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beagle warrior

beagle warrior

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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hey so ive been playing around with a new build and would like to know any thoughts you guys might have on it. The build is based upon the whole "mandragor Synergy" idea. Ive done a few VQ's in nightfall and it seem to work pretty well (granted they were vanquishes in Kourna which is pretty easy no matter what).


One thing i noticed, is that the mesmer still has e-management problems. I was thinking about adding in GoLE instead of ancestor's visage but i wasnt sure if Gwen would be able to use 2 glyphs properly. And for myself i use a zealous +5e sword to keep up with teinai's and crystal wave (these skills should be used once you think that the foe has all conditions)

So any advice or comments would be appreciated, Thx.

Braxton619

Braxton619

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

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Ele skills on warrior? Lol

Overview: The builds are OK. I have fun with a RoJ monk, N/RT healer, and nuker.

7/10

raddish

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2009

The Rejected Sins [SOF]

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the heroes builds look like they could do some nice damage, especially if you threw in epidemic for mass condition spreading. But i have to agree with Leet. ele skills on any proffession other than ele or mes tend to fail because u cant cope with the energy for it.

beagle warrior

beagle warrior

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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Originally Posted by raddish View Post
epidemic for mass condition spreading
fevered dreams already spreads the conditions

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Originally Posted by raddish View Post
tend to fail because u cant cope with the energy for it. Its not like im using the ele skills on recharge, or right after each other. I use them when either the foes are nicely balled up and id get some great aoe dmg, or when i need some spike dmg (e.g. a monk when there are two monks in the group, or a boss). and the combination of the zealous sword and the TPIY paragon make up for the energy easily

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Ele skills on a warrior.... Not commenting on that.

For the other bars... Well... If they work for you in-game then I guess that should be enough, right? The key is to have fun with what you run, NOT run skills that others tell you to run because they said they are "pro".



~LeNa~

beagle warrior

beagle warrior

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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ok so i got rid of Teinai's crystals on my build (i kept crystal wave) i realized that two of the same skill just wasnt worth it. I know many of you think that even having one is not worth it but i am convinced that it is. To replace Teinai's i put in sun and moon slash.

On the necro i took out splinter weapon and ancestors rage, and put in SoH and Judge's insight. I have not yet decided if i should change it back or not.

And as far as drunken master, i still have 6.5k min to go on my drunkard title so yes i am drinking to meet the req. once im done with that mayb i will use flail and fit in rush as a cancel instead of S&MS

Anyone else have any opinions that havent been mentioned yet?

beagle warrior

beagle warrior

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also been working on a 6 hero version

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

1. For spreading conditions, EC is better than FD, especially if the job is left to a hero.

2. Not all conditions are worth spreading. Degen is weak in PvE. Blind, dazed, deep wound, and to, a lesser degree, cripple and cracked armor are worth spreading. (Weakness would make the list if it weren't redundant with blind.) Other conditions are not. You'd be better served to use only one or two builds to provide the strong conditions, and use the remaining space for strong non-condition-focused builds.

Meridon

Meridon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Funny Business Inc [FBI]

I use this bar for my fevered dreams hero:

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I don't find the spec into 16 illusion worth it. With conditions being spammed anyway, your target should be dazed permanently. Also, the bonus damage from Fragility is nice at 16, but doesn't feel worth sacrificing 75 health.

I found Ether Signet the way to go when it comes to managing this guy's energy. It's simple, yet effective. I put blurred vision on mostly because it's likely that the hero will miss putting on AoE blind through Fevered Dreams. This is because the combo is relatively tricky for the hero to use, it requires three skills to be activated in the correct sequence. Blur provides an easy and cheap addition versus melee.

Shadow Own

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Holland

Mantle Assasin (MA)

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the builds are fine, but i'd go with hundred blades or warriors endurance over cripslash, cripple and bleeding arent brilliant in Pve
i think WE with dismember, body blow, exec strike, whirlwind, crystal wave, (rush, flail) or (drunken master,alcohol,rez/fgj)

marmar256

marmar256

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2008

Australia

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The war build isnt too bad, Id go with battle rage.
Double adren so that you can spam sever and gash more often.
and that elite may finally get a use
I like the concept i might have a play with it

Kenzo Skunk

Kenzo Skunk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

Cripple slash in pve? Drop it for something more useful. Even Charge is better option in my opinion.

damkel

damkel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

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like the idea very much.

Considered using an Earth Shaker build with apply poison? Could help you keep enemies balled up for more efficient fevered dreams spreading conditions.

I know you want Crystal wave for nice AoE and removal of conditions to trigger fragility, but Earth Shaker might offer more utility.

beagle warrior

beagle warrior

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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ok so, ive decided to switch the woh healer to a n/rt healer with icy veins. I put virulence back on the necro and FD on the mes. I tried out EC but i just didnt like it as much. Also the daze from the FD is very useful. I am not sure which direction to go with the para hero, i want to keep blazing finale, ToF, and a quick use shout but im not sure what else to use. Also i havent given much thought to my own build yet but i might change it later. So here is the current state of my build...


Edit: and as far as virulence... i've kept it because i like the spikeablitity of it and the fact that it can be used almost instantly when entering a fight

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

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Originally Posted by beagle warrior View Post
i didnt think that i needed any more healing then what is there so i figured id add some more damage, and IV can put out some decent dmg.
IV is crap. Really, really crap.

The armour boosts in HM reduce the damage done by IV to rather pitiful amounts. Cracked armour will help but not enough to merit small burts of AoE cold damage from a healer's elite skill.
Besides, I don't think you have enough healing.

I recommend dropping your current monk for a E/Mo ER Ele:
11+1+2 ES, 10 Prot and Healing
Ether Renewal, Aura of Restoration, Infuse Health, Prot Spirit, Spirit Bond, Patient Spirit, Dwayna's Kiss, Aegis
Feel free to drop Patient Spirit for something else (or DKiss).

I don't much like N/Rts, but I usually manage on that ER Ele bar and the healer henchmen, so a standard N/Rt healer should suffice with that.


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Originally Posted by beagle warrior View Post
Edit: and as far as virulence... i've kept it because i like the spikeablitity of it and the fact that it can be used almost instantly when entering a fight Unless Virulence is used after Fevered Dreams, it's more or less wasted and only the disease will be spread around.
The only useful condition it inflicts is Weakness - just take Enfeeble or Enfeebling Blood.


I also note you have 6 heroes, but only one human bar specified.
I would recommend the 2nd human either be a AP-MoP caller or replace the FD Mes as a N/Me (or Me/E, which will also work).

beagle warrior

beagle warrior

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis View Post
IV is crap. Really, really crap.

The armour boosts in HM reduce the damage done by IV to rather pitiful amounts. Cracked armour will help but not enough to merit small burts of AoE cold damage from a healer's elite skill.
Besides, I don't think you have enough healing.
i still believe that this is the best elite for that spot right now, if i find that i dont have enough healing then i will switch it out for Xinrae's weapon.

Quote: Originally Posted by Xenomortis View Post
I recommend dropping your current monk for a E/Mo ER Ele:
11+1+2 ES, 10 Prot and Healing
Ether Renewal, Aura of Restoration, Infuse Health, Prot Spirit, Spirit Bond, Patient Spirit, Dwayna's Kiss, Aegis
Feel free to drop Patient Spirit for something else (or DKiss). i did think about using a bar like this, but i wasnt sure how well it would work without constant upkeep of ER, but if you tell me that it works effectively i will try it out.