What happens when u die too many times?

Davy2385

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2009

Romania

The Imperial Guards Of Tournament

R/W

I asked people in my alliance chat, TIG, what happens when u die too many times, people said that ur character dies permanently, is that true? It's kinda scary... all the quests, leveling, etc I done with this char.. and he can die forever cuz he reached too many deaths? Please Reply! P.S: Also tell me the deaths limit if the thing it's true...

Best regards,

Davy

untouchable

untouchable

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Winnipeg, Mantioba Canada

Terra Noise[Zraw]

Mo/E

Very very untrue. I've died over 5k times on my monk.

drkn

drkn

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

Me/

nothing happens, got 3k+ deaths on my mesmer and nothing changes. you just lose your survivor title progress after the first death. and then - nothing.

Sight of Eagles

Sight of Eagles

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Dexter's Laboratory

[RR] Runners of the Rose

R/

Grenth rises from the earth, snatches your character while he/she is lying there helpless, then drags him/her off into the shadowy depths of the Underworld.

True story, pwomis!

Hahaha, really, nothing happens. Your character can die as many times as he/she pleases xD

ogre_jd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Canadia

W/

No. You can't die forever. The worst that will ever happen, other than having to start missions over if everyone in the party dies, is that you'll get the death penalty down to -60% (to your health and energy, making life very difficult) until the next time you get to town or manage to work it off. Other than that, and the Survivor title, death is meaningless, no matter how often you die.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

If it were true there would be no LDoAs in the game. Can't speak for others but mine took a bit over 115k to finish up. There is also some forum post floating around on here with some crazy guy that took the counter up over a mil just for kicks. As others have said, nothing happens.

My War

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2009

Farmers Of Europe

N/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reformed View Post
If it were true there would be no LDoAs in the game. Can't speak for others but mine took a bit over 115k to finish up. There is also some forum post floating around on here with some crazy guy that took the counter up over a mil just for kicks. As others have said, nothing happens.
yeah because all D/Cs and accidental [X] at the top page i have over 140K death on my LDoA

so yeah if that were true, any1 who went for LDoA would be screwed

and my war has over 6K death...death sometimes is just funner then resign.

Wyndy

Wyndy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

in the know

Chronic Chaos

N/Me

Too bad your guild gave you incorrect information. I would be cautious when taking their advice in the future!

Baku_The_Killer

Baku_The_Killer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Spain

My heros are my own guild.

W/

In real life happens that you get a VIP Pass to the graveyard.

In GW, happens nothing.

Medic

Medic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

CA

[DNR]

Mo/

I have over 169,000 deaths on my LDoA Mesmer.....

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008



Really don't think there is a limit.

prey monkie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2009

[OhNo] Mallyx and Friends

Mo/

maybe think about leaving ur alliance^^ otherwise just keep dying

King_GhOsT

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Canada

[oR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Davy2385 View Post
I asked people in my alliance chat, TIG, what happens when u die too many times, people said that ur character dies permanently, is that true? It's kinda scary... all the quests, leveling, etc I done with this char.. and he can die forever cuz he reached too many deaths? Please Reply! P.S: Also tell me the deaths limit if the thing it's true...

Best regards,

Davy
lol this is funniest thing ive heard all day.... so worth the read

007wood

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

Where you live

By Virtue Of Power

Mo/Me

Wow how does one die like 50k times =o

Kador

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

Probably from death leveling to get the LDoA title in pre-searing. Once you hit 16 there is no way to get XP without leveling up the monsters by letting them kill you, over and over and over.

SpiritSpammer

SpiritSpammer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by My War View Post
yeah because all D/Cs and accidental [X] at the top page i have over 140K death on my LDoA
Getting d/c counts as a death?

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Actually, if you die enough times, the counter goes over its limit and resets back at zero.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

This is what happens when you die.

Shadow of Cantha

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Come Over And Fix My Mic (kthx)

E/

d/c itself is not a death, but your character is still on the map and can be killed while you're trying to reconnect.

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
Actually, if you die enough times, the counter goes over its limit and resets back at zero.
Thy respect's the smart idea Shayne HaWeak. Thy has new way to obtain survivor. One must die 1,000,000,000,000 times I believe.

Beware... Death Farmers? Halloween laughs are your Spirit of Agony.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

if there is a limit, there is no way ur going to reach it through regular play :P it would be difficult enough trying to get it by farming deaths on purose

Eskimoz

Eskimoz

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2009

My house

W/

If you die too many times in game.... Samuel L. Jackson shows up and punches you through the head, he then stuffs you in a suitcase and runs off.

true story.

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eskimoz View Post
If you die too many times in game.... Samuel L. Jackson shows up and punches you through the head, he then stuffs you in a suitcase and runs off.

true story.
I can second this.

El Presidente

El Presidente

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Lookout Post #1, Andes Mountains

Custer Was Ganked [7th]

R/

They start taking away one of the 72 virgins for so many deaths...

Zebideedee

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

You come back as a a ghostly apparition in GW2 to help the newbies, but for God's sake don't tell them who their dad is

drunk n angry

drunk n angry

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2009

in a quiet little town that i love.

Ancient Dragoons [AGED]

W/

man your guild/alliance are some jerks to feed you crap like that and not even set you straight about it. the worst of things that can happen is if you are in hard mode and you get to 60dp as a party. then you are dead and are returned to the outpost from which you came from LOL. that is the worst thing that can happen.

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

Right, all the joking aside, there are two questions that this raised for me:

-is there an actual limit for the death counter? Integer? Long Integer? Does, in the fullness of time, the counter have a soft/hard limit? And if so, does the client crash or does the counter simply not work?

-what is the minimum number of deaths for a Legendary defender of Ascalon? Just how many times must the enemies kill you to level them up enough?

El Presidente

El Presidente

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Lookout Post #1, Andes Mountains

Custer Was Ganked [7th]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuris View Post
-is there an actual limit for the death counter? Integer? Long Integer? Does, in the fullness of time, the counter have a soft/hard limit? And if so, does the client crash or does the counter simply not work??
If there is a limit, I don't think anyone (maybe Anet) knows.

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Originally Posted by Iuris View Post
-what is the minimum number of deaths for a Legendary defender of Ascalon? Just how many times must the enemies kill you to level them up enough?
Players have reached LDoA with as little as 80k deaths using a 2 char setup (multi-accounts ftw). It could also take as many as 150k + deaths just using a gate monkey and going solo.

To the second part of your question ~ http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Death_leveling

You can estimate the number of your deaths it will take, depending on your level, for the Charr to reach the level you decide to kill them at.

A group with 2 Hunters does more damage than any other group make up. Your optimal setup would be all Hunters; however, I've had a group hit level 20 in as little as 4 hours (I'm lvl 19) or, worse case in 7 hours.

http://www.presearing.com/forum2/index.php?board=18.0 has many threads about a DL session.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

I don't know what the OP asked his guild/alliance, and I don't know what they told him. However, I can imagine the guild/alliance response may have been thinking in terms of HM. Once you reach 60% DP for the whole team, any additional death causes you to fail and only get an option to zone back to the last city. Although this isn't a 'permanent' death, it does mean you can't be rezed anymore until you have zoned.

Not sure, but possibly there was some misunderstanding for the questions and answers involved.

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

Well, then we already know short integers are out, meaning we can safely keep dieing for years to come

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

they lie, nothing happens, you just keep getting more and more deaths.

stella_wisha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

Island Of Pashar [Ruah]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chthon View Post
This is what happens when you die.
You just made my day.
I'mna go kill my GW characters now. . .

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuris View Post
-is there an actual limit for the death counter? Integer? Long Integer? Does, in the fullness of time, the counter have a soft/hard limit? And if so, does the client crash or does the counter simply not work?
Tis an interesting question, and maybe that's the answer for all those people that want Legendary survivor on their old characters! You just need to die 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 times and then the counter rests, and BAM! Legendary survivor!

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reformed View Post
If it were true there would be no LDoAs in the game. Can't speak for others but mine took a bit over 115k to finish up. There is also some forum post floating around on here with some crazy guy that took the counter up over a mil just for kicks. As others have said, nothing happens.
I saw that, too.

So, no limit to deaths. No deduction to your gold, no deduction to your level. No effect at all.

squiros

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

this is actually an interesting question - what happens when you die too many times. it depends; if anet is using ints, which most coders would:

Maximum unsigned long = 4,294,967,295

unsigned - since you can't die a negative number of times. so 4 trillion and change. if anet is using unsigned long, 32 bits will buy you 4+ trillion deaths, at which point, you will be eligible for your survival title again . otoh, if anet decided to use their 32 bits for a float, the game will lock your death count around 1e8 or 1e9. at this point, the last mantissa bit will be lost. that is to say, to a computer, 1000000 + .0000001 = 1000000. it is NOT 1000000.0000001. this is because the computer uses scientific notation to store it, and the .0000001 is so insignificant, that the precision is lost. if this is the case, even an infinite amount of deaths in 1 death increments won't earn you survivor back. of course, if anet is using a double float or some such wasteful element, it'll lock around a much higher number, but the same concept applies.

to speculate, if it is a long int, and you were able to die once a second every second, it would take some 136 years to do it.

rowdog

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2009

East Texas

Doggies Of Hate [DOH]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuris View Post
-is there an actual limit for the death counter? Integer? Long Integer? Does, in the fullness of time, the counter have a soft/hard limit? And if so, does the client crash or does the counter simply not work?
4,294,967,295 would be the highest value for an unsigned 32 bit integer. I would be suprised if Anet used anything else. Who knows what happens if you get there. Maybe you'll find an overflow, maybe you'll just find your deaths set to 1, maybe Samuel L. Jackson shows up and ...

On the other hand, my XP doesn't seem to be overflowing so maybe they're not relying directly on the native word length.

Edit: Um, sorry, I don't actually have 4 trillion XP, I suppose the beer made me loose 3 decimals, sigh. The real point is that there are libraries for dealing with very large numbers but the overhead probably wouldn't be worth it for a death counter, unless it's already in use throughout the game.

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

I have over 120,000 deaths on my War in PreSearing.