Black Dye usage?

Absolute Destiny

Absolute Destiny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Oklahoma City

Forgotten Realms [FR]

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A trip through the Screenshot Exposition led to this curiosity of mine:

What do you do with your Black Dyes?

I've seen people use them on Krytan armor (Pre-Searing), basic Max armors, Elite max armors, Prestige armors...

And then there are those who NEVER use them, instead selling them for massive amounts of gold.

I've been stockpiling mine for years, along with white dye, because I still haven't gotten an armor set I felt was valuable enough to warrant using the most expensive dyes.
Instead, I've used silver dye combinations on Elite max armors.

Though after getting EOTN, and the massive amount of work required to be ABLE to buy the max armors (to say nothing of the crafting materials and price), I think these warrant usage of my black dye.


What about ya'll?

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

I hardly ever use mine, and when I do, I use them in dye combinations on prestige armor with other color dyes. Plain black is boring.

Introverted Dimensions

Introverted Dimensions

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

I feel the same way as you do. I'm just holding on to them until there comes an armor that is really deserving of it.

Erik Fox

Erik Fox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Texas

Why do people feel the need to have super expensive armor before they dye it black? If I have the dyes, and it looks good, I'll dye any(max AL) armor any color I want. My ranger so far is the only char I have with black dyed armor - it's Krytan. The starter armor. Just max AL. What's wrong with that?

Jugalo Dano

Jugalo Dano

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

N/Me

I use black dye if I like the way it looks, plain and simple. If I get a new set of armor I always mess around with dye combos a whole bunch, seeing all the multiple dye combinations to see if I like something before I make up my mind. A few times I've dyed something black or white, decided to change it to something else, not liked it and re dyed it with expensive stuff all over again. After all, it's just a game and gold isn't real. If you like it, do it.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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I find that very few armors actually look good in plain black or white. They both tend to obscure and wash out details.

I've got a few of both hanging around in my storage. I don't know if I'll ever use them, or if I'll just sell them. The only set I could ever consider using them on that I currently have is my Dervish's Primeval, because black+red would make an awesome deep blood-red shade that I really want on my armor, but I need more black dyes to do that and I'm not going to buy any myself. I would possibly use the white on my Dervish's Vabbian, but I redye that armor a lot so it'd end up being wasted.

So we'll see. They're being held on to for now.

Hyperventilate

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

I don't use black dye. It defeats the purpose of me saving up and buying pretty armors. Black usually wipes all traces of texture and detail from the cloth and, small details are what I buy armor for.

Besides, having black armor (Obsidian or otherwise) doesn't make you any more special or expensive than the other ninety-billion people with black elite armor (obsidian or otherwise.)

I prefer to cut my own path and don't follow the black sheep blindly.

I usually use mixtures of colors. I like purples and blues.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

I keep them for when I feel the need to use them. Believe it or not I've only dyed 2 armor sets black in the years I've been playing. 1k Kurzick for male assassin and 1k canthan for female monk only because I think it makes those sets look even better than they are and I like them, none of my 15k sets have been dyed with anything expensive.

Currently Assassin & Monk 1k sets...
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...&pictureid=885
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LicensedLuny

Badly Influenced

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)

Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish

I'm so happy to see so many replies above that match my feelings!

1) Plain black is far too overdone and often looks, to me, just wrong on a lot of things.
2) You're the one that will spend the most time looking at your armor. You should dye it something you like to look at.

As for me, I've been as sick of things dyed plain black as I am sick of towns full of characters that all have pale, Caucasian skin tones ... since I started playing.

There are a few things I have that I think look good in plain black, but I still just can't manage to do it on principle. I always save any black dye drops I get rather than selling it. I have no reservations about using black in mixes if I can afford it or I have it handy. Some of my gear is dyed with mixes that contain black (black and yellow on a Tyrian-skin Serpent axe is nice!) I don't often notice other people's colors, but still every once in a while I see someone with armor dyed in a combo that contains black - I always try to stop and compliment them when I think it looks good.

A recent example that pops to mind is seeing a Dervish with some black+silver+? combo. That looked really good to me - dark and foreboding and shadowy instead of plain black which winds up looking like a graphical glitch usually.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

I put black dye on my Ritualist Elite Kurzick armour and on my bandana; nothing besides that.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

I only have pure black on upper body tats for my monk. The rest I pack-rat away or have used with other color combinations.

Muwhahahahahaha Ha

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik Fox View Post
Why do people feel the need to have super expensive armor before they dye it black? If I have the dyes, and it looks good, I'll dye any(max AL) armor any color I want.
because it kinda redundent to dye your armor with dye more expensive then your entire armor set. black dyes running at 8k per now, and a normal set runs for 5k+mats( which usually dont cost more than 3k)

as for me: i used to sell but lately i've been saving because i've been dying more and more stuff.

Saph

Saph

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

R/

Armor doesn't have to be elite to dye it black. I have 5 characters that are levels 1-6 with black dye on their armor. Its all about personal taste really.

dusty4444

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Legion of Heavens Order[Good]

R/Rt

I usually just hold on to them but I do Love the black&white combo so my first armor that just looked better dyed black was my para's, wich had non-dyeable parts white, and on top of that I had a shadow shield for her that matched perfect.
Second time I used black was a coincidence really. My friend had dyed her armor white and I really liked it and made almost the same armor but as I was trying all sort of combinations, I tried a plain black on the top. Now our mesmers look like sisters, mine being the "evil" one.
Oh and I almost forgot - value ingame... doesn't really mean anything lol, I have 2 obsi pices combined with shing jea 1k armor (max AL of course) just because it looks better that way. :P

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

If you like it and can afford it, use it. Pretty straightforward.

Need More Donuts

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2008

D/W

I've dyed quite a few armors black even some in pre, if it looks good I'll do it...

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

just hold on to them in case i ever feel like dying an armor black. prefer white most of the time though

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

My ranger,rit and mesmer have the classic black from the old square bottles on their Obsidian, but I haven't used a black dye in years. I just sell them as soon as they drop.

komma

komma

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

None

N/

the new dark is to black so its merch food for me.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Used a crapload on my mesmer's armor, some on my sin's armor. As for white...that's all for my warrior. I think I have 6 full sets without helms dyed white.

Highlander Of Alba

Highlander Of Alba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Real Rogue Clan

Rt/Mo

I do agree with some its all personal taste.

If I like black on say an assasin ill do it,But mostly Ill dye an armour and have a look. Like green on one of my female rits..she looks cool but again its personal taste otherwise ill merch them.

I will just hold onto white/black ect for a short while

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

I wish I could mix it well with other colors to create nice deep dark colors like I could before NF completely screwed the mixing system.
Now the mixing is bugged for 3 years and it plain sucks, black itself is way too dark but when mixing it's not dark at all in most cases and in extreme cases adding a black to a mix can make the color brighter instead of darker!
WTB a fix, paying 100 black dyes.

Sarc

Sarc

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Black is my favorite color. The only set armor I really use is dyed black, the others just default.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

In 4 years and quite a few armor sets I've never dyed anything black (or white, for that matter). I've only had 3 black drops, so maybe that makes me think they're more valuable. I tried it on my Warriors Primeval though and it completely covered up a lot of detail. It was horrible. Silver was much better.

Jugalo Dano

Jugalo Dano

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
I wish I could mix it well with other colors to create nice deep dark colors like I could before NF completely screwed the mixing system.
Now the mixing is bugged for 3 years and it plain sucks, black itself is way too dark but when mixing it's not dark at all in most cases and in extreme cases adding a black to a mix can make the color brighter instead of darker!
WTB a fix, paying 100 black dyes.
I use brown alot to darken color combos. It gives color a more rustic look, instead of shadowy.

But it still depends on the type of armor your dying, despite it supposed to being universal now. Try dying male ele vabbian armor, it's so outta wack its funny, almost like dying a chaos axe.

Xo Twinblade

Xo Twinblade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2008

Zealots of Shiverpeak

W/N

I think its racist that black dye costs more then yellow and white.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

It's all a matter of personal preference. I used black dye in combination with other dyes for my Mesmer's obsidian armor to get a nice color that you don't see very often and it looks good. I've got straight black dye on my Dervish's Vabbian armor. It's more common to see, but I like the look of it - it doesn't hide all of the details like it does on many armors. On my perma-pre mesmer, I dyed the top and boots black and the legs & gloves a green combo. Again, because I like the look of it (All black would be ugly).

stanzhao

stanzhao

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

i just use them on whatever looks good. i used to have black 1k canth armor on my ele. my derv has black armor, a guildie has dyed his iventory bags black. i mean, meh... its only a coloured dye... luckily i farm a lot, so i have quite a few in storage.

just depends, some people who dont come across them that often will use them on anything they can, or sell them. people who get a lot of black dyes just use them like any other colour

dunky_g

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

Just dye your bags black, and then use the rest on what ever you think looks good with black dye?

Darth The Xx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Sen'jin Village

The Infamous Cake Bandits [cake]

Mo/W

I use it mainly for mixing, plain black looks atrocious on monks, atm i'm running a 2 black + red combo and looks pretty nice, looks like my armour has been lacquered

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

My ranger:


Didn't like how it turned out, so I re-dyed it:

If I am not mistaken, this one contains two black dyes per piece.

And then, I deleted that ranger since I found a hotter piece of ass:


(And don't get me started on the black armours my mesmers that I deleted had!)

It's just gold.

LicensedLuny

Badly Influenced

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)

Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish

@upier I really like that second pic's color. Very appropriate for a ranger, too. Shame you deleted him.

And I agree, pre dye update black was vastly better than post dye update black. I was still overdone, but at least it didn't look like a graphical glitch half the time.

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

I have 2 characters in black armor, my ranger and dervish, but that's because it actually looks cool. It's all about personal preference, and I find black a good color with certain armors.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

I sell my black dye because all the DARK AND BROODING lovers make it so expensive.

White is way better for me, especially on warrior armors. Although I have taken to color coding my armors, like my warrior is white, monk is green, Ele is red...
(Green Elite Canthan Armor looks boss)

agent akio

agent akio

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Zero Hunters[Zero]

W/

I use black dye on my monks tats.. thats about it.

tmakinen

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Black/white doesn't have any prestige status for me, the only thing that matters is to get the color that I want. I have more vials of each than I'll ever need but the only pure black armor that I've got is my sin's FoW. I wanted to dye it to skin color so that the armor would look like a sparse collection of leather straps but since the color mixing system is as FUBAR as it is, after half an hour of trying I gave up and dunked her in a big vat of black dye for authenticity.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute Destiny View Post
What do you do with your Black Dyes?
I look at them lying on the ground for a sec, and go "ooh, black dye!". Then I pick them up, and sell them to the dye trader as soon as I get back to town. I have no use for them, and I can't be bothered trying to sell to players (trading is deeply unpleasant).

qvtkc

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

I keep all dyes I get no matter what the color. It's handy to have them if you need to dye something. I never consider their price/cost since gold is so easy to come by anyway.

Tramp

Tramp

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

in 2 years 11 months of playing, i have gotten exactly 34 black dyes as drops, used 6 on random armor pieces, one on a weapon, and still have 27 in storage. I might blow them all and put them on my favorite weapons i have collected over the years even though i never really look or play with them. Up until 6 months ago I used to pick up any dye I got just to see the distribution over time with the various colors, but after nearly a stack of green and brown and orange and yellow I said forget it and just grab the black, white, silver, red, blue now. Why? I dunno...just habit.

Nereyda Shoaal

Nereyda Shoaal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Deldrimor Warcamp

Mo/W

I use them, I sell them, I collect them

Any person claiming black dye is overrated, better selling than using it or armors don't look good in 100% black is talking absolute nonsense. The way you look depends on a lot of things. Starting with your skin color, hairstyle, hair color, face... Not even mentioning sex or profession. Or the armor itself... On some black color looks proper black on others dark-grey(ish). The very reason I'm having plenty of dyes so I can experiment
My monk has 3 armor sets (out of 14) dyed plain black and anyone who says she doesn't look good needs to see an optician