use balthazar points for title rewards.

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Oke, just a sugestion,
we have the Z key reward in exchange for balthazar points, we can unlock
skills and upgrades and runes with balthazar points.

but would it be possible to make a system which you can exchange Balthazar
points for titles, it would give us a change to do something els than grinding
on the normal way. And you wouldn't get it for free.
And maybe it would stimulate people to do more PvP during the time they play.

For example,:

a 100 lightbringer points would cost U 5000 balthazar points.
5 wisdom points for 5000 points
5 sweet tooth for 5000 points
etc...


justa Idea

caballo_oscuro

caballo_oscuro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Aura

/notsigned

would make the game very imbalanced. PvP has already got a rewards system. The PvE titles are specifically for accomplishing PvE tasks.

However, I wouldn't object to balth faction being exchanged for physical items like booze, sweets, or other tangibles at a fair exchange rate, so at least titles like party animal, sweet tooth etc could be acquired.

But as you wouldn't have HoM access, there would be no benefit from it other than being able to display on your char, as titles confer benefits in GW2 and will only count when registered in HoM.

Short

Short

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

Protectors of Fate [GoF]

N/Me

No...But I wouldn't mind a title for handing in Balthazar in any way, it'd just be fun.


P.S But not for buying ZKeys

Betrayer of Wind

Betrayer of Wind

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

Brazil

Agents of Indecision[meh]

Me/

Zaishen rank,hello?

drkn

drkn

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

Me/

yeah, and let people grind both pvp and pve titles by going pvp whilst the other way around won't work.

one of the most tarded pvp-er idea ever heard, sorry.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Lets turn this around....

WTS 500 Treasure points for 500k faction!

SpiritThief

SpiritThief

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by caballo_oscuro View Post
/notsigned
However, I wouldn't object to balth faction being exchanged for physical items like booze, sweets, or other tangibles at a fair exchange rate, so at least titles like party animal, sweet tooth etc could be acquired.
This, sweets and booze would be nice.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

You can simply trade in Balthazar points for keys, sell them to the scrubs who buy that sort of thing, and use the gold to purchase the desired title items.

/notsigned

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

N/

If this happened, then the reverse would have to happen. PvP titles for PvE. Oh look, I just perma sin'd Kathandrax in HM, Now I can show of my Phoenix rank! I am so pro!

/notsigned

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
You can simply trade in Balthazar points for keys, sell them to the scrubs who buy that sort of thing, and use the gold to purchase the desired title items.

/notsigned
Wel, that must be the best reason to notsign I ever seen.

So change Z keys. go shouting in GTOB or spammadan and hope for the best.
might be nicer to play directly for the things you want. Or am I mistaken

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobo1 View Post

If this happened, then the reverse would have to happen. PvP titles for PvE. Oh look, I just perma sin'd Kathandrax in HM, Now I can show of my Phoenix rank! I am so pro!

/notsigned
Its you talking about the reverse.

Its not that you should get rank emotes by PvE.. ask the charr that spam
the tiger.. that was kind of to see.
I just say, it would be nice if you play pvp and pve to change the B points
into pve title. And it might even get more people play pvp..

The 1 good argument I have seen is the one of HoM, indeed it would get
you advantage being a PvE player wiht a HoM account comparing to a
PvP player with no HoM account.
But at the other hand, this is already the case, most of the PvE players
have HoM with some titles, so being a PvP player only, that wouldn't change much.

Killerminds

Killerminds

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

For 5...21 seconds I CAN take damage

Union Of Light Form Users

W/

lolzcakes

NO

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

I think we're forgetting that titles are meant as a recognition that you did something.

Legendary Cartographer, for example, means you went everywhere and saw everything. Legendary Skill Hunter means you acquired all elite skills.

You should not, for example, be able to get Holy Lightbringer by cashing in Balthazar points. Holy Lightbringer is the title that shows you killed a shitload of servants of Abaddon. You don't kill any servants of Abaddon in PvP. Same with Legendary Spearmarshal. The Sunspears don't care what you were doing off in the Battle Isles, they care what you were doing to help them in Elona.

I know most people don't give a shit what the titles themselves actually mean, but reducing them even further in this way would be another unpleasant step in a direction I don't think the game should go.

Tharg

Tharg

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Massachusetts

Omega Glory

Mo/

Zahr Dalsk hit it on the head

Discussion closed

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

What do PvP battles have anything to do with PvE titles?

Nothing. Bad idea.

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Wel Zahr, you cleared your point and that are some good arguments.

and maybe we should leave it, as it was just a sugestion.

concerning tvalentijn, who are you to tell other to stop discuss about things.

So, pls don't

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Hijack!
Remove all titles. How about that.

Killerminds

Killerminds

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

For 5...21 seconds I CAN take damage

Union Of Light Form Users

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary View Post
Wel Zahr, you cleared your point and that are some good arguments.

and maybe we should leave it, as it was just a sugestion.

concerning tvalentijn, who are you to tell other to stop discuss about things.

So, pls don't
He's someone who hasn't been hit on the head.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

That would cmpletely defeat the purpose of many of those titles.


If you want sweet tooth points from Balthazat points, you exchange them for keys, then the keys for gold, and then the gold for sweets.

As for plot titles like Lightbringer, well, you MUST go through the plot and kill stuff or make quests to get them.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir View Post
Hijack!
Remove all titles. How about that.
I unironically support this.

reaper with no name

reaper with no name

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

FaZ

D/

As do I.

As for the idea itself, I find myself torn. On the one hand, I feel like this would be a terrible idea for titles like drunkard, which have no in-game effect and exist only to show off. Making these titles easier to get is a bad idea, because it diminishes their noteworthiness.

However, on the other hand, there are titles like lightbringer and kurzick/luxon which do offer mechanical benefits in-game. Some of them are minor, but others can be significant with the right skills (I'm looking at you, AoHM!). These titles take a long time to get if you're not a hardcore farmer, and one of the reasons farming is so rampant is because there's so much incentive to do so (these titles being one of them). Creating an alternative for these particular titles might be able to somewhat alleviate this. And honestly, I don't see how making these particular titles a little easier to get is bad (since they're not just for showing off; they actually make your character a little stronger).

But on my third, mutated hand which grows out of my left shoulder blade, I find I agree with Zahr that it doesn't make sense for the Order of Whispers to recognize you as a better lightbringer because you killed a bunch of luxons in AB.

This actually reminds me of an idea I had once to allow people to purchase faction/rep for titles that offer mechanical advantages (but not sweet tooth or other such titles) as a microtransaction so Anet could make more money and people who didn't want to grind could have their R10 Norn (for a high price, of course). I never bothered suggesting it, though, because I was sure the community wouldn't go for it (plus, I never really thought it was actually a good idea to begin with).

But anyway, by a vote of 2 hands out of 3, I have to render the verdict /notsigned.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

/notsigned

faction can already be indirectly used to increase other titles

Scythe O F Glory

Scythe O F Glory

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

New Jersey

League of Elite [LoE]

D/

While you're at it, make it so you can buy the points with cash, 1g per point.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

This idea is complete nonsense.
Faction is already -> money and money -> many titles. No need for any direct title point exchanges, that's really dumb.

The only thing that should be done with balth faction is a new title that would be based on total balth faction gained on the account. The title should have no max.
Oh, and while at it, a rebalance of ZQuest faction rewards is needed, full faction for just the basic quest with no bonus is pretty ridiculous overfarm.

IntrospectivePirate

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Evil Association of Trollers (EAT)

Me/Mo

I think this is just title grubbing again. Titles are simply huge grinds introduced as a prestige element into GW by anet. We do not need another reason for people to abuse pvp for the purpose of farming B-points.

Just an idea, but i must disagree. Get the titles the old fashion way.

-IntrospectivePirate

GW