Guild Wars x 2 on a Mac?

dts720666

dts720666

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Join Date: Apr 2007

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It's time for me to upgrade my computer. I've been trying to play GW on a 5 year old computer. Recently, as I play, I smell melting plastic. Not good.

So I want to get a Mac. I see that I can use something like Wine, CrossOver, or BootCamp to run Guildwars. But I have two questions:

First, can I also use a Hex Editor like XVI32 to run two or more copies of GW on a Mac?

Second, will I also be able to run Guildwars 2 when it comes out?

If the answer to either of these is "NO" then I have a a follow up question:

Does anyone know if XVI32 will work on Windows 7?

(As you can see, I make my computer decisions based on what will run Guild Wars... it's the best way to pick a computer!)

Varda

Varda

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Second, will I also be able to run Guildwars 2 when it comes out?
Yes. Otherwise I think a userbase of CrossOver Games will go mad at Codeweavers.
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/...ownload_trial/ CX Games trial.

http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Develop...exEditor.shtml
Found this
http://hexedit.sourceforge.net/
And this, it looks like that one is getting more updates.
http://www.ridiculousfish.com/hexfiend/ More..
Dunno if it's what you want...

riktw

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Join Date: Jul 2008

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and get a mac with a decent VGA card, else it wont run really well.
and worst case scenario, dualboot with windows to play GW, but if the system can handle GW2 you can play it on your mac.
maybe it wont be easy to get it going, but you can play it

Faure

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If you use bootcamp to run windows (which i recommend if you want to game), you just boot a windows OS, there's no sign of mac at all apart from the looks of your computer. All drivers for machardware are provided on the osX cd (which you have to install after you installed windows on a partition).

So basicly, anything you could do with your current windows, you can do it on windows-on-a-mac.

dsielschott

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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ok so I am just going to say it......EASY way to solve all of these problems is not to get a mac.....because you have to run all of the windows operations in the "background"just to play the game....which will ultimatly slow down your computer because computer usage.....

but if you REALLY REALLY want a mac for other purposes other than gaming.....well i guess you could use the bootcamp just like Faure recommended.

not sure about the other problems/questions......

Kanna Banrai

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If you do play GW via Crossover on the Mac just create another installing of Guild Wars on a different bottle, and you can play two at once. No other program is needed.

Master Ketsu

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FYI there is nothing you can do on a mac that you cannot do better on linux if you are savvy enough. Mac uses the Unix platform and dumbs it down from there.

I am able to run GW at 70 FPS with a 9600 card on Fedora core 10 and Ubuntu 8.10 using wine ( stable ).

Bob Slydell

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Originally Posted by dts720666 View Post
It's time for me to upgrade my computer. I've been trying to play GW on a 5 year old computer. Recently, as I play, I smell melting plastic. Not good.

So I want to get a Mac. I see that I can use something like Wine, CrossOver, or BootCamp to run Guildwars. But I have two questions:

First, can I also use a Hex Editor like XVI32 to run two or more copies of GW on a Mac?

Second, will I also be able to run Guildwars 2 when it comes out?

If the answer to either of these is "NO" then I have a a follow up question:

Does anyone know if XVI32 will work on Windows 7?

(As you can see, I make my computer decisions based on what will run Guild Wars... it's the best way to pick a computer!)
You can just run bootcamp with Windows to play GW... that way its easier than trying to emulate a windows program in OSX that tries to run two windows programs at once blah blah blah, I don't think Crossover allows you to run two virtual windows spaces at once though I haven't tried, I'd play GW on OSX if it didn't have terrible FPS (being emulated and such).

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Originally Posted by dsielschott View Post
ok so I am just going to say it......EASY way to solve all of these problems is not to get a mac.....because you have to run all of the windows operations in the "background"just to play the game....which will ultimatly slow down your computer because computer usage.....

but if you REALLY REALLY want a mac for other purposes other than gaming.....well i guess you could use the bootcamp just like Faure recommended.

not sure about the other problems/questions......
What do you mean? I use bootcamp and I don't run anything strange in the background, it's like a PC.

Gift3d

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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Get a windows emulator. Or just install windows and start being able to use your computer again.

How's it feel to spend over twice as much for a mac, yet still being forced to emulate windows on it.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

If you're serious and your #1 priority is to run Windows apps ie. GW (and two copies of it at that) and GW2... then why would you choose a Mac?

Quaker

Quaker

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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All hype aside - the new Intel Macs are essentially a PC without a BIOS. Bootcamp emulates the bios and allows you to install Windows (presumably, Win 7 as well)
So - can you run GW, GWx2, or GW2 on a Mac? Yes, just like on any other PC, first you install Windows.....
Can you run GW, etc., in OSX? Maybe, but why bother when option A (Bootcamp + Windows) is so easy and works so well.
Can you run GW, etc., in Linux? Maybe, but then you're just asking for trouble.

Edit - btw, a Mac is expensive (I'd even say over-priced), but there are other brands, such as Sony, that are almost as expensive. And they are sleek, well built machines. They aren't for anyone who likes to upgrade/rebuild their machines. But you can game on a Mac just as well as on any other equivalent spec PC, simply by installing Windows.

Bob Slydell

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Originally Posted by Gift3d View Post
How's it feel to spend over twice as much for a mac, yet still being forced to emulate windows on it.
Bootcamp isn't emulation. Booting Windows on a mac isn't emulation. Windows can run fully natively on a mac with out even having OSX. So yeah, it feels good.

Master Ketsu

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Can you run GW, etc., in Linux? Maybe, but then you're just asking for trouble.
Guild wars works great on wine 1.1.12 ~ 1.1.20

But really, just build your own and get a high end GTX + corsair PSU then dualboot Linux + Windows 7. If you are willing to put the work in to do that the result will be a far superior product for less than half the cost.

Macs are not for hardcore nerds/gamers. They are the kind of thing you buy for your girlfriend on her birthday. A sleek, easy to use machine that meets casual needs - but not much else.

Varda

Varda

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Macs are not for hardcore nerds/gamers. They are the kind of thing you buy for your girlfriend on her birthday. A sleek, easy to use machine that meets casual needs - but not much else.
What are you going on?
I'm using Mac at home, and at work, because I'm a graphic designer, Mac is far superior when it comes to work with many heavy programs, just minimize one to the dock and it use a tiny bit of the CPU. It's nice to have Illustrator, Photoshop and Flash running at same time without fear of crashing.

Note: I do not want to start a Mac vs Windows war, I hate those.

Snograt

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Note: I do not want to start a Mac vs Windows war, I hate those.
A good guideline when posting in this forum.

Master Ketsu

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What are you going on?
I'm using Mac at home, and at work, because I'm a graphic designer, Mac is far superior when it comes to work with many heavy programs, just minimize one to the dock and it use a tiny bit of the CPU. It's nice to have Illustrator, Photoshop and Flash running at same time without fear of crashing.

Note: I do not want to start a Mac vs Windows war, I hate those.
I'm not comparing mac to windows, I am comparing it to linux. Mac runs on a heavily gutted and dumbed down unix platform. Set up right Linux will do those things better. Ive ran Autodesk Maya on both mac and Linux before ( using the Rpm package version ) and linux was noticeably better. The only reason to use mac is if you can't use linux.

There are maybe a few programs that mac will run better than Linux that are specifically designed to do so which are useful...but the number of those programs can be counted on your fingers. If you absolutely MUST have those specific progz running at peak for your job, then Mac is ok. Otherwise, Linux is stronger.

To put it simply:

Graphic Design:
Mac=>Linux>Windows

Gaming:
Windows>>>Linux>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>Mac

Programming/Dev/Server maintenance
Linux>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Win2k>>>>>>>>>>>> 9000>>>>>>>>>

Basic Use ( Email / chat / casual use )
Linux>>Mac>>>>>>>>Windows

Look ma I can use a computer!
Mac>>>Windows>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Linu x

moriz

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Varda View Post
What are you going on?
I'm using Mac at home, and at work, because I'm a graphic designer, Mac is far superior when it comes to work with many heavy programs, just minimize one to the dock and it use a tiny bit of the CPU. It's nice to have Illustrator, Photoshop and Flash running at same time without fear of crashing.

Note: I do not want to start a Mac vs Windows war, I hate those.
my windows based computer can do the same thing.

let's just put it this way:
-everything you can do on a mac, i can do on my windows based desktop.
-everything i can do on my desktop, you might not be able to do on your mac. specifically gaming.

if i ever somehow manage to get a mac, i'll install windows on it and ignore OS X for all eternity. it will have to be a gift however, since i'm certainly not going to pay for one at their inflated prices.

Quaker

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You guys need to stop confusing "Mac" with OSX. One is a PC, the other is an OS.

A Mac PC can run Linux, or OSX, or Windows. A non-mac PC can't run OSX (only because Apple won't make a version available), but can also run Linux and Windows.

From what I've seen, there is very little difference in how well apps run under either OS given similar hardware. I know there's lots of hype about "blue screens" and "viruses", but ..... hype is hype. To paraphrase a Playstation commercial - "Don't believe everything you see on the internet (or commercials) - that's how WWI got started."