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upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

01 Nov 2009 at 21:21 - 1

As we all know the GW Stylist-dude was added as part of the 4th Year Anniversary Update. It went live on April 23rd, 2009 and it enabled modifying the appearance of our characters, something that was previously impossible. Or so it would seem.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Mesmer_armor
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:...on_armor_m.jpg

The picture was added on March 2nd, 2007.
The interesting part?
The boy is clearly a Prophecies guy, yet he has a Factions haircut.
The picture was added by Emily Diehl - an A.Net dev.

Which means that character modifications were possible at least 2 years prior to it's implementation.
Makes you wonder what other things are already possible.

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

01 Nov 2009 at 21:56 - 2

upier, I've decided that you don't really play GW, you just get in-game to buy armors and play dress up

You do raise a good point though. Maybe the devs already have an auction house going.

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

01 Nov 2009 at 21:58 - 3

it's a mistery...
where is scooby doo or smth

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

01 Nov 2009 at 22:01 - 4

This means nothing at all, it's all in the game database, haircuts are just another number in the config files.

"hairstyle= 928"
"campaign= 1"

All this really confirms is they went into the database on their offline server and changed one number in a backend database table of characters... good catch though.

Vulturion

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2009

01 Nov 2009 at 22:09 - 5

Most the offcial wiki armor models use cross-campaign combinations, and always have - nothing very special about that guy.

It did use to be frustrating though!

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

01 Nov 2009 at 22:16 - 6

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I'm trying to find the point of this post, but I've got nothin.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

01 Nov 2009 at 22:33 - 7

Dev servers...Then stuff thats not actulaly implimented.
They had to do rework the actual system to actually let us do it and thats why originally when we loaded our characters on the date they were all mixed up in models.

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

01 Nov 2009 at 22:36 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by pansy malfoy

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I'm trying to find the point of this post, but I've got nothin.

upier is a super detective!

PowerRAV

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Missouri (Central Time Zone)

N/

01 Nov 2009 at 23:13 - 9

good job Upier... now how about investigating more useful things....

snowman relic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2009

your just a meatsheild to me

N/Mo

01 Nov 2009 at 23:25 - 10

yea like y factions and nightfall is straight to the boss and easy while proph final isa pain in the *** lol

AlsPals

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sellin hot stock tips for pro[fit]

Me/E

01 Nov 2009 at 23:29 - 11

Anything is possible when you find you can charge people for it.

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

02 Nov 2009 at 00:21 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelgadissan

upier, I've decided that you don't really play GW, you just get in-game to buy armors and play dress up

It's funny 'cuz it's true!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerRAV

good job Upier... now how about investigating more useful things....

You take that back!
How can something be more useful than pretty?!?!
And if there is such a thing - I don't want to know!

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelgadissan

You do raise a good point though. Maybe the devs already have an auction house going.

Yeah, it really makes me wonder what options would need just that final push to make it into the game.
Full hero parties anyone?

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

02 Nov 2009 at 01:52 - 13

Content that's in the game but hidden until time comes to sell it at hilarious prices?

Sure is Bethesda in here!

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

02 Nov 2009 at 02:01 - 14

Maybe it's the cynic in me, but I don't see why people get upset about ridiculous Bethesda-style revenue models. You're passing off a significant share of your own prospective costs to people with skewed values willing to spend big bucks for marginal game improvements. How is this bad?

It's a win-win for you and the developer, and we have to assume it's a win for the people that actually engage in the micro-content transactions. Until ANet starts selling tangible advantages (*cough* XTH *cough*) as micro-transactions, there's no problem. The whole phenomenon just reduces the price you'd otherwise pay for the game, at the end of the day.

Sure, you'd be marginally better off if they'd give you the overpriced microcontent for free, but that would ultimately hit you in the wallet.

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

02 Nov 2009 at 02:10 - 15

or i it's because devs can change/create whatever the hell they want on some sort of dev server for testing purposes. uhDURRRRRR.

what do you think when the devs were editing the room duncan the black is in they had to log into guild wars and manually play through the dungeon until they got to the last room and saw how it looked? if you can be brave for a second and use your brain, you'd find logic in a lot of everyday things that most likely baffle you right now.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

02 Nov 2009 at 03:43 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gift3d

what do you think when the devs were editing the room duncan the black is in they had to log into guild wars and manually play through the dungeon until they got to the last room and saw how it looked?

One assumes they generally don't actually play the game, if one looks at the state of PvE balance.

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

02 Nov 2009 at 09:23 - 17

Emily could well have used the modelling tools that are used by content creators to create NPCs, armors, etc. so this may not have been a feature that was available in game for everyone to toy with.

For all we can tell it could be a photoshop! (as she's a graphic designer I believe)

EDIT:

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

Full hero parties anyone?

This is different, it's a completely conscious decision of designers (not programmers or marketing or ...) so that the game doesn't go into certain types of gameplay (e.g. total solo play? no more pugging, etc.)

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

E/

02 Nov 2009 at 09:39 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

Which means that character modifications were possible at least 2 years prior to it's implementation.
Makes you wonder what other things are already possible.

Hurr, they're the ones making the game and player models are made of different parts you can choose. Obviously it's always been possible, but it has to be economically convenient before they do it.