and then inside that account, you install nightfall/factions/etc? Is this correct?

You'll get to the starting screen, and you'll be able to press a text which says "create account or add access key" you'll press that and then It's pretty simple, just follow the instructions. Keep in mind that with the first chapter you install, you'll want to create an account, while you'll want to add an access key when installing the other 3.

kakaislegend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

28 Sep 2009 at 12:13 - 24

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Originally Posted by Kendil

You'll get to the starting screen, and you'll be able to press a text which says "create account or add access key" you'll press that and then It's pretty simple, just follow the instructions. Keep in mind that with the first chapter you install, you'll want to create an account, while you'll want to add an access key when installing the other 3.

Now that is what i want, answers my question!

ohh, cannot wait to get Guild Wars!

But I am not sure if i should stop playing Dibalo 2 first....

Btw to answer the first post in page 2, I will try my best not to touch Steam ever again. Steam is honestly very annoying, high ping, for no reason.

bsoltan

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

[SoF]

28 Sep 2009 at 12:29 - 25

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Originally Posted by kakaislegend

So bsoltan, you are saying it is easier for me to buy the complete collection because I will only have to use 1 serial number, compared to buying individually, where I have to put in all 4 serial numbers?

I still do not know the account creation yet, but I assume you create an account, and then inside that account, you install nightfall/factions/etc? Is this correct?

You already said you were planning on buying the Complete Collection from eBay so I didn't go into any more details about adding keys but I believe other people have answered your question.

If you bought GW through Steam you wouldn't be using Steam servers to play as the servers are hosted by Arena Net so your ping may be improved however there aren't Australian servers so you'll most likely be playing on the American servers.
You will have to compare the price of buying all campaigns individually or buying the Complete Collection and where you can buy them from and also consider the prices from Steam and the NCSoft store or other digital distributors.

kakaislegend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

28 Sep 2009 at 13:46 - 26

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Originally Posted by bsoltan

You already said you were planning on buying the Complete Collection from eBay so I didn't go into any more details about adding keys but I believe other people have answered your question.

If you bought GW through Steam you wouldn't be using Steam servers to play as the servers are hosted by Arena Net so your ping may be improved however there aren't Australian servers so you'll most likely be playing on the American servers.
You will have to compare the price of buying all campaigns individually or buying the Complete Collection and where you can buy them from and also consider the prices from Steam and the NCSoft store or other digital distributors.

Wow, no Australian server for GW? Shocking news indeed!

Anyway, I just realized that the complete edition I am buying from is from UK....meaning its region 2, and Australia only plays region 4...this is a very sad news for me

Does anyone happen to know where I can get the 4 games in Australia?

So sad......

Kendil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2009

Sweden

28 Sep 2009 at 14:19 - 27

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Originally Posted by kakaislegend

Wow, no Australian server for GW? Shocking news indeed!

Anyway, I just realized that the complete edition I am buying from is from UK....meaning its region 2, and Australia only plays region 4...this is a very sad news for me

Does anyone happen to know where I can get the 4 games in Australia?

So sad......

Even if there was an austrailan district, not many would be there, as everyone is in the American districts.

Um... have you tried a store that sells games? I guess you have, and then internet is probably your best bet.

kakaislegend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

29 Sep 2009 at 08:58 - 28

I guess I have made up my mind.

Yeah, maybe i will play GW, but one last thing that stands in the way is this;

I assume GW will "download" contents of the game rather than actually installing them? Therefore this is going to consume LOTS of broadband?

Silmar Alech

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2009

Europe

Tom Son [TS]

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29 Sep 2009 at 09:28 - 29

The download is a one-time download, since it is all cached locally in one big gw.dat file. It is approx. 3.8GB. If you install GW from a retail dvd, this cache file is preinstalled and the download is only the game updates since the manufacturing of the dvd. If you installed without dvd directly from the ncsoft website, you download these 3.8gb during gameplay. There is one big initial download of perhaps 1-2GB, and the rest is pulled on demand every time you visit a yet-unvisited area or outpost until you have visited every place.

The every-day bandwith is very small. The game was originally designed to support even 56k modem users, I was told.

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

29 Sep 2009 at 11:15 - 30

You don't need a cd/dvd to install or play this game. The only thing you need is a serial key. You can download the whole game from guildwars.com.

kakaislegend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

29 Sep 2009 at 11:28 - 31

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Originally Posted by Silmar Alech

The download is a one-time download, since it is all cached locally in one big gw.dat file. It is approx. 3.8GB. If you install GW from a retail dvd, this cache file is preinstalled and the download is only the game updates since the manufacturing of the dvd. If you installed without dvd directly from the ncsoft website, you download these 3.8gb during gameplay. There is one big initial download of perhaps 1-2GB, and the rest is pulled on demand every time you visit a yet-unvisited area or outpost until you have visited every place.

The every-day bandwith is very small. The game was originally designed to support even 56k modem users, I was told.

Ah,....what a great news...

However before that you mentioned that the download is 3.8 Giga bytes...

Geez that is big

My internet limit is only 7 GB = (

bsoltan

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

[SoF]

29 Sep 2009 at 12:00 - 32

If you buy the game and get the disk then a lot of the content can be copied from the disks to save downloading it, however any updates or content that has been added or changed would have to be downloaded.
It also doesn't have to download everything at once, it isn't 3gig straight away but it will download enough for you to login and get started then as you access new areas it will download that content when you need it, and some will have already come from the disk.

In terms of day to day play there is very small data transfer so you should be fine with a 7GB limit.