Add Black/White Dye to PvP Equip Window

Darth The Xx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Sen'jin Village

The Infamous Cake Bandits [cake]

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Seriously I don't see the problem with this, I mean some people might complain it will decrease the value of Black/White Dye, but come on these are PvP chars who don't influence PvP in any way. At least make it unlockable?

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Inb4 pve only players.

thelittlemutt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

IL

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black and white possess value due to their rarity and demand. if you really want to have pvp characters with black or white armor, just use it from pve.

Darth The Xx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Sen'jin Village

The Infamous Cake Bandits [cake]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelittlemutt View Post
black and white possess value due to their rarity and demand. if you really want to have pvp characters with black or white armor, just use it from pve.
And have to redye it each time I change a rune or insignia O.o seriously if ur a pvp character you shouldn't have to resort to PvE for ur dyes

spirit of defeat

spirit of defeat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Holland

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth The Xx View Post
And have to redye it each time I change a rune or insignia O.o seriously if ur a pvp character you shouldn't have to resort to PvE for ur dyes
if you're pvp char you shouldn't have to resort to dyes anyway

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

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I'd agree in making it an un-lockable feature.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

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LOL. While we're at it should we also make ectos and other high end items unlockable with points too?

Hyperventilate

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelWJedi View Post
LOL. While we're at it should we also make ectos and other high end items unlockable with points too?

This.


I don't see the point in having black PVP armor. You'd just be like the mass of other purely black dyed PVPers out there.


/notsigned.

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

No sankyuu. Keep black and white the way they are (seriously... no pun intended... >_<).



~LeNa~

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir View Post
Inb4 pve only players.

If that's the case lets just ask Anet to remove all the unlockable weapons and armors for pvp chars.

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/signed to make them unlockable items.

Enon

Enon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Taking a dip at Nundu Bay

PvP isn't about looks. If you want to look pretty, get a PvE char and bring it to PvP

/not signed

drunk n angry

drunk n angry

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2009

in a quiet little town that i love.

Ancient Dragoons [AGED]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelWJedi View Post
LOL. While we're at it should we also make ectos and other high end items unlockable with points too?
this makes no sense, all he is wanting to do is make his PVP ARMOR a color other then the crappy blue red green yellow orange etc etc.... wtf would a pvp toon do with ectos and other highend items? his armor gets changed on a weekly if not daily basis so he would need to make a few hundred sets of armor and dye them all black or they should unlock black and white dye so we can all as pvp characters have the armor we want!

been wanting this myself for long time and it just makes since!

/signed

Akaraxle

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

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In after pve players.

Sifow Chan

Sifow Chan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enon View Post
PvP isn't about looks. If you want to look pretty, get a PvE char and bring it to PvP

/not signed
Let me refer to a post just a few above yours
Quote:
If that's the case lets just ask Anet to remove all the unlockable weapons and armors for pvp chars.
Seriously people, think before you type a reply.

White and Black should be unlockable to go along with all the unlockable armors and weapons.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akaraxle View Post
In after pve players.
Not after ALL PvE players! HA HA!!!!

But I don't care one way or the other, because if they do this it will have absolutely no effect on the PvE side of things.

/signed

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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If they're going to add Black and White dyes, they may as well change the system to allow for full combinations of all of the dyes instead of being forced to use a single color.

Ultimately, though, this is a pretty insignificant change.

Guan Aco

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2008

Belgium, Antwerp

Unreal Oddsey [UO]

R/D

You can just buy them from PvE players.. I mean just sell your z-keys, you'll probably have too much balth faction if you're a PvP player. And with that money you can easily buy a few black/white dyes.

Besides PvP isn't about the looks, it's more or less about what's on your skillbar and how you use it in different situations..

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

unlockable for 500 tourny points!!!! MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Marzipan Marci

Marzipan Marci

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

In my own dimension.

Golden Eternity [金金金金]

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I want miniature kanaxai to be unlockable for pvp characters.

/sarcasm off...

If you want to look pretty in pvp, make a pve character, buy everything for it, get ready to buy 2-3 pieces of each armor, and take it to pvp.

Muwhahahahahaha Ha

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

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i actually kinda made a suggestion like this for GW 2, so naturally i agree. the system i came up with would be like that of how you would unlock new armor( the tourny system), and it would be a reasonable price:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc View Post
unlockable for 500 tourny points!!!! MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!
not that=p, but something maybe the community should vote on. i also suggested something like this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
If they're going to add Black and White dyes, they may as well change the system to allow for full combinations of all of the dyes instead of being forced to use a single color.
if you want to check out my post, its here
ideas 2/3 are what this forum has brought up so far. wasn't exactly sure what to do here as far as Guru goes... but yeah i kinda already brought this up...just didnt feel the need to make a thread in Guru 1 as i don't expect this change to occur for GW1.

/signed

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Just buy some at a dye trader if it matters that much.

/notsigned

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

PvP players can open the HA and Zaishen chests, and get Zaishen coin rewards.
They can us those PvP rawards to get cash.
And then use that cash to acquire dyes from a Guild Hall trader.

PvP characters have the basic colors, but if you want more complex combinations, you'll have to use dyes like everyone else.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelittlemutt View Post
black and white possess value due to their rarity and demand.
So do perfect weapon mods and runes.

Quote:
PvP players can open the HA and Zaishen chests
I guess that's why zaishen shit title is considered pve title.

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by spirit of defeat View Post
if you're pvp char you shouldn't have to resort to dyes anyway
pvp characters have as much use for dyes as pve characters, if not more - with observer mode, pvp characters can potentially be seen far more frequently than pve characters.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir View Post
So do perfect weapon mods and runes.
this. while there are differences in the necessity of weapon and armor mods compared to that of dyes, the argument from monetary value alone is not a valid one.

Darkobra

Darkobra

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

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I don't see why not. Dyes are hardly game breaking. Yet.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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I really don't care one way or the other, my pvp characters are all in silver armor, because that is the default color.

But what I want to know is why PvE players really care so much about it when they will never see a pvp-only character in any of the outposts. Don't try to say obs mode, because the only people that watch that are pvp players, even back during the XTH pve players still didn't care about obs mode.

drkn

drkn

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Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelWJedi View Post
LOL. While we're at it should we also make ectos and other high end items unlockable with points too?
...
/notsigned

Darth The Xx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Sen'jin Village

The Infamous Cake Bandits [cake]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelWJedi View Post
LOL. While we're at it should we also make ectos and other high end items unlockable with points too?
Other high end items like what? Torms? Crystallines? kind of like the items already available as a PvP rewards?

To the people who say just buy dyes, u've obviously never PvPd before, with the amount of times you need to change armour to fit specific builds you would need hundred of dyes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enon View Post
PvP isn't about looks. If you want to look pretty, get a PvE char and bring it to PvP

/not signed
I shouldn't have to make a PvE char to look nice in PvP it would be the same if you had to use balth faction to purchase armour mods.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyperventilate View Post
This.


I don't see the point in having black PVP armor. You'd just be like the mass of other purely black dyed PVPers out there.


/notsigned.
Look on the bright side, at least more PvErs would be making PvP chars

Sifow Chan

Sifow Chan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

P/

There is no downside for making PvP characters able to use black and white colors. Dye prices would not drop because PvE chars would still have to buy dyes. If the black and white dyes have to be unlocked, it would reduce the amount of people able to use them without dyes.

+ this
Quote:
with the amount of times you need to change armour to fit specific builds you would need hundred of dyes.
To me it sounds like a bunch of greedy PvE players that don't want to share black and white colors. Well get over it, PvP players can already unlock armors and weapons, why limit colors as well.

Black and White colors would not ruin the game at all, there is no reason NOT to allow them to be unlockable.

NoConnection

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

A/W

I think if it had any effect at all the r9 crystallines that cost 300 reward points (60 keys), and can buy them for pve for 350e+ would have more dramatic effect, or other rare skin weapons. Anet made the rest of the gwen weapons available for pvp (BDS r9 prot= 500e, silverwing r9=300e) they will insert that with the next update, or you want that removed also?I seriously dont get whats your problem with inserting black/white dyes into the pvp system.
I have pvp warrior and i got obsidian on him, on him i usually set 2 different armor sets (for ha and gvg), so you are telling me that i should buy 2 pvp obsidian armors and dye them both black?Dont go with the "make pve charr" because there i whould still have to buy the 2 obsidian armors(and no i dont want any other armor/combination of armors) and alot of other weapons that cost more from pve than pvp. SO WHATS THE BIG DEAL?
Quote:
PvP Skins: The work on this is done. Joe miraculously resolved the two "show-stopping" graphics bugs with the EotN skins, implemented the price reductions and added support for ZCoins.
if you didnt believe it, i dont know if it comes with the update this week ( with the removing HB and TA) but it will come someday not far from now

Enon

Enon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Taking a dip at Nundu Bay

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sifow Chan View Post
Let me refer to a post just a few above yours.
Ironically enough I agree with that statement. There is no point in having unlockable weapons and armors in PvP.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth The Xx View Post
I shouldn't have to make a PvE char to look nice in PvP it would be the same if you had to use balth faction to purchase armour mods.
That's where you're wrong. Part of PvE is obtaining an Elite Armors and rare weapons.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enon View Post

That's where you're wrong. Part of PvE is obtaining an Elite Armors and rare weapons.
Huh, ANet must've screwed up since you can get them as a pvp char.

Sifow Chan

Sifow Chan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enon View Post
Ironically enough I agree with that statement. There is no point in having unlockable weapons and armors in PvP.
Seems you do not know how to read the context of words

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

And you don't know the meaning of the word "ironically"

Ambitious

Ambitious

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2009

E/R

Your childish "I deserve this. Me me me me. WHY NOT?" tone really turned away my sympathy. If you want to contribute a good suggestion you should act more mature and be considerate of another point of view.

/notsigned for all-around free use, I guess /signed for unlockable dye options with tournament reward points or whatever they're called, for the people who might actually deserve the privilege.

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

I have only one perma pvp character, which is my ele. This guy is in all gray and he does his job well. I think the ability to wear the festival hats is enough barbie doll dress up for him( lol snowball AT's). He is in the business of killing and has over 1.3 million xp not the business of fashion. As dedicated servants of balthazar I think all pvp toons should be gray only.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

I've suggested this 3 years ago.
Back then the intent was to provide a reward for having a large faction pool - my original idea required:
a single payment of: 50k Faction to unlock White Dye for PvP items
a single payment of: 100k Faction to unlock Black Dye for PvP items

Now I think there's one more important thing that NEEDS to be added to the PvP item creation panel - an option for NOT CHANGING COLOR when changing the upgrades on an item!

But still I'd love unlockable Black/White dyes for PvP as much as I'd love unlockable PvP Reward items - PvP chars should be used for rerolling a lot, I delete them and roll new ones all the time, I doubt many people buy so many character slots to have all professions PvP chars available if they do both PvP and PvE.

/signed

Copenhagen Master

Copenhagen Master

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

El Centro CA

Lazy Imperius Legionis (LaZy)

W/P

/sign

I don't see the big deal, yes they are rare dyes just make them unlockable at a higher cost of Balz points or something, or so many reward points. I don't see how it would affect the cost of dye anyways!, as stated by someone above

Chronos the Defiler

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

I dont understand why they care about aesthetics in the first place, if your gonna spend all these points on elite armors etc. why not just make a pve char?

NoConnection

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

A/W

because u cant change the inscriptions every time you need to, or if you do you are going to spend a fortune on inscriptions/runes every week or so.
Or if they add the option not changing the color of your armor like someone above me said i could easily go and buy dyes from pve, but every time i change a inscription on my armor the dye gets removed. Thats why i/we want one of those 2 options