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Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

03 Nov 2009 at 19:40 - 41

@Hoodie: Might be, the case looks vaguely familiar.

@Deatgs: Yeah, I'm still indifferent about putting in the PS effect. I'll decide on whether or not to use it as soon as I fill in all the black spaces on the picture.

@Yun: With any luck, maybe much later tonight. I've got a little bit of studying to do for an Art History mid term tomorrow. At the latest, it'll be completely finished on Thursday the fifth. Oh, and don't think I forgot about your comission - I'll get around to your piece as soon as I finish this and all these essays clear up.

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

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Mo/W

03 Nov 2009 at 19:49 - 42

I'm good at waiting, and I don't mind. I do like to see your finished pieces though! You actually finish your pieces, unlike some people who-will-not-be-mentioned.

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

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W/P

03 Nov 2009 at 20:38 - 43

commission? what? commission? you do commissions? how much for commission? commission?

p.s. ooooo, it's gonna be finished soon

can't wait

Minami

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Join Date: Jul 2008

Dallas, TX. USA

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03 Nov 2009 at 22:22 - 44

YSJ, if by that you mean me, I'm still working on your pic too, revamping it a bit, and fixing details.

I've been racking my brain over the ecto/doppelganger contest, and I might be done with my pic today or tomorrow.

So don't worry, I haven't forgotten you.

Charlie Dayman

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03 Nov 2009 at 22:35 - 45

I hate being forced to study when I want to do art. I get all fidgety and start to procrastinate.

Know what your exact idea is going to be for the Doppleganger, Minami?

And Eragon, commissions from me are still up in the air. Yun was and is the only person so far to ask me for a commish; from around the time Tzu's Workshop went up. These two contests just got me sidetracked, so I wanted to jump to his request next. We'll see how things unroll as things clear up.

Commissions from me will probably be really limited since I'm trying to balance out class work as well.

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

03 Nov 2009 at 22:56 - 46

no i wasnt talking about any of you guys.. i was talking about blue, who never finishes a single piece he does :|

BlueXIV

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

03 Nov 2009 at 23:01 - 47

Whaaaaaaaaat. I totally finish my pieces. To a point where I consider them done.

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

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W/P

03 Nov 2009 at 23:02 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman

Commissions from me will probably be really limited since I'm trying to balance out class work as well. yessir ;-)

Charlie Dayman

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03 Nov 2009 at 23:27 - 49

Maybe limited isn't the best word. "Sporadic" sounds more appropriate.

Minami

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04 Nov 2009 at 01:44 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman View Post

Know what your exact idea is going to be for the Doppleganger, Minami?

Yepp, started to work on my pic a week/2 weeks ago, and been fiddling with it on and off... But I went at it full power most of yesterday and today. Originally I wanted to do 2 rangers, but I just couldn't fix the bows to look the way I wanted.
So I ended up with 2 warrior girls fighting, with my own idea of a doppelganger look. Just finishing up post work right now, it should be done later today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman

Yun was and is the only person so far to ask me for a commish; from around the time Tzu's Workshop went up. These two contests just got me sidetracked, so I wanted to jump to his request next. Same here

Duranin

Wilds Pathfinder

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East Coast

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Me/

04 Nov 2009 at 01:49 - 51

I usually do a picture in one sitting, or never finish it >________<

hoodiestarfish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

State of Nolani

When the trolling stops, the drawing stops too

04 Nov 2009 at 02:20 - 52

he better not be talking about me.... or reyla gets it.

Charlie Dayman

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04 Nov 2009 at 02:48 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Araiia of the Songs

I usually do a picture in one sitting, or never finish it >________< I wish I could be able to finish my pictures in one sitting...

And I really want to see your piece, Minami. Get to it and post that up on Zamochist's thread!

Minami

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04 Nov 2009 at 02:59 - 54

Will post it shortly, there wasn't that much post work I had to do

Charlie Dayman

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04 Nov 2009 at 03:01 - 55

html code is: [img]picture's address[/img]

Minami

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04 Nov 2009 at 03:06 - 56

Thanks Charlie

EDIT: I posted it finally ^_^

Charlie Dayman

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04 Nov 2009 at 03:58 - 57

Aaah, that's so awesome. Your female Doppleganger looks a helluva' lot cooler than the current one. Your picture reminds me of that "Clash of the Titans" movie for some reason. Awesome work, Kaori - I'm jealous of your 3D rendering skills.

And I got bored of studying. Way too excited about this piece to be sitting around studying slides. Almost done with it; just need to finish the shoulder/forearm guards and shade around the chaos axe.

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

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Mo/W

04 Nov 2009 at 04:15 - 58

I'm trying to find Minami's post of her doppleganger but I can't find it.. wtf?

Minami

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04 Nov 2009 at 04:18 - 59

Thanks ^_^
I usually don't do fighting scenes, so this was something out of the ordinary for me.

Can't wait to see your finished piece!

EDIT: Here you go YSJ: http://artzone.daz3d.com/azfiles/gal...quhqp-full.jpg

Perynne

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Finland

Runners of the Rose [RR]

04 Nov 2009 at 04:19 - 60

Can't wait to see your entry finished, Charlie! I'm really, really envious of anyone who can shade so well with a mechanical pencil. Mine always end up looking too sharp, and I struggle to get a lot of contrast between light and dark.
I really love the amount of detail in your entry as well. It's fun seeing the work in progress pics, and seeing how everything comes together bit by bit.

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

04 Nov 2009 at 04:24 - 61

...that's all done with mechanical pencil.

Wow.

I can't even imagine doing that. The squeaking noise that mechanical pencil lead makes on paper makes me cringe

Duranin

Wilds Pathfinder

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04 Nov 2009 at 04:25 - 62

haha I think that depends on the brand and the lead you're using xP not all of my pencils squeak (some scratch, and others are silent!)

Charlie Dayman

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04 Nov 2009 at 04:28 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verene

...that's all done with mechanical pencil.

Wow.

I can't even imagine doing that. The squeaking noise that mechanical pencil lead makes on paper makes me cringe

Haha. I guess it doesn't bother me because I can't hear it over how loud my music is playing when I work.

Charlie Dayman

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04 Nov 2009 at 06:48 - 64

Whoo, was really speeding through it there. Sized it to a 1024 pixel width so it makes a nice stretch background. Changed the Chaos axe to have more of a halberd like head - current design isn't that intimidating to me. Went in with Adobe and smoothed out the surrounding black mass so it sits better on desktops.

Still debating if I should add in the text I mentioned earlier and throw in the GW logo.

stella_wisha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

Island Of Pashar [Ruah]

Mo/R

04 Nov 2009 at 07:12 - 65

I've got to hand it to you, the details, contrast and usage of dark and light in this are incredible. I'm wondering what inspired you to position them like that, though. . it's a little unusual and makes the motion almost poetic in one sense, almost awkward in another. Your thoughts?

Charlie Dayman

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04 Nov 2009 at 07:23 - 66

Interesting question, glad you asked that. The positioning is slightly inspired from Japanese woodblock prints. In a lot of action scenes, the figures are shown usually at the height of drama. Take this print for example:

http://www.japaneseprints-london.com...s/HPIM1277.jpg

Personally, I love how they portrayed their characters in such dramatic and almost unnaturally contorted poses. It was that notion that made me set them in such dramatic stances. I also wanted it to seem as if both Warriors were evenly matched. Does my Warrior have the upper hand as he lunges for the duplicate's face with his Gladius? Or does the Doppleganger have the advantage as he holds the axe above his head, almost beckoning the other to come forward.

Overall, I think I really captured the image I originally had in my head. I wanted something very dramatic, yet simplistic. Something with the ability to present the chaos and struggle between two in the height of battle.

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

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Mo/W

04 Nov 2009 at 07:24 - 67

that is hotsauce!! hot sauce!!!

Charlie Dayman

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04 Nov 2009 at 07:30 - 68

Glad you approve, Yun.

Edit: As I mentioned before, I was thinking of adding in text and the GW logo. But thanks to Stella's question and some serious thought, I think I'll just submit it as is. I think adding in outside sources that aren't mine will almost take away from the picture's overall feeling. Not trying to sound pretentious, but that's what I'm thinking, lol.

Minami

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Dallas, TX. USA

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04 Nov 2009 at 07:33 - 69

Wow Charlie, that looks amazing!! I SO wish that I could have a chaos axe like that in-game ^_^ Looks a lot better than the original

Charlie Dayman

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04 Nov 2009 at 07:34 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minami Kaori

Wow Charlie, that looks amazing!! I SO wish that I could have a chaos axe like that in-game ^_^ Looks a lot better than the original

Also the doppelganger, man he's scary! Also looks way better than the one in-game.

Imho, you shouldn't add anything to it, the GW logo or any kind of writing might distract from the power of the image. Word.

Yeah, I wish the Chaos axe looked like that in-game. And thanks for the seconding my opinion - the picture is done and I'm not adding anything else to it unless absolutely necessary.

Minami

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04 Nov 2009 at 07:39 - 71

Aww man, mine didn't get YSJ approved.

Truly amazing work Charlie, congrats!! Now you HAVE to enter the wintersday contest too! ^_^

Charlie Dayman

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04 Nov 2009 at 07:46 - 72

Gah, I don't know if I can, Minami. I know I have two 8 page research papers due the start of December, and won't be getting the topics until a few weeks before. And I'm guessing when Tzu and them start up the new Workshop, it'll be around finals week. I'm also itching to jump at Yun's commision.

Not too sure though, it all really depends on how things unfold :\

Morag D

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UK/Austria

[bone]

04 Nov 2009 at 08:32 - 73

Awesome. Skull is awesome, axe is awesome, light effects are awesome, details are super awesome - you, my friend, could be a rich man

Minami

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04 Nov 2009 at 08:42 - 74

Yepp, true that Morag.

I hope I can get 2nd place at least....

Still more money than I've ever collectively owned.

BlueXIV

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

04 Nov 2009 at 08:46 - 75

O_O that's friggin awesome. And I dispense compliments pretty damn rarely on gurus so you know it's special XD.

Agreed with the above, don't add any text, it wouldn't add anything to the composition.

The only nitpick I might have for the piece is the way you shaded the chaos axe. The way you have it done right now doesn't look very bright, when it feels like it would be a primary source of illumination. I guess putting too much focus on that might distract the viewer though, so I'm not really sure what I'm getting at XD. Maybe make the hilt a bit brighter so it leads the eye into the focal point? :P

Man you almost make me want to enter the contest now :|

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

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04 Nov 2009 at 15:27 - 76

very awesome charlie

i love how it is just so fierce. you truly capture the rage and bloodlust of the warrior on his face, rdy to impale his doppleganger, fearless!

Charlie Dayman

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05 Nov 2009 at 02:30 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueXIV View Post

The only nitpick I might have for the piece is the way you shaded the chaos axe. The way you have it done right now doesn't look very bright, when it feels like it would be a primary source of illumination. I guess putting too much focus on that might distract the viewer though, so I'm not really sure what I'm getting at XD. I was thinking the same thing. I actually made another version with the handle a bit brighter last night: http://cubeupload.com/files/5c1c00auguryrock.jpg

But for some reason I liked the other version better. I guess I just prefer the shading at the bottom of the axe haft as it turns darker than the rest of the axe. I think it gives it a bit more surface texture and a visual indicator that the temperature drops at both ends and is the hottest in the blade, therefore the brightest area on the axe.

And thanks for the feedback, glad you like the piece

So glad this is done. So tired. I'm just gonna, lay down here for the next 48 hours.

Tommy's

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[Bone]

Mo/

05 Nov 2009 at 09:06 - 78

Never knew the fight was in the dark but it looks totaly great

Really it's beautifull. Somehow the hand of the doppelganger is so perfect. Maybe I've obsession for hands, like YSJ for feet :O

Charlie Dayman

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06 Nov 2009 at 09:37 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crucist Ovv

Never knew the fight was in the dark but it looks totaly great

Really it's beautifull. Somehow the hand of the doppelganger is so perfect. Maybe I've obsession for hands, like YSJ for feet :O Scandalous

Thanks for the feedback, everyone - I appreciate it. Hopefully I at least place in the contest this time around :P Really could use the extra cash to help complete the guild and my brother out. In any case, I'm happy with this piece. Even if I don't place, I still have a solid drawing to add to my portfolio in the long run.

hoodiestarfish

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State of Nolani

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06 Nov 2009 at 11:09 - 80

drawing looks fantastic charlie... u need to keep in mind that competitions tend to be very subjective with regard to the judges' preferences and your place in the results may not necessarily reflect your ability.

All the best for it tho