Since right now z-coins are the only way to get the good equipment packs to hold armor and the only way to get them is to grind it out slowly with the quests (can't buy them from players), I thought it would be a nice alternative to have a vendor who sells them.
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10gp / copper
500gp / silver
5k / gold
Some of the items you could get from the zaishen traders would be equivalent to the gold cost to acquire them normally and others might need to be tweaked up or down.
A zaishen coin vendor
Winterclaw
Chronos the Defiler
no...
You can buy equipment packs I think, and why would we need something like this implemented.
You can buy small packs from vendors, buy larger ones from players, and the quests/rewards offer a time-sink until GW2.
EZ-Mode suggestions should be deleted on sight :/
You can buy equipment packs I think, and why would we need something like this implemented.
You can buy small packs from vendors, buy larger ones from players, and the quests/rewards offer a time-sink until GW2.
EZ-Mode suggestions should be deleted on sight :/
Winterclaw
Players want way too much most of the time because it takes so long to get them. Also when you trade between players, the money is still in the economy making it worthless. Add a 75k money sink that most people who have money would get and others would save up for and you've just helped the economy by that much.
Captain Bulldozer
It really doesn't take the long to get the good stuff by just doing the quests. I have already gotten 7 Heavy packs jst by playing a few hours a day. I have 10 chars, so whenever a particularly easy quest (like a time for Heroes for example) comes up, I just slam through it on all 10 chars. I usually can get a heavy pack every week or 2 if I try (some times I blow it off) and that's entirely without doing PvP quests or resigning because I'm red.
So in short, there is absolutely no reason why there should be a vendor, especially not at the incredibly low prices you suggest.
So in short, there is absolutely no reason why there should be a vendor, especially not at the incredibly low prices you suggest.
betrayal
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Originally Posted by Captain Bulldozer
It really doesn't take the long to get the good stuff by just doing the quests. I have already gotten 7 Heavy packs jst by playing a few hours a day. I have 10 chars, so whenever a particularly easy quest (like a time for Heroes for example) comes up, I just slam through it on all 10 chars. I usually can get a heavy pack every week or 2 if I try (some times I blow it off) and that's entirely without doing PvP quests or resigning because I'm red.
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Vdawg1337
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Originally Posted by betrayal
I agree, it doesn't take long to get heavy pack at all. Not to mention people will start buying zkeys through vendor (coins from vendor so..).
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If people use coins to start buying zkeys than the price of them will be even lower, /notsigned b/c the economy in Guild Wars is allready effed up enough.
Operative 14
How would buying Z-keys at 5k from the vendor lower their price? If anything it would raise it because the price would be set, like lockpicks are.
On one hand I'm not the kind of person that likes to grind for this stuff. I agree with this suggestion simply because the idea of having to get all of those Z-coins is an idea I absolutely abhor. I would like the idea of simply buying it - for gold - through playing the way I want to instead of playing the missions that have been deemed worthy. I don't like having to grind for yet another currency because the old currency was tossed aside. Worse yet, the Z-coins actually hurt the economy because they don't take gold out of circulation, they actually add to it because of the play associate with getting them, so it's compounding the issue it was trying to work around in the first place.
On the other hand I can see the idea of wanting to keep the heavy equipment packs rare. The idea of just going to a merchant and buying one seems a little anticlimactic (for lack of a better term). And also, trying to keep them rare so that the extra storage doesn't strain the servers.
I have to agree with this idea, but I think the prices would need to be adjusted to a higher level. Or, better yet, make the Z-coins (or the larger equipment packs for that matter) craftable objects from some obscure collector.
/signed
On one hand I'm not the kind of person that likes to grind for this stuff. I agree with this suggestion simply because the idea of having to get all of those Z-coins is an idea I absolutely abhor. I would like the idea of simply buying it - for gold - through playing the way I want to instead of playing the missions that have been deemed worthy. I don't like having to grind for yet another currency because the old currency was tossed aside. Worse yet, the Z-coins actually hurt the economy because they don't take gold out of circulation, they actually add to it because of the play associate with getting them, so it's compounding the issue it was trying to work around in the first place.
On the other hand I can see the idea of wanting to keep the heavy equipment packs rare. The idea of just going to a merchant and buying one seems a little anticlimactic (for lack of a better term). And also, trying to keep them rare so that the extra storage doesn't strain the servers.
I have to agree with this idea, but I think the prices would need to be adjusted to a higher level. Or, better yet, make the Z-coins (or the larger equipment packs for that matter) craftable objects from some obscure collector.
/signed
HawkofStorms
/notsigned x a million
This would defeat the entire point of having z-quests.
This would defeat the entire point of having z-quests.
Darth The Xx
Sounds like somebody can't be assed actually doing the quests and would rather farm to get the coins way faster, and easier.
Also gives advantages to the already rich people, where by making the coins untradable everybody is on equal footing.
/notsigned
Also gives advantages to the already rich people, where by making the coins untradable everybody is on equal footing.
/notsigned
Shayne Hawke
I would love to have something like this, because it would mean that I wouldn't have to waste my time trudging through each Z-Quest that comes up every day.
And for that exact reason, /notsigned. Z-Quests would be rendered insignificant.
And for that exact reason, /notsigned. Z-Quests would be rendered insignificant.
Zahr Dalsk
/signed for good idea.
upier
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Sounds like somebody can't be assed actually doing the quests and would rather farm to get the coins way faster, and easier.
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I approve of this idea.
I want more packs, but if ZQuests stay the only way to get them from a NPC then I'll just wait till their price drops and I'll buy them in Kama. There is really only so many times I can kill the same boss or do the missions in HM before I get bored out of my mind.
MagmaRed
Upier, that is when you stop playing PvE and move to PvP. People who have done things so much they dont' want to do them anymore shouldn't be doing them at all. If you want things in the game, there are options for getting them. Either earn your zcoins yourself, or buy what you want to trade the zcoins for from another player. The economy already sucks, this would make it swallow as well.
XMadness
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Originally Posted by Operative 14
How would buying Z-keys at 5k from the vendor lower their price? If anything it would raise it because the price would be set, like lockpicks are.
On one hand I'm not the kind of person that likes to grind for this stuff. I agree with this suggestion simply because the idea of having to get all of those Z-coins is an idea I absolutely abhor. I would like the idea of simply buying it - for gold - through playing the way I want to instead of playing the missions that have been deemed worthy. I don't like having to grind for yet another currency because the old currency was tossed aside. Worse yet, the Z-coins actually hurt the economy because they don't take gold out of circulation, they actually add to it because of the play associate with getting them, so it's compounding the issue it was trying to work around in the first place. On the other hand I can see the idea of wanting to keep the heavy equipment packs rare. The idea of just going to a merchant and buying one seems a little anticlimactic (for lack of a better term). And also, trying to keep them rare so that the extra storage doesn't strain the servers. I have to agree with this idea, but I think the prices would need to be adjusted to a higher level. Or, better yet, make the Z-coins (or the larger equipment packs for that matter) craftable objects from some obscure collector. /signed |
Yawgmoth
This would completely kill the point of Z-Quests as gold is just much easier to get in other ways. And if the prices were higher then just nobody would use them. It's a lose-lose situation = plain bad suggestion.
If you don't like the z-quests all of the rewards are available on the free market. This is not a good way to add goldsinks.
/notsigned
If you don't like the z-quests all of the rewards are available on the free market. This is not a good way to add goldsinks.
/notsigned
Karate Jesus
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Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Since right now z-coins are the only way to get the good equipment packs to hold armor and the only way to get them is to grind it out slowly with the quests (can't buy them from players), I thought it would be a nice alternative to have a vendor who sells them.
At: 10gp / copper 500gp / silver 5k / gold Some of the items you could get from the zaishen traders would be equivalent to the gold cost to acquire them normally and others might need to be tweaked up or down. |
5k per elite tome. Also awesome.
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by XMadness
I don't think he was refering to juzt Z Coins. Prices in tomes would drop, Z Keys will be dropped and anything else affected by the Z Coins will drop.
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The reason zoins can't be traded is to prevent the rich in the game from cornering the market like they do with ectos and z-keys. Zoins allow the "GW poor" to get decent rewards and work on reputation titles via the quests.
Evil Eye
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75k for a Rainbow Phoenix. Awesome.
5k per elite tome. Also awesome. |
Karate Jesus
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Originally Posted by Evil Eye
2 gold coins times 5k = 5 k? whatttttttttttt
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Eragon Zarroc
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
/notsigned x a million
This would defeat the entire point of having z-quests. |
Vdawg1337
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Originally Posted by Operative 14
How would buying Z-keys at 5k from the vendor lower their price? If anything it would raise it because the price would be set, like lockpicks are.
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Marty Silverblade
I like how the z-quest system works. When you actually get a Heavy pack yourself it's somewhat of an acheivement.
/notsigned.
/notsigned.
MMSDome
It is the way it is for a reason.
Need More Donuts
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It is the way it is for a reason.
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/notsigned
neoezekiel
/signed
It does take way too long for average players to get anything significant with zquests my heavy equipment pack took me over 4 months of doing zquests to get largely due to not being able to grind through the quests every day. even when doing the PvP quests it quickly became a grind sheerly to finish the quest the first time. A zcoin vendor would not only be a great money sink to stabilize the economy and standardize pricing for non vendor items, it would also reduce some of the spamming in major cities from people trying to sell the crap they got from the traders.
It does take way too long for average players to get anything significant with zquests my heavy equipment pack took me over 4 months of doing zquests to get largely due to not being able to grind through the quests every day. even when doing the PvP quests it quickly became a grind sheerly to finish the quest the first time. A zcoin vendor would not only be a great money sink to stabilize the economy and standardize pricing for non vendor items, it would also reduce some of the spamming in major cities from people trying to sell the crap they got from the traders.
Cuilan
I like playing with pugs, guildies, and friends. No want.
Ccat
Yay ctrl+alt+delete the only form of true pugging that is in the game!
Soooo not signed. Personally I miss the good ole days.
Soooo not signed. Personally I miss the good ole days.
upier
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Originally Posted by MagmaRed
Upier, that is when you stop playing PvE and move to PvP. People who have done things so much they dont' want to do them anymore shouldn't be doing them at all. If you want things in the game, there are options for getting them. Either earn your zcoins yourself, or buy what you want to trade the zcoins for from another player. The economy already sucks, this would make it swallow as well.
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If I feel like it, I don't mind doing certain content in PvE. If I am in the mood to do Mission X, I'll do it. If a friend needs Mission Y, I'll do it.
The problem with ZQuests is that by being able to have only 3 quests active, I need to be doing certain content if I want the Packs. And most of the time, that's not the content I want to be doing.
And then I don't.
So additional options to obtain these packs would certainly be a nice addition!
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Originally Posted by Cuilan
I like playing with pugs, guildies, and friends. No want.
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Right?
Cuilan
Well, if you don't like zaishen bounties or missions with others, don't ? You can buy the fancy stuff from other players if you badly want them.
kazjun
Only things worth getting with the zcoins are bags, which you can buy from players if you really want. Nothing else worth using zcoins on. So don't really see a need for this. If you're going for a new trader, I'd rather a weapons mod/inscription trader or such.