Will I get flagged for giving away gold?

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

Mo/

So, I don't know if this is true, but I'm pretty sure Anet catches people selling gold by looking at the logs and seeing if someone traded someone 100k or more in a short period of time and determines whether or not they were trading the gold to the person who bought it online. If this is true, and since I'm quitting for awhile, I don't want to give away all my gold if it means getting banned for Anet thinking I'm the gold-seller, and my friend is the gold-buyer. Is this true, or do they go through more? Like check the account's activity, chat, etc?

Hooded Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

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someones mad.

D/

Well i've wondered the same thing, two mates of mine who left Pve completely gave me some cash and ecto to sell to fund my title hunting for nothing in return.

I was just thinking about this actually, will i get flagged...

in any case, if i do they'll read the chat log and see it's nothing

Zanagi Kazuhiko

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

Kamadan Dis 1

LF trolling/flaming guild, 8=D

W/

lol, if you're giving away anything you won't get reported.

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blinzx View Post
lol, if you're giving away anything you won't get reported.
Who reports people who sell the gold? How do they know the people are the gold sellers when all they do is go up to the person who bought the gold, and give it to them? Why would the buyer report the person they're buying the gold from?

So I doubt most gold sellers get caught by being reported. I'm talking about the logs.

Zanagi Kazuhiko

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

Kamadan Dis 1

LF trolling/flaming guild, 8=D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstalker View Post
Who reports people who sell the gold? How do they know the people are the gold sellers when all they do is go up to the person who bought the gold, and give it to them? Why would the buyer report the person they're buying the gold from?

So I doubt most gold sellers get caught by being reported. I'm talking about the logs.
No, they cannot ban you for giving away stuff, even with your logs. I gave tons of things away and I haven't been banned yet.

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blinzx View Post
No, they cannot ban you for giving away stuff, even with your logs. I gave tons of things away and I haven't been banned yet.
Well, I just worry because giving away 500k in about 30 seconds seems pretty suspicious to me.. if I were looking at it from outside the situation.

LoneManWolf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

Mo/

have your friends put in random useless junk
4 piles of dust, 10 iron, crap white weapons...
then it's not even flagged

leetLoLa

leetLoLa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2009

Pawn!

Who Are You [wAu]

W/Mo

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that say to your friend to give u a crap wep or minipet

Zanagi Kazuhiko

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

Kamadan Dis 1

LF trolling/flaming guild, 8=D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by LoneManWolf View Post
have your friends put in random useless junk
4 piles of dust, 10 iron, crap white weapons...
then it's not even flagged
That said you could do that, and even if you get banned...just explain to them what you did and on. They will probley lift up that ban.

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blinzx View Post
That said you could do that, and even if you get banned...just explain to them what you did and on. They will probley lift up that ban.
Anet shouldn't ban someone for doing that... it's like selling a mini ghostly for a crapload of cash. Non merchant items don't have a fixed value and the buyer and seller set the prices. If you want to pay 100k for a pile of glittering dust and a mini devourer, who is going to stop you?

LicensedLuny

Badly Influenced

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)

Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish

To make it as easy as possible for a GM that looks to see that it wasn't gold selling, why not have them join team first. Then discuss in team chat that you're friends and giving your gold away because they're going to keep playing while you are not, at least not for a while.

Then, if you happen to get swept up in some sort of filter program, you can direct support to team chat at the time of the trade if they don't spot it themselves.

Cheers

obsidian ectoplasm

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

dear sir, may i have some of your money?

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Here's an idea. Contact support and tell them you'll be giving away all your gold to a friend and supply support with your account credentials (your email and character name that you will be using) so that they know it was your if a flag does come up. You'll have your proof (the emails/"My Stuff" for your PlayNC) that you contacted support and gave them a heads up in case anything did happen.

Good luck.



~LeNa~

majikmajikmajik

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

SATown~Tx

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honestly posting this would be credible enough, but i dont think its a good idea unless you drop the gold in a explorable area in small incriments maybe like a hide&seek? just so you dont get flagged for giving high amounts of gold away(if its a lump sum ea time like 50k+).

SkekSister

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2008

Brighton UK

Contact them in advance. A Guildie got banned for moving 500k from one of his accounts to another in our Guildhall. He got the ban lifted eventually since the trade was proven to be between two accounts connecting from the same IP address, but it took a while and was a royal pain in the ass.

Kador

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by SkekSister View Post
Contact them in advance. A Guildie got banned for moving 500k from one of his accounts to another in our Guildhall. He got the ban lifted eventually since the trade was proven to be between two accounts connecting from the same IP address, but it took a while and was a royal pain in the ass.
If true that's just ridiculous. You shouldn't have to notify them in advance if you are going to legitimately transfer items in-game. Checking the IP addresses is the first thing they should do as plenty of people have multiple accounts for muling purposes. More and more it's looking like they ban accounts far to easily and with a minimal amount of research, if any.

I have multiple accounts and transfer items on an almost daily basis, though not on the scale of 500k.

rb.widow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2009

I doubt they would say anything if its a 1 off thing, if however you had someone give you 200k today, and you give away 200k tomorrow, then the day after someone else gives you 200k and you give it away again, then yea id say that be drawing alot of attention to yourself,

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstalker View Post
So, I don't know if this is true, but I'm pretty sure Anet catches people selling gold by looking at the logs and seeing if someone traded someone 100k or more in a short period of time and determines whether or not they were trading the gold to the person who bought it online.
I would assume that ANet would also check the logs to see if the characters involved have done the same thing a number of times.
I would assume that gold sellers would use the same account to do a number of gold transactions, not just one or two. Also, the gold sellers transactions would tend to be more random in nature.
I would think that if you give away some gold to a few people within your own Guild or circle of friends, it should be no problem. It may look suspicious, so you might be tracked for a while, but I doubt that any real problems would arise.

Btw, I'm not sure that trading some trash for gold is a good idea or not. It may depend upon whether or not gold sellers do it too.

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker View Post
Btw, I'm not sure that trading some trash for gold is a good idea or not. It may depend upon whether or not gold sellers do it too.
I was curious about that, too. Although it seems unlikely, who knows?