The Best Scythe Profression

I'm sure this is a smack in the face to Dervish players, but I need to know. There are several professions that use a scythe well, possibly better than a Dervish.

Critical Scythe Assassin

PvE Pet Scythe

Enduring Scythe

I have tried all except the R/D build and even then used R/D in PvP. I believe the crit scythe to work best in damage output and best IAS.

Might as well sub enraged strike for wounding these days.

Critscythe is playable in PvP, but not as impressive vs kiting foes who you crit all the time anyway.

i think the warrior one is the best because you have "save yourself" and still big damage

There is no best.

• Sins are best in areas without enchantment removal.
• Warriors/Rangers are best in areas with enchantment removal.
• Dervs are best in PvP.

Btw, this should probably be in the PvE discussion area.

Pretty much. Sins will pump out ungodly DPS in a Master of Damage type situation where there's little enchantment removal and foes are close together.

Warriors will shine when you need offense and defense, mainly because SY. Rangers can similarly excel because of stance based IAS and defense.

I'm still not a fan of Dervs because, frankly, I think A,W, and R are far beyond them in their scythe-ing ability.

In HM, Warriors. Crits are nice but there's no substitute for bonus damage.

Crits are bonus damage if they happen on every almost every swing.....

And Sins can use WS and Reaper's

That's what I was hinting at. Dervishes seem to be unnecessary.

I think the class "dervish" are the best scythe profession...I think they use scythes as a primary weapon dosen't afraid of anything.

I kinda figured that's what this thread was. Well, look at it this way, Dervs are still the best scythe users for PvP. And really, they're still pretty powerful with them in PvE....it's just that the power creep has made Rangers, Sins, and Wars better.

Sorry bud.

P.S. Avatars are still pretty OP....hope that's enough for you.

I think this anon likes memes, eh posts memes and doesn't afraid of anything.

Avatars really do turn the table at times.

They should just tie how many people the scythe hit to Mysticism, such as how they should tie energy gained to Leadership.

Dervishes actually have the better scythe DPS than sins, and presumably rangers/warriors too.

I couldn't care less about crunching the numbers and I don't profess to know the true answer, but in my experience, a/d crit scythe sin positively owns in pve, it's fun as hell and kinda silly how you can tear things up

not sure a warrior using a scythe can keep up energy without the crit bonus

Really, the only thing that makes Dervishes better with Scythes is that they can helm & rune for it to get higher raw numbers from the skills. Or are there skills in Mysticism that affect their scything that I haven't noticed?

oh, I see, I haven't looked at the war build. That means you can't use wounding strike, which is a great lead

Sins:

A/D do more damage of the 3, but its weak point is as a sin you have low armor. This can be substituted with some pve-only skills and blocking enchants, but that leaves you open at the mercy of shatter enchant mesmers. A/D is impressive if you got a good ER prot ele or prot monk watching your back...in HM


Wars:

W/D provides the safest form of tanking, easiest energy management and good damage numbers. It is probably the best of the 3 because of SY which benefits the whole team.

Dervs:

Derv w/Balthazar form + AOE weakness enchants can actually tank safely against hard-hitting melee units as well (in fact they 0 damage in most situations), but they are susceptible to heavy elemental damage (unlike wars/rangers). Damage numbers may not look impressive unless you spec scythe mastery over 14 and bring pve-only luxon/sunspear skills.

Derv w/Lyssa form can churn out significant damage against enemies (easily seen in NM, somehwat difficult in HM), comparable to A/D but lacks the defense of Balth dervs. Again, AOE weakness can be used to mitigate damage from hard-hitting foes.

Dervs should consider going /W secondary and bring SY to benefit the team.

In PvE Dervs are the weakest, I deleted my Derv because he sucked so much compared to War and Sin using scythes. I swap builds on my War and Sin a lot, but I do use these scythe builds the most, as they're so overpowered. I have been hitting in the 400's with the A/D in NM, couple that with AoE damage (as mobs tend to clump a lot) and you kinda 2-hit foes. As for PvP, I have always liked how you could 3-4 hit kill a squishie with the D/E WS build, but the problem is that you are pretty squishy too, as you're sacrificing any form of survival for raw damage, which is fine as long as you have back-up. The other professions can all take some sort of defense, whether it be blocking or just some heal.

That's just incorrect. There's threads in campfire on this if anyone's interested in searching for more information.

An Assassin with a Scythe? Inconceivable! I didn't think they could use anything other than a staff and Sliver Armor for damage dealing.

An analysis of the DPS of scythe warriors, scythe sins, and dervishes that I did a little while back:

http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showp...2&postcount=44

Warriors and Assassins are significantly better with the scythe in PvE than the dervish. So is the Ritualist (though I've never bothered to calculate how much so, due to the fact that their inferior armor prevents them from truly taking over the dervish's role). Rangers and Paragons are better scythe users than the dervish unless the dervish takes zealous vow (then he's slightly better, but you have to get creative to make a zealous vow dervish that isn't completely redundant with respect to assassins and warriors).