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BlackSephir

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:34 - 121

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Originally Posted by Fallen

So you're saying that if you have extra cash and more free time, than you could use drugs.

Sorry, but that's not an excuse either.

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You will always have an excuse when using drugs.

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You will always have an excuse when using drugs.

That's funny, because it seems like you're the one who's high around here.
People DO NOT need an excuse to drink, smoke or take drugs. It's their will and life. They can if they want to.

Cracko

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:34 - 122

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Originally Posted by Fallen

Yes you could. But it's not an excuse. Do I have to keep repeating myself?

You will always have an excuse when using drugs.

thats like saying you need an excuse for playing guild wars.

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:41 - 123

Guild Wars and drugs are two completely different things.

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:44 - 124

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

I like how people who are against soft drugs (or even hard drugs) don't have anything against alcohol and cigarettes.
It helps me recognize who's a huge inconsistent hypocrite.

Yes, let's compare smoking/drinking to taking a class A drug. Good idea.

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:46 - 125

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Originally Posted by Fallen

Guild Wars and drugs are two completely different things.

Morally, perhaps, but as a recreational tool for enjoyment they serve similar purpose.

With players murdering each other in real life over in game obsessions/disagreements/scams etc.. (have a google to see) addiction to online gaming can be just as damaging as hardcore drug use.

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Originally Posted by ~ Dan ~

Yes, let's compare smoking/drinking to taking a class A drug. Good idea.

Any drug in moderation is relatively harmless. Smoking is much more harming to your health, much more addictive, and 100 times more dangerous than, say, taking eustacy at a club night once a month, as it's entirely legal!

Same goes for binge drinking.

It all depends on your will and self-control. just because Alcohol is legal, doesn't mean that drinking too much of it every night and having it affect your life in a negative way makes you any better than any other kind of drug addict.

BlackSephir

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:49 - 126

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Originally Posted by ~ Dan ~

Yes, let's compare smoking/drinking to taking a class A drug. Good idea.

Yeah, smoking doesn't kill. Alcohol doesn't make you a dangerous driver and even batshit insane. No sir.

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:51 - 127

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Yeah, smoking doesn't kill. Alcohol doesn't make you a dangerous driver and even batshit insane. No sir.

True. Marijuana does less damage to your health then smoking, as in life and death.

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:52 - 128

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Yeah, smoking doesn't kill. Alcohol doesn't make you a dangerous driver and even batshit insane. No sir.

Cigarettes kill over the course of decades, the moment you inject too much heroine into your system you die.

Alcohol you die from impaired vision, or when you drink insanely copious amounts, and you can't compare the level of retarded ness from alcohol to the superman powers of coke.

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:54 - 129

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Yeah, smoking doesn't kill. Alcohol doesn't make you a dangerous driver and even batshit insane. No sir.

There's a reason why certain things are legal, and some are not. And if you believe it's just because the government illegalise it since they can't make money off it, you're just silly.

I love all of these people justifying why people can take drugs, and how it's their choice blahblah, yet we are wrong for justifying why we look down on them.

They made a choice, they should live with the consequences. Which is ultimately death. They made wrong choices and screwed their life up, I didn't. Therefore, i'm better & smarter, and I couldn't give a shit if you or others disagree.

stanzhao

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:56 - 130

people are only against drugs because the government says their bad. if alcohol and smoking were banned people would have the same opinion. but because theyre not, its okay to drink and smoke.your ok if you go out and have a few a beers,

but if your caught in your room smoking a little weed, not hurting anyone... your scum... apparently. some drugs are less harmful then alcohol and cigarettes. but its just because your told not to.

this whole issue is a shit storm of an argument anways. as its all down to personal opinion. here in the UK weed was put down to a class C drug. which meant you could have a small amount for personal use, but you werent allowed to be caught having a large amount, or selling.

so if the law says its ok... am i now allowed to smoke weed in everyone's opinion? or are ignorant dick heads just gonna swirl it all in the same thing because theyre eyes are too shut to look at the bigger picture.

you cant just push it all aside and ignore it all. and anyone who you think may have taken some drugs shouldnt be considered a common theif and is gonna cause havoc upon society... grow a brain people...

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:56 - 131

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Originally Posted by IronSheik

Cigarettes kill over the course of decades, the moment you inject too much heroine into your system you die.

Alcohol you die from impaired vision, or when you drink insanely copious amounts, and you can't compare the level of retarded ness from alcohol to the superman powers of coke.

Alcohol and cigarettes have different effects on different people. One cigarette could give you lung cancer and kill you by blocking one specific part of the lung, causing a cell mutation and then the cancer spreads.
Every person is affected differently by alcohol so copious amounts differs per person tbh.

BlackSephir

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:57 - 132

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Originally Posted by IronSheik

Cigarettes kill over the course of decades, the moment you inject too much heroine into your system you die.

And let's not forget that the smoke is disgusting to every non-smoker around you. Whoopie for non-drugs

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Alcohol you die from impaired vision, or when you drink insanely copious amounts, and you can't compare the level of retarded ness from alcohol to the superman powers of coke.

Yes, alcohol poisoning. SO much different than dying because you injected too much. Totally different things.
Oh, and also don't forget that drugs like marijuana are used in medicine, to help people.
So evil.

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I love all of these people justifying why people can take drugs, and how it's their choice blahblah, yet we are wrong for justifying why we look down on them.

Cute, do you also look down on people who have an occasional drink or smoke?
Or how about you? Do you smoke cigarretes or drink alcohol?

stanzhao

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:58 - 133

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Originally Posted by IronSheik

Cigarettes kill over the course of decades, the moment you inject too much heroine into your system you die.

Alcohol you die from impaired vision, or when you drink insanely copious amounts, and you can't compare the level of retarded ness from alcohol to the superman powers of coke.

classic example of how ignorant people can be... somone talked about smoking weed, and you compare it to heroine... you cant just throw it all in one bowl and take the moral high ground...

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:00 - 134

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Originally Posted by ~ Dan ~

There's a reason why certain things are legal, and some are not. And if you believe it's just because the government illegalise it since they can't make money off it, you're just silly.

I love all of these people justifying why people can take drugs, and how it's their choice blahblah, yet we are wrong for justifying why we look down on them.

They made a choice, they should live with the consequences. Which is ultimately death. They made wrong choices and screwed their life up, I didn't. Therefore, i'm better & smarter, and I couldn't give a shit if you or others disagree.

The reason that it is their own life and their own choice is perfectly valid (it is their own life). But for some reason you are under the deluded idea that you are above drug takers, please oh Great one, tell me what makes your life worth more than theirs.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:00 - 135

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Originally Posted by ~ Dan ~

They made a choice, they should live with the consequences. Which is ultimately death.

So basically everyone that does drugs dies of it?
fail post is fail.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:02 - 136

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Originally Posted by Short

But for some reason you are under the deluded idea that you are above drug takers, please oh Great one, tell me what makes your life worth more than theirs.

I thought I already did?

- I'm not the one stealing to fund my habit.
- I'm not the one needing drugs to have fun on a night out.
- I'm not the one killing myself.
- I'm the one who has will power & self esteem.
- I'm the one who respects myself and my life enough to make the right choices and not RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO it up.

That's why.

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Originally Posted by Vdawg1337

So basically everyone that does drugs dies of it?
fail post is fail.

Yes, unless they take counselling. People here are justifying drug use as a way to deal with a shitty childhood etc. Maybe they should've taken the counselling option in the first place to help deal with it.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:04 - 137

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I thought I already did?

- I'm not the one stealing to fund my habit.
- I'm not the one needing drugs to have fun on a night out.
- I'm not the one killing myself.
- I'm the one who has will power & self esteem.
- I'm the one who respects myself and my life enough to make the right choices and not RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO it up.

That's why.

What the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is wrong with you. How does that make you better than them? They can live their life how they choose, who gave you the right to judge them. Take your head out of your arse, seriously. AND STOP STEREOTYPING.

stanzhao

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:04 - 138

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Originally Posted by ~ Dan ~

blah blah blah.

you are stupid...

Short

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:06 - 139

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Yes, unless they take counselling. People here are justifying drug use as a way to deal with a shitty childhood etc. Maybe they should've taken the counselling option in the first place to help deal with it.

Lol? I've taken drugs in hospital, ups they helped me live.
People take drugs once, oh wait...THEY DON'T DIE OF IT, whole argument disproved?

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:07 - 140

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Originally Posted by Short

Alcohol and cigarettes have different effects on different people. One cigarette could give you lung cancer and kill you by blocking one specific part of the lung, causing a cell mutation and then the cancer spreads.
Every person is affected differently by alcohol so copious amounts differs per person tbh.

Maybe...but you could say the same about peanuts.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:07 - 141

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Originally Posted by Short

What the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is wrong with you.

Let's turn that around shall we: You're justifying drug use. So what the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is wrong with you?

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They can live their life how they choose, who gave you the right to judge them.

That's like saying a serial killer can live their life the way they choose, killing people. Therefore they are equal to any moral person. Stupid logic. Stupid.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:07 - 142

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Originally Posted by ~ Dan ~

I thought I already did?

- I'm not the one stealing to fund my habit.
- I'm not the one needing drugs to have fun on a night out.
- I'm not the one killing myself.
- I'm the one who has will power & self esteem.
- I'm the one who respects myself and my life enough to make the right choices and not RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO it up.

That's why.

/facepalm

Less ego please. I'm out of this conversation, people have too big of egos.

BlackSephir

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:09 - 143

Two questions to Dan, Crismo and IronSheik.
Do you smoke cigarettes and/or drink alcohol?

Short

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:10 - 144

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Let's turn that around shall we: You're justifying drug use. So what the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is wrong with you?

That's like saying a serial killer can live their life the way they choose, killing people. Therefore they are equal to any moral person. Stupid logic. Stupid.

I am not advocating drug use btw, just so you know. Just saying it is their life to do with what they will.

A serial killer can live his life the way he chooses, killing people. Sure he can, doesn't mean I approve. He is still equal, as a human being and a person to all of us.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:10 - 145

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Do you smoke cigarettes

Never have, never will.

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and/or drink alcohol?

Only when I go out, and responsibly. You'll never see me needing my stomach pumped.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:11 - 146

Dan, thinking your better than someone (or better known as pride) is one of the seven deadly sins, something that drug use doesnt fall under. I would of thought you've learned that in your daily bible school lessons.

Cracko

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:11 - 147

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IizSd_USCn4

Is alchohol worse than estacy?

BlackSephir

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:13 - 148

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Only when I go out, and responsibly. You'll never see me needing my stomach pumped.

Oooh, then I guess I'm morally superior to you. Because I don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't do drugs. I'm perfect, right? And obviously a better person than you, by your own standards.
And no, no, no, no. I don't care if you're responsible with it. After all you don't give a rat's ass if druggies are responsible with their drugs, right?

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:13 - 149

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Originally Posted by Short

Lol? I've taken drugs in hospital, ups they helped me live.
People take drugs once, oh wait...THEY DON'T DIE OF IT, whole argument disproved?

Thats a completley different matter. If someone is going to die without them an exception is going to be made. since people die as a result of getting addicted to drugs, not from using them once.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:15 - 150

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Originally Posted by Crimso

Thats a completley different matter. If someone is going to die without them an exception is going to be made. since people die as a result of getting addicted to drugs, not from using them once.

He should have made said that he was talking about addicted people then. And not all addicts die of it either, so lol to you.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:19 - 151

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I thought I already did?

- I'm not the one stealing to fund my habit.
- I'm not the one needing drugs to have fun on a night out.
- I'm not the one killing myself.
- I'm the one who has will power & self esteem.
- I'm the one who respects myself and my life enough to make the right choices and not RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO it up.

You have no clue what you're talking about. You can't really legitimately comment on the use of something which it appears you have no experience with. Ever smoked weed? Ever talked shit about people who do? (obviously) See the disconnect here? You think the government actually has valid reasons for which drugs are classified a certain way? Weed was illegalized because it supposedly made black people go on killing sprees. People who think ecstasy is in the same league harm-wise as other "hard drugs" are the sad result of propoganda (see the UK NHS study on the topic). So if you don't know what you're talking about, you can drag your self-righteous clueless ass out of this thread.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:19 - 152

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Two questions to Dan, Crismo and IronSheik.
Do you smoke cigarettes and/or drink alcohol?

I don't smoke and the only times I drink alcohol are Birthdays, Christmas & on the New Year.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:19 - 153

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Oooh, then I guess I'm morally superior to you. Because I don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't do drugs. I'm perfect, right? And obviously a better person than you, by your own standards.

Neither of us have health problems. And obviously neither of us have something we rely on and would be immoral in order to fuel it. So no.

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After all you don't give a rat's ass if druggies are responsible with their drugs, right?

How the hell is there a responsible way of doing drugs? It's an addiction

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Originally Posted by Mr Emu

rant for drugs weeee

Oh, so because I'm smart enough to say no to taking drugs, it means I don't understand them & shouldn't comment. You silly retard.

BlackSephir

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:22 - 154

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Originally Posted by ~ Dan ~

Neither of us have health problems. And obviously neither of us have something we rely on and would be immoral in order to fuel it. So no.
How the hell is there a responsible way of doing drugs? It's an addiction

And every person who does drugs has health problems? And has to rely on them?
What makes you think that every person that ever did drugs is now addicted to them?

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I don't smoke and the only times I drink alcohol are Birthdays, Christmas & on the New Year.

Still worse than me, I guess I can put you where you put druggies.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:23 - 155

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Neither of us have health problems. And obviously neither of us have something we rely on and would be immoral in order to fuel it. So no.

How the hell is there a responsible way of doing drugs? It's an addiction

Oh, so because I'm smart enough to say no to taking drugs, it means I don't understand them & shouldn't comment. You silly retard.

You absolute retard. Not everyone who does drugs gets addicted. L2life, you can do drugs once a week and not die of it or be addicted and need it.
And yes, you don't know something properly until you have experienced it. And even then, it will not be the same as what someone else has been through.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:26 - 156

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

And every person who does drugs has health problems? And has to rely on them?

Sooner or later. They might do ecstacy once a week, but they're still relying on it that one night to have a good time.

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What makes you think that every person that ever did drugs is now addicted to them?

Well if they were on a downward spiral doing hard shit, counselling would get them out of it. So again, don't use bullshit excuses like "they had a bad childhood therefore they're fine to turn to drugs" because counselling and stuff is there in the first place for that.

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Still worse than me, I guess I can put you where you put druggies.

I honestly couldn't care less what you think of me. Whereas apparently druggies do care how they're viewed?

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Originally Posted by Short

L2life, you can do drugs once a week and not die of it or be addicted and need it.

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They might do ecstacy once a week, but they're still relying on it that one night to have a good time.

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And yes, you don't know something properly until you have experienced it. And even then, it will not be the same as what someone else has been through.

Here we go again, your argument that they had a hard time therefore they can justify making stupid choices. It's pathetic.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:29 - 157

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Sooner or later. They might do ecstacy once a week, but they're still relying on it that one night to have a good time.

Well if they were on a downward spiral doing hard shit, counselling would get them out of it. So again, don't use bullshit excuses like "they had a bad childhood therefore they're fine to turn to drugs" because counselling and stuff is there in the first place for that.

I honestly couldn't care less what you think of me. Whereas apparently druggies do care how they're viewed?

Relying on it? I know people who take drugs and can still have a good time without them.

Counselling doesn't always get people out of drugs btw.

If you don't care how you're viewed does it not count as NPA if I insult you as much as I like?

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:30 - 158

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Originally Posted by Short

If you don't care how you're viewed does it not count as NPA if I insult you as much as I like?

Go for it, let's see what you've got.

BlackSephir

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:31 - 159

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Originally Posted by ~ Dan ~

Sooner or later.

I'm tired of your assumptions. Prove it. Prove it that there were no people who did drugs occasionally and had no health problems because of it.

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Well if they were on a downward spiral doing hard shit, counselling would get them out of it. So again, don't use bullshit excuses like "they had a bad childhood therefore they're fine to turn to drugs" because counselling and stuff is there in the first place for that.

I don't know if you're intentionally misunderstanding or...
I asked why do you think that the second they use a drug they become addicted to it.

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10 Oct 2009 at 18:31 - 160

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Here we go again, your argument that they had a hard time therefore they can justify making stupid choices. It's pathetic.

I am not arguing that they had a hard time, I am taling about life in general. You will NEVER know what someones elses life is like and you will never have the exact same experience doing the same thing as they have or having the same thing done to you as they have.