As a disclaimer, I don't think this is a very important thing for anet to do at all. I just thought of the idea and thought I'd post it.
Since a very big thing preventing people from shadow stepping in PvE is it's recharge, I couple things came to mind:
1) reduce the recharge of shadow step skills along with their effect (if any)
or
2) change the functionality of an assassin elite (Shadow Meld?) to provide a simple "shadow step to target foe" effect with a recharge of about 8-10 seconds perhaps.
What do you guys think?
Shadow stepping in PvE
Axel Zinfandel
BlackSephir
That it wouldn't hurt to buff shadow steps in pve. Or revert splinter weapon.
Pve is already dead anyway.
Pve is already dead anyway.
IronSheik
Don't even see need for steps in pve in the first place.
Revert splinter pewpew
Revert splinter pewpew
Braxton619
/signed
I hate having the effect waiting 30 seconds for Death Charge.
Make a new skill like this:
Energy: 5
Recharge: 5
(no attribute)
Shadow step to target foe.
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Make it simple.
I hate having the effect waiting 30 seconds for Death Charge.
Make a new skill like this:
Energy: 5
Recharge: 5
(no attribute)
Shadow step to target foe.
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Make it simple.
ogre_jd
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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel
As a disclaimer, I don't think this is a very important thing for anet to do at all. I just thought of the idea and thought I'd post it.
Since a very big thing preventing people from shadow stepping in PvE is it's recharge |
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Originally Posted by IronShiek
Don't even see need for steps in pve in the first place.
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The Drunkard
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Originally Posted by ogre_jd
Being able to close with or escape your enemy is just as broken in PvE as it is in PvP.
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/notsigned-sins don't need any shadowstep other than return or ebon escape for pve...charging into an enemy is just stupid.
toocooltang
If its broken in PvP why would it not be broken in PVE?
Axel Zinfandel
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Originally Posted by toocooltang
If its broken in PvP why would it not be broken in PVE?
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Personally, I am heavily leaned towards just the second option, because a low recharge, unconditional, non-elite shadow step would to a good job in making moving in battle completely useless, and anyone could just go /A to get the skill.
If the first option were chosen, the recharge would have to be reduced to no less than 10-12 seconds, frankly.
However when it comes to making an ELITE, unconditional, low recharge shadow step, it's a lot more balanced, because many melee professions would not generally want to opt out their elite skill just to get to the enemy faster. I'd certainly something like:
[E] Shadow Meld (No Attribute)
5 energy 1/4 CT (debatable) 8 (or 10) RC
"Shadow step to target foe."
I frankly don't see how something like this would be OP in a PvE setting.
Eragon Zarroc
meh, shadow stepping pve isn't all that important. being able to close the distance on mobs quickly isn't a big deal 
. and you do not need to change the functionality of shadow meld -_-
. and you do not need to change the functionality of shadow meld -_-
Xx Da Best Xx
Id rather just reduce the recharge by about half for most shadow steps. Or make PvE and PvP versions of them...give PvE lower recharges since the you just plow through mob to mob.
Axel Zinfandel
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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc
meh, shadow stepping pve isn't all that important. being able to close the distance on mobs quickly isn't a big deal
. and you do not need to change the functionality of shadow meld -_- |
Also, PvE is in the title, and this is obviously a PvE only change people XD. a low recharge PvP shadow step would be pretty OP, even as an elite skill
Bob Slydell
It needs serious nerfing in PvP, but should be buffed in PvE.
Also Revert PvE Splinter Weapon!
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Also Revert PvE Splinter Weapon!
/signed
Cuilan
Shadow stepping was nice in PvE to get out of sticky situations or at least it use to be back when Factions was new. I think there are other skills that need PvE splits more more/before shadow step skills.
AngeliqueSynner
Shadowstepping in PvE is generally a bad idea.
It's probably partially the reason assassins have the reputation of DP Magnets...
Puts said wannabe ninja in direct fire of an entire group at once.
Sure, buff away, I suppose, not going to make me use them.
It's probably partially the reason assassins have the reputation of DP Magnets...
Puts said wannabe ninja in direct fire of an entire group at once.
Sure, buff away, I suppose, not going to make me use them.
Atro
/signed
it doesn get annoying when im trying to map on my ele and i get stuck and when i shadow step i dont get out, I die by the time it has recharged ;d
it doesn get annoying when im trying to map on my ele and i get stuck and when i shadow step i dont get out, I die by the time it has recharged ;d
Thenameless Wonder
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assassins need a simple skill to shadow-step
a skill like dash comes to mind here...
assassins need a simple skill to shadow-step
a skill like dash comes to mind here...
ogre_jd
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Originally Posted by AngeliqueSynner
Shadowstepping in PvE is generally a bad idea.
It's probably partially the reason assassins have the reputation of DP Magnets... |
(started doing that for my Warrior when I got sick of being killed before reaching groups of demons with Rains of Terror in them in the Realm of Torment, and it also means I no longer arrive in the area of Ice Imps and Frozen Elementals and such after the battle's over :P)
Ferminator
Removing the aftercast for shadowsteps (IN PVE) would be nice.
Lishy
Remove aftercast and reduce recharge for shadow steps in PvE
I want my sin to hop in, Golden Phoenix Moebius Blossom their monk, and hop back out behind my minions where I can heal, then rinse and repeat.
I want my sin to hop in, Golden Phoenix Moebius Blossom their monk, and hop back out behind my minions where I can heal, then rinse and repeat.
Tenebrae
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Originally Posted by AngeliqueSynner
Shadowstepping in PvE is generally a bad idea.
It's probably partially the reason assassins have the reputation of DP Magnets... Puts said wannabe ninja in direct fire of an entire group at once. |
Just lower recharge of Shadow Walk (PvE) to 10-15 secs and voila , solved.
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Remove aftercast and reduce recharge for shadow steps in PvE
I want my sin to hop in, Golden Phoenix Moebius Blossom their monk, and hop back out behind my minions where I can heal, then rinse and repeat. |
Mort Mythoryk
The only benefit I could see to making a spammable foe to foe shadowstep would be a sort of... Ray Park from Heroes effect... kinda jump from foe to foe to spike it out... but.. as fun as it would be... it's completely unnecessary.
Maybe if it were an elite skill with a recharge of 3 seconds... with absolutely NO effect... it could be viable (in A-nets perception), but other than that... I just don't see it happening...
But agreeably mate.... would be fun. C, space, shadowstep, Spike, C, space, shadowstep, spike.
(Also, coupled with jagged strike and maybe apply poison, you could spread conditions quite nicely like this.)
Maybe if it were an elite skill with a recharge of 3 seconds... with absolutely NO effect... it could be viable (in A-nets perception), but other than that... I just don't see it happening...
But agreeably mate.... would be fun. C, space, shadowstep, Spike, C, space, shadowstep, spike.
(Also, coupled with jagged strike and maybe apply poison, you could spread conditions quite nicely like this.)
draxynnic
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Originally Posted by Tenebrae
I dont care how XX <naruto/ninjaname> xX uses that skill, dont blame the skill , blame the player . For ppl that knows how to use sins shadow steps are really good but have stupid recharge in pve. Thats not an opinion , thats a fact . Many attack skills have faster rech in pve so shadow steps should be one those.
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