Vanquishing 4man zones

Hi all, I'm currently trying to vanquish as many zones as I can in all 4 campaigns, but I've stumbled upon some 4man zones in proph, like dragon's gullet or diessa lowlands, which seem a lot harder than many other zones (atleast for me...).

I'm running the basic ZV dps build, which works fine, and I'm using sabway necros. The problem is, whenever my MM is out of minions, or for example when I zone in, there's no tank, and the group can hardly survive, even if I micro PS. The MM can also barely keep a consistant minion army, as they die fastly and there aren't that many corpses. Hydras also piss me off.

As a derv, how did you succeed to vanquish these kinds of zones? Did you use a tanking build? Or which heroes did you use? I could start from Yak's Bend too... Thx a lot for the advices!

I haven't done many 4 man tyria zones so you may need to use more area specific builds, but for nf/factions I used 3 of the discord heroes (resto + splinter bomber + prot).

For myself I used WS with save yourselves, so that my party could tank, and PS micro'ed on me was sufficient enough to tank. WS has better synergy with discord necro's than ZV, for obvious reasons. And I find that the discords are stronger overall than sabway.

I actually found all the 4 man zones i've done so far to be a walk in the park, it's just sometimes tough to get started because as you said, there are no minions up.

If you want template codes for the 4 bars I can always logon later and paste them here.

3 RoJ heroes would probably be pretty strong too i'd imagine, though i've only used those in 8 man areas.

EDIT: Also, how are you pulling? Always stay ahead with PS on, to draw most hard hitting spells - especially AoE. From taking hits you'll also get SY atleast half filled so that when you do backoff and they pile onto your group, you'll be able to get SY up quick enough to make sure no-one dies. There's also a copy of aegis on the discord prot necro, pre-cast that with the right timing to buy you even more time for SY.

TL;DR: My point is that with SY no-one will really die unless you aggro 2-3x your numbers with no minions.

Discord or RoJ should be enough for 4 man Tyrian areas, but you can always run down with 6 people from Yak's Bend and make a night out of it.

Thx for the quick reply! I'll try discordway, RoJ is a good idea too. Do any of you have a RoJ build for heroes? I'd also be interested in your 4 bars dan. I guess I'll be good to vanquish these zones once and for all, tbh i only need dragon's gullet, diessa and ascalon foothills.

hopefully your ebon rank and asuran ranks are maxed so you can take advantage of the +vs charr bonuses on EBSoH and EAS, plus there are hydra that love to blow themselves up with a nicely timed PI hex. These are pretty charr heavy areas, so I would highly recommend a keeping a charrslaying scythe in your inventory to switch to against charr groups and some charrslaying mods on the heros even though sabway doesn't do much weapon damage, but every little bit helps. Also, be sure you and all hero's weapons are customized for the +20% (in addition to the charrslaying +20% damage). Fortunately, most of the mobs in these areas are well spaced and set up for pulling as single mobs. There are a few grawl areas IIRC that can sometimes mob up on your party, but apart from that careful pulling and targeting the healer of the group will bode well for you. Hopefully you have a bow that you use to pull and keep MoW (or whichever sabway unit you designated as MM) flagged a bit back before engaging so minions don't spoil a nice pull. Also, corners/walls/terrain placement helps a lot as the minions will run forward and engage the mob while your heros hex away at them. If you have to, micro PS on yourself at this point since you are melee and try to get at the mob while they are battling the minions so you're able to capture the nice bonus damage from the scythe vs. mobs.

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