Syncing in Costume Brawl

ccReynolds

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/

Why doesn’t anet do ONE of the following...especially since you get such a huge point bonus for consecutive wins in brawl. Any of these options seem like a simple fix...

Make it international district only---so you are always pulling from a large pool of people.
Make it like team arenas/codex so you know it is organized team only--at least everyone would know teams can be formed.
Make it so that people that go to little used districts can only fight people from that district?--that way synchers wait forever before they get to fight another gold caped team C5 team.

The good team are just going to unused districts and forming. Not really much fun when well balanced high pvp ranked teams are steamrolling people from American that are formed at random.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

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Originally Posted by ccReynolds View Post
Why doesn’t anet do the following...
Because it's a fun holiday arena, lol. No.

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

people still play CB?
lawl

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Its great fun, balanced too. Syncing honestly doesn't make different in this.
Why would they try and stop syncin in this as we wont see it for another year...if anets right they may not have to do much coding at all with automated events too.
Stop crying over nothing

ccReynolds

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/

Explain how it is fun if high ranked PVP people in an organized and a balanced team play against randomly formed people that aren't as experienced? Either make it so it really IS random or make it organized teams. Not organized teams vs. people who don't know better.

I suppose you think it is fun to go to the local preschool and beat up the toddlers too.

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Originally Posted by Chrisworld View Post
Because it's a fun holiday arena, lol. No.

notskorn

notskorn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Clan Roxor

W/E

Make some friends and do it yourself

ccReynolds

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/

With that attitude why waste time developing guild wars at all? They claim they fixed syncing for random arenas...would it really be that much of a strech to do it for CB?

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Originally Posted by Pelorin Eshmar View Post
people still play CB?
lawl

Enon

Enon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Taking a dip at Nundu Bay

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Originally Posted by SmithyBen View Post
Syncing honestly doesn't make different in this.
Indeed, coordinated (KD)spikes are useless... I won't even mention that having 5 people in a team that know what they're suppose to do sucks...

Seriously Ben...

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

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Originally Posted by Pelorin Eshmar View Post
people still play CB?
lawl
Agreed, I got my Costume Brawl thrills in on the first day and left at the first sign of syncing and leavers. It's been a ToT farmers game field for most of the past week now.

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
Agreed, I got my Costume Brawl thrills in on the first day and left at the first sign of syncing and leavers. It's been a ToT farmers game field for most of the past week now.
exactly 1st day was omg this is so cool then 2nd day all fail teams come and all the syncers its dreadful...
besides at the state CB is in now skele farm is much more fun
(not to mention the profit)

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

I haven't met a single synced group and I got +/-3k gamer points this event. I don't see the problem.

kedde

kedde

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban]

Mo/A

Stop complaining.

It's boring to play with retards, so people sync.
If you're playing with random retards you won't really have anything to complain over since you'll never reach any real streaks.

Twin Blade Warriror

Twin Blade Warriror

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

I was in a guild by myself with 2 of my other accounts..but im banned now

W/

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Originally Posted by notskorn View Post
Make some friends and do it yourself
hehehe
how about u stop playing costume brawl? or take a break from it

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

it should be completely random. no formed teams.

Kaitoa

Kaitoa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/

I think everyone should RR it on the last day

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Originally Posted by kedde View Post
Stop complaining.

It's boring to play with retards, so people sync.
If you're playing with random retards you won't really have anything to complain over since you'll never reach any real streaks.
If it's random, it needs to be random. If there's a way to make a random system not random, that needs to be fixed.

If you don't like having to play with "random tards", advocate for a team arena-esque outpost for it.

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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer View Post
I haven't met a single synced group and I got +/-3k gamer points this event. I don't see the problem.
I hope you're not saying that because you haven't seen it personally that it doesn't exist?

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

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Originally Posted by kedde View Post
Stop complaining.

It's boring to play with retards, so people sync.
If you're playing with random retards you won't really have anything to complain over since you'll never reach any real streaks.
Then go play organized pvp. Obviously non-retards see that "RANDOM" means you may be teamed up with retards.
Do you see it?

BlueNovember

BlueNovember

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTS GW2 items for Zkey

Mo/

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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer View Post
I got +/-3k gamer points this event.
...
You either mean ~3k points, or <some number> +/- 3k points. I think the chances of you making negative 3k points is low =)
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Edit:
Zahr Dalsk, wth? You just repeated what he said, which is still wrong. And yes, I know what he meant, as should be obvious from what I said :\. Comprehension fail?

OT;
allowing people to form teams implies forcing people to join teams. (CA style). CB is meant to be a casual jump-in-and-play event for all, even if (us) synchers abuse it.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

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Originally Posted by BlueNovember View Post
You either mean ~3k points, or <some number> +/- 3k points. I think the chances of you making negative 3k points is low =)
He means +/- 3k points, obviously. Didn't you figure that out already by realizing that negative points is impossible?

shadows of hob

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rocky (Dragon)Mountains

Mo/Me

I just report those teams with 4-5 of the same guild. Syncing should not exist and i will do anything to ban this sickness from the game.

And CB is crap this year btw.

Silverhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Virtual Benchwarmers [VB]

CB can be fun, but it gets annoying when you play with sins who think they can solo the entire other team
So if u wanna play with halfway decent people then you(I) sync

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by ccReynolds View Post
Explain how it is fun if high ranked PVP people in an organized and a balanced team play against randomly formed people that aren't as experienced? Either make it so it really IS random or make it organized teams. Not organized teams vs. people who don't know better.

I suppose you think it is fun to go to the local preschool and beat up the toddlers too.
LOL, what the hell?

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Originally Posted by ccReynolds View Post
Make it international district only---so you are always pulling from a large pool of people.
In principle, the RA fix is intended to do this. It doesn't work. It's still very easy to sync RAs.

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Originally Posted by ccReynolds View Post
Make it like team arenas/codex so you know it is organized team only--at least everyone would know teams can be formed.
This has distributional consequences. It makes the syncers happy and deters the randoms from playing at all. You don't want to turn CB into TA.

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Originally Posted by ccReynolds View Post
Make it so that people that go to little used districts can only fight people from that district?--that way synchers wait forever before they get to fight another gold caped team C5 team.
All this does is fold everyone back into the IDs. But the hypothetical C5s could still sync this system simply by showing up in force, organizing on vent and syncing the same timer.

You can't stop syncing with anything short of bans or removing random team assignment. No fix exists. You could return everyone to the outpost after each match win or lose, and people would still sync (in force). The options are to live with it, destroy the format or persuade ANet to dedicate a lot of Support resources to effectively administering a ban policy.

For better or for worse, you're going to have to live with it.

ccReynolds

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Alvito View Post
This has distributional consequences. It makes the syncers happy and deters the randoms from playing at all. You don't want to turn CB into TA.
They spent their yearly PVP development time adding codex arenas which has this very format. I still think we need a real random format for quick pick-up games though.

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito View Post
All this does is fold everyone back into the IDs. But the hypothetical C5s could still sync this system simply by showing up in force, organizing on vent and syncing the same timer.
It would be a heck of a lot harder to get the exact party grouping, and the people you want this way. As it stands right now you are practically guaranteed the team you want.

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito View Post
You can't stop syncing with anything short of bans or removing random team assignment. No fix exists. You could return everyone to the outpost after each match win or lose, and people would still sync (in force). The options are to live with it, destroy the format or persuade ANet to dedicate a lot of Support resources to effectively administering a ban policy.
You can make it so it is not so easy. Also, how much support time would it take to go though the logs of the 30+ win streaks and see how many of the groupings don't seem very "random". Last I checked you can automate checking log files, and I think they have some programmers there.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

The mechanic behind setting up the teams doesn't seem to work properly for making truly random teams, else they would have addressed this already for things like RA in a perfect sense.

I did find it strange that they didn't do a district-mixing queue like they seem to have done for RA. They should have implemented that at the beginning, but I wasn't going to complain during the event about all the extra gamer points I felt I was going to earn by not mentioning this.