Ecto Trader Price

Vyral

Vyral

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So? Does anybody know what's up with the recent rapid inflation of ecto prices at the Rare Materials Trader. 10 days ago the trader was selling for 5k, a few days ago 5.5k, and now 6k. That has to be a bigger move in 2 weeks than was seen in the last 2 years.

Seems odd given the fact that UWSC has made the supply larger than ever.

Is this some kind of big alliance market manipulation? Or just massive speculation regarding a rumored SF nerf? Even with the latter, I'm surprised the trader market has moved so much. Do people actually buy ecto from the trader?

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ok i'll go make some ectos and merch em all so i can save the day =D

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I'm pretty sure me and my friends could bring it back down if we cash in our stacks of armbraces for ectos and then merched all of them.

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sf nerf :PPPPPPPP

Symeon

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Demand for ectos is rising with RR days. Everyone is trying to trade their zkeys for ectos, or sell their zkeys and then buy ectos. Similarly the price of zkeys has gone down because supply outweighs demand.

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Originally Posted by Symeon View Post
Demand for ectos is rising with RR days. Everyone is trying to trade their zkeys for ectos, or sell their zkeys and then buy ectos. Similarly the price of zkeys has gone down because supply outweighs demand.
Which brings up the question - how much damage did XTH and SF really cause?
I mean, if they really bring in as much money as everyone shouts they do, shouldn't we see the market reacting in a similar fashion?

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RR day brings in crap loads of keys. but high end items have almost always been traded for in ectos. so naturally people want to change their keys into ectos or gold to buy ectos. so ectos went up.

wilderness

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Originally Posted by upier View Post
Which brings up the question - how much damage did XTH and SF really cause?
I mean, if they really bring in as much money as everyone shouts they do, shouldn't we see the market reacting in a similar fashion?
It's a mixture of everything mentioned in this thread, imo.

More gold in game (caused by the various factors mentioned) needs converting into something past the Mill mark and ecto are the most popular item for post Mill gold storage.

Add this to the already mentioned influx of keys that are being sold off as quickly as possible, and you see a rise in Ecto value.

I doubt it'll go much higher atm. Zkeys are a much faster 'spent' consumable than ectos, as the majority of buyers are looking to use on the zchest rather than horde, so the abundance will soon ease.

Unless, of course, Anet allow another RR day. This won't cause any lasting damage, but it will keep the imbalance of z/e values going for a while longer.

As soon as RR day is abolished and the surplus is spent, they'll return to 1:1 value.

raddish

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Its simply supply and demand. many people want ectos at the moment, and thats because most people think SF will be nerfed in the next big update (should be next week)

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Originally Posted by wilderness View Post
It's a mixture of everything mentioned in this thread, imo.

More gold in game (caused by the various factors mentioned) needs converting into something past the Mill mark and ecto are the most popular item for post Mill gold storage.

Add this to the already mentioned influx of keys that are being sold off as quickly as possible, and you see a rise in Ecto value.

I doubt it'll go much higher atm. Zkeys are a much faster 'spent' consumable than ectos, as the majority of buyers are looking to use on the zchest rather than horde, so the abundance will soon ease.

Unless, of course, Anet allow another RR day. This won't cause any lasting damage, but it will keep the imbalance of z/e values going for a while longer.

As soon as RR day is abolished and the surplus is spent, they'll return to 1:1 value.
RR day tommorow :P (at least my time) approx 30 hours
rejoice lol for economy will plummet once more

kedde

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With hb gone and sf supposedly being nerfed some time prices for both should go up some time again as long as xth doesn't see a near comeback.

Nothing unusual in prices fluctuating if you have any clue of basic large scale economics.

kupp

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ALSO, it could also be some people are hoarding ecto's saving up for the SF nerf and the (hopefully) end of SC's everywhere. I've heard a lot of people talking about this.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wilderness View Post
It's a mixture of everything mentioned in this thread, imo.

More gold in game (caused by the various factors mentioned) needs converting into something past the Mill mark and ecto are the most popular item for post Mill gold storage.

Add this to the already mentioned influx of keys that are being sold off as quickly as possible, and you see a rise in Ecto value.

I doubt it'll go much higher atm. Zkeys are a much faster 'spent' consumable than ectos, as the majority of buyers are looking to use on the zchest rather than horde, so the abundance will soon ease.

Unless, of course, Anet allow another RR day. This won't cause any lasting damage, but it will keep the imbalance of z/e values going for a while longer.

As soon as RR day is abolished and the surplus is spent, they'll return to 1:1 value.

thats pretty much what i wanted to say, GG:P

leetLoLa

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RR is sad anet have to do something

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what do you guys mean with rr?

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what do you guys mean with rr?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10406493

Cursed by Grenth

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rr day says all.
poor people had cash too after this and they bought ecto from trader(if you are a beginner u buy ur mats at trader also right)

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Originally Posted by kupp View Post
ALSO, it could also be some people are hoarding ecto's saving up for the SF nerf and the (hopefully) end of SC's everywhere. I've heard a lot of people talking about this.
This. No matter how or where people are getting their money, they are hoarding ectos because no one knows what is going to happen to SF.

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Originally Posted by kupp View Post
ALSO, it could also be some people are hoarding ecto's saving up for the SF nerf and the (hopefully) end of SC's everywhere. I've heard a lot of people talking about this.
I can't wait till SF gets nerf'd.....I never even used it.

I can see the thread titles on the guru homepage now...

"icant play the game without one elite skill wtf guys"
"babgdhhdffff..sg......."
"WTFBBQQQQQ ANET SUX SF BRG BACK PLZ"
"aNET sUcK SF WTf"
"sf wtffffffffff"
"Game Update: Shadow Form has nerfed, you now have to get creative again."

And each link leads to: Invalid thread specified, contact an administrator. Just like every thread good here.

Loot Junkie

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It's not just ectos that have been driven up by RR day. Take a look at shards, rubies and sapphires and you will see the upward movement there as well. People selling zkeys run out of room for cash, simple as that.

snodaard

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ye pretty sure there are ppl that can do it on your own, so gz on your 5 ecto's

AlsPals

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Time to convert cash to ectos and play the market. This farming bullshit aint cuttin it.

AngelWJedi

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Originally Posted by kupp View Post
ALSO, it could also be some people are hoarding ecto's saving up for the SF nerf and the (hopefully) end of SC's everywhere. I've heard a lot of people talking about this.
LOL. a friend told me to do that with my few ectos i have. said i would make mega bucks once they nerf SF. lols

Trader of Secrets

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i think its those who speculate a SF nerf coming with the halloween update (note im not even implying that there will be one) and then they just predicting to bank on the ecto that they just have bought for low

Dunda

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The people who farm the zkeys, the new players, who want to look cool, buy shards/ectos/god knows what else to get Chaos gloves FoW armor destroyer gloves anything to look like the base of older players with good looks lol, the best way to solve all this is just outright delete HB asap, and the most probable thing is they will nerf SF but bring in some other skills so it isnt just a perma that does the best farming. Assassins were already overpowered PvE's with all there blocking buffs.

Zahr Dalsk

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Originally Posted by Dunda View Post
The people who farm the zkeys, the new players, who want to look cool, buy shards/ectos/god knows what else to get Chaos gloves FoW armor destroyer gloves anything to look like the base of older players with good looks lol
>implying that looks good

Protip: it doesn't. Warriors, Monks, and Eles running around with FoW armour and chaos/destroyer gloves? Ugly. Almost any armour set combined with mask of the mo zing? Ugly. For that matter, FoW armour on a warrior, monk, elementalist, ranger, or dervish; ugly. Chaos, destroyer, or indeed, ice-whatever-you-call-them gloves, all look bad on armour sets where the gloves are meant to seamlessly match the chest piece at the elbow.

The bandana seldom looks good. Some classes can pull it off - warriors and ritualists, mainly. Others, like monk - no, you look terrible, ditch the bandana. Particularly if you're a prophecies monk, it makes you look even more like a terrible hybrid of human, mouse, and pig.

Lay off the black dye. Seriously. Yes, there are some sets it looks good on. But with almost every armour set, you could get a better appearance if you took the time to test some colour combos. (Granted this presents a problem for most of these people because, as we've already realized, they have no idea what looks good, and thus would probably get something even more garishly unpleasant.)

Mask of the mo zing: yes, you like ninjas, you want to feel more like your grorious nippon anime character. No, it doesn't look good. Take it off. There are a few sets it goes well with, otherwise, you just look like an extreme weeaboo. If you're a prophecies monk, however, or indeed most any prophecies character, then do indeed please wear this, or a dread mask, or anything else that hides your incredibly ugly face. This also goes to a lesser extent to nightfall characters.

Attention Warriors: your obsidian armour looks horrid. Go get something that looks good, like elite kurzick. Attention Rangers: your obsidian armour has to be the worst of the lot. Pack it in, put it away. Get norn. Get ancient. Get primeval. Get something that doesn't look terrible.

Chaos Gloves: I've already spoken about how weird it looks when your chest armour abruptly halts at the arms, but I should also mention that Chaos Gloves take away from the overall appearance of your character in the majority of cases. At the very least make the colour match the colour of your armour, please. (Unless your armour's dyed black in which case your armour needs to be recoloured).

Uh, what else is there to bitch about...

Ritualists: monument armour looks terrible. Take it off. Necromancers: I don't know what this set is called, but the one with the massive collar looks ridiculous. Wear it if you like, but be aware that you look extremely comical. People using tonics: you're an eyesore, almost as bad as the obsidian+chaos monk clones.

Now for some advice and positive things:

Mesmers: you look good in just about every armour set and you're the one class that genuinely looks good with chaos gloves. Ritualists: most of your armour looks great, including non-elite, but please, don't mix and match it, it's not meant for that. Paragons: get obsidian; unlike many classes, the paragon obsidian armour looks wonderful.

Final complaint:

Stop pinging your weapons. No one cares about the name of your weapon, the mods on it, and that it's gold. If we did we'd ask you. The only people who care about this are other people who ping their weapons, spam /rank or /zrank, and play like utter shit.

I got quite carried away there.

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Not the place for that at all.

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post

:) I got quite carried away there.
Eh just a little bit biased...but uh lol....we all do it.

Luckily I do not wear any of those things anyway... way2 overused. :D

lemming

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
No one cares about the name of your weapon, the mods on it, and that it's gold.
No one cares about your opinion either.

Darkobra

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Originally Posted by tehlemming View Post
No one cares about your opinion either.
His opinion means more than if a weapon is gold or purple. Opinions define people while a different coloured weapon doing the exact same thing is exactly the same and nobody can see the difference in the name.

Strife17

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Join Date: Jul 2008

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
>implying that looks good

Protip: it doesn't. Warriors, Monks, and Eles running around with FoW armour and chaos/destroyer gloves? Ugly. Almost any armour set combined with mask of the mo zing? Ugly. For that matter, FoW armour on a warrior, monk, elementalist, ranger, or dervish; ugly. Chaos, destroyer, or indeed, ice-whatever-you-call-them gloves, all look bad on armour sets where the gloves are meant to seamlessly match the chest piece at the elbow.

The bandana seldom looks good. Some classes can pull it off - warriors and ritualists, mainly. Others, like monk - no, you look terrible, ditch the bandana. Particularly if you're a prophecies monk, it makes you look even more like a terrible hybrid of human, mouse, and pig.

Lay off the black dye. Seriously. Yes, there are some sets it looks good on. But with almost every armour set, you could get a better appearance if you took the time to test some colour combos. (Granted this presents a problem for most of these people because, as we've already realized, they have no idea what looks good, and thus would probably get something even more garishly unpleasant.)

Mask of the mo zing: yes, you like ninjas, you want to feel more like your grorious nippon anime character. No, it doesn't look good. Take it off. There are a few sets it goes well with, otherwise, you just look like an extreme weeaboo. If you're a prophecies monk, however, or indeed most any prophecies character, then do indeed please wear this, or a dread mask, or anything else that hides your incredibly ugly face. This also goes to a lesser extent to nightfall characters.

Attention Warriors: your obsidian armour looks horrid. Go get something that looks good, like elite kurzick. Attention Rangers: your obsidian armour has to be the worst of the lot. Pack it in, put it away. Get norn. Get ancient. Get primeval. Get something that doesn't look terrible.

Chaos Gloves: I've already spoken about how weird it looks when your chest armour abruptly halts at the arms, but I should also mention that Chaos Gloves take away from the overall appearance of your character in the majority of cases. At the very least make the colour match the colour of your armour, please. (Unless your armour's dyed black in which case your armour needs to be recoloured).

Uh, what else is there to bitch about...

Ritualists: monument armour looks terrible. Take it off. Necromancers: I don't know what this set is called, but the one with the massive collar looks ridiculous. Wear it if you like, but be aware that you look extremely comical. People using tonics: you're an eyesore, almost as bad as the obsidian+chaos monk clones.

Now for some advice and positive things:

Mesmers: you look good in just about every armour set and you're the one class that genuinely looks good with chaos gloves. Ritualists: most of your armour looks great, including non-elite, but please, don't mix and match it, it's not meant for that. Paragons: get obsidian; unlike many classes, the paragon obsidian armour looks wonderful.

Final complaint:

Stop pinging your weapons. No one cares about the name of your weapon, the mods on it, and that it's gold. If we did we'd ask you. The only people who care about this are other people who ping their weapons, spam /rank or /zrank, and play like utter shit.

I got quite carried away there.
there is no discussion about taste.

wilderness

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post

I got quite carried away there.
As you tend to. Almost every single one of your posts is a lesson in pointless bias and ridiculous assertion of opinion as fact.

Some people enjoy things you don't, and while some of my tastes match your own, you'd do yourself a favour realising that you don't have the objective eye for quality!

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
All the crap you can read above....
You don't realy have much or neither a good taste.... Most people do cary FoW armor not to look cool but the fact it is the most expensive armor in the whole game. It's called show off. Same with weapons. And a lot of people are for some reason interested in it. Stop complaining in topics not made for your complains. Reading it was just a waste of time.

OT. For some reason ecto's price going up and not down. While I don't think anyone would buy and neither sell ecto's to a material trader. There are and most likely will always be a lot of people buying and selling ecto's. And these people are not hard to find. And who would be stupid to buy from a trader if it would cost 50k-100k more? So what is keeping the price rising? Shouldn't overfarming something make the price drop to almost nothing and then everybody goes on to the next most valuable material?

Thenameless Wonder

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Originally Posted by Chrisworld View Post
I can't wait till SF gets nerf'd.....I never even used it.

I can see the thread titles on the guru homepage now...

"icant play the game without one elite skill wtf guys"
"babgdhhdffff..sg......."
"WTFBBQQQQQ ANET SUX SF BRG BACK PLZ"
"aNET sUcK SF WTf"
"sf wtffffffffff"
"Game Update: Shadow Form has nerfed, you now have to get creative again."

And each link leads to: Invalid thread specified, contact an administrator. Just like every thread good here.
Lol. How funny; sad but true.

Cracko

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nerdrage.....

Strife17

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2008

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IF SF gets nerfed, ecto's will go up even more. (duhh)

and a lot of ppl will quit playing GW, because the only thing they do now is speed clear with a perma sin.

ppl don't play anymore (can't blame them, missions have stayed the same for 4 years..) they farm.

Zahr Dalsk

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Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

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Originally Posted by wilderness View Post
As you tend to. Almost every single one of your posts is a lesson in pointless bias and ridiculous assertion of opinion as fact.
Right back at ya'!

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Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

It wouldn't surprise me if the recent wave of account thefts has something to do with ecto prices. The quickest way to process the millions upon millions of stolen gold would be to just buy ecto from the material trader.