A few questions for all artists
ammad2006
I've been on Guru on and off for about a year, but today was my first time actually visiting Nolani's. And I have to say I was amazed.
Some of you guys really are just amazing artists. Some of these pieces literally made my jaw drop.
I've been trying to learn how to draw a little better because I am an avid Web creator and knowing basic design skills can go a long way.
The problem is I am a terrible artist to be frank. In my defense, the thought of even attempting to draw had never crossed my mind until now.
Which brings me to the point of this post. I have a few questions for all you artist that I would for you to answer.
Were you guys born with a talent for drawing or did you start off terrible and gradually improved? In other words, is drawing an inherited or learned trait?
What tips do you have for someone like me that is interested in creating his own masterpieces.
What mediums do you guys use. Pencil and paper, digital, etc.
Building on the last questions, what programs do you guys use in retouching your art. I have photo shop because I need it for the website creation but what else do you recommend?
Do you have any good websites/programs that you find to helpful in improving art skills?
Thank you all!
Some of you guys really are just amazing artists. Some of these pieces literally made my jaw drop.
I've been trying to learn how to draw a little better because I am an avid Web creator and knowing basic design skills can go a long way.
The problem is I am a terrible artist to be frank. In my defense, the thought of even attempting to draw had never crossed my mind until now.
Which brings me to the point of this post. I have a few questions for all you artist that I would for you to answer.
Were you guys born with a talent for drawing or did you start off terrible and gradually improved? In other words, is drawing an inherited or learned trait?
What tips do you have for someone like me that is interested in creating his own masterpieces.
What mediums do you guys use. Pencil and paper, digital, etc.
Building on the last questions, what programs do you guys use in retouching your art. I have photo shop because I need it for the website creation but what else do you recommend?
Do you have any good websites/programs that you find to helpful in improving art skills?
Thank you all!
Charlie Dayman
Welcome back to the boards.
Q. Were you guys born with a talent for drawing or did you start off terrible and gradually improved? Been drawing for as long as I can remember.
A. My father's entire side of the family is the creative bunch: artists, musicians, etc. I was just lucky enough to inherit that side while my brother got the brains :P
Q. What tips do you have for someone like me that is interested in creating his own masterpieces.
A. Try to find an idea you're genuinely excited about. It will usually strike you as a sudden feeling of inspiration/motivation to create something amazing. From there on out, just find yourself a comfortable setting and proper atmosphere to help your creative ideas flow. For me, all it takes is a little bit of brainstorming, proper tunes, and some tea.
Q. What mediums do you guys use.
A. Primarily pencil. Though I do use paint/charcoal on occasion along with Photoshop. Also have a small bit of experience with basic modeling/compiling, though nothing on par with folks like Minami: http://dog.fpsbanana.com/ss/skins/45392.jpg
Q. Building on the last questions, what programs do you guys use in retouching your art. I have photo shop because I need it for the website creation but what else do you recommend?
A. Photoshop is a pretty solid program. But I'm not exactly the most experienced artist with computer programs - best to ask some of the other artists on the board.
Q. Were you guys born with a talent for drawing or did you start off terrible and gradually improved? Been drawing for as long as I can remember.
A. My father's entire side of the family is the creative bunch: artists, musicians, etc. I was just lucky enough to inherit that side while my brother got the brains :P
Q. What tips do you have for someone like me that is interested in creating his own masterpieces.
A. Try to find an idea you're genuinely excited about. It will usually strike you as a sudden feeling of inspiration/motivation to create something amazing. From there on out, just find yourself a comfortable setting and proper atmosphere to help your creative ideas flow. For me, all it takes is a little bit of brainstorming, proper tunes, and some tea.
Q. What mediums do you guys use.
A. Primarily pencil. Though I do use paint/charcoal on occasion along with Photoshop. Also have a small bit of experience with basic modeling/compiling, though nothing on par with folks like Minami: http://dog.fpsbanana.com/ss/skins/45392.jpg
Q. Building on the last questions, what programs do you guys use in retouching your art. I have photo shop because I need it for the website creation but what else do you recommend?
A. Photoshop is a pretty solid program. But I'm not exactly the most experienced artist with computer programs - best to ask some of the other artists on the board.
Widowmaker
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A. Photoshop is a pretty solid program. But I'm not exactly the most experienced artist with computer programs - best to ask some of the other artists on the board.
I think it's safe to say the resounding answer from the majority of the artists here will be Photoshop and a tablet of some sort.
Charlie Dayman
Widowmaker
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Ah, just wanted to make sure. Don't want to be pulling answers out of the air.
Oh I know, I was just confirming you were correct in what you were saying.
Duranin
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It would be interesting if the artists on Nolani collected together some of their art over the years for comparison on how much they have improved.
Quote: What tips do you have for someone like me that is interested in creating his own masterpieces. Experiment and research shamelessly. Even though I'm still (unfortunately) trapped in the anime/nonpaintrealism art genre, I came a long way from stick figures through studying pieces by artists I admire and trying to figure out what it was about their style/technique that I liked so much... and then to apply it to my own art. It seems unoriginal at first, but as I create my own art what I learned from other artists naturally gets modified and incorporated into my own style.
I have no clue how this works for other schools of art. I've found absolutely no luck with the "observe and analyze" approach when trying to work on my painting skills.
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What mediums do you guys use. Pencil and paper, digital, etc.
Paint Tool SAI and an Intuos3. I may be getting a new tablet for new years. I also do some pencil/pen/paper sketching and Prismacolor marker colouring. I'm bad at pencil shading Quote:
Digital is, really, rather difficult. People seem to have this notion that the program does all the work and all you do is sit there and push a few buttons. But it's not the case at all.
Maybe it's just me, and the fact that even with a tablet I can't accurately draw something on the computer, but really the main reason I like digital (as in, drawing/painting digitally) is because of Ctrl+Z. It's not as easy to correct mistakes when you're drawing something on paper as even pencil can be difficult to erase fully (should hear some of the strings of swearwords that come from me when I screw up inking something, because short of scraping the ink off with a knife, there is no way of fixing that). Quote:
Granted, it does make me somewhat more sloppy - rather than trying to get a line correct the first time, my left hand just camps the lower left corner of the keyboard and I just do wild strokes over and over until one of them looks like what I want. Doesn't really help build hand control. lol I enjoy the challenge that comes with traditional art, but it's also really frustrating to have an entire picture 'ruined' because your hand twitched a little bit on a detailed part of the lineart, or because your marker/pen suddenly had a nosebleed. >_> Quote:
See, I know I'm not going to get a line right - ever. I simply cannot draw a straight line to save my life; it either is completely not straight at all, or wavers/is slightly bumpy. So I had to draw things much more sketchily in order to get it looking halfway decent at all.
And oh my god don't start me on leaky pens >.< I nearly cried/screamed last week when inking an assignment for design, picked up my ruler, and discovered that my effing micron pen decided that BLEEDING ALL OVER THE PLACE would be a good idea. And of course it was just as I was finishing up so starting over would require tossing out a couple hours worth of work. I refuse to ever use that pen again with a ruler. Also, Photoshop really isn't a vector program; you can make vector-style art with it, but not a true vector. Illustrator is what you want for that. Quote:
yup. agreed. and let's face it: if you've read all this, and still want to give it a go, JUST DO IT! be prepared to be rubbish at first, and that things don't turn out the way you want them to. happens to all of us
My dad is the creative half of my parents, he used to draw and paint a lot when he was younger. My mum can't draw a stick figure to save her life, and wouldn't even be mad at me for saying so. As for me, creativity has always been a big part of me, be it in drawing, painting, building, flower arrangements, room design/decoration, gift wrappings, laying the table, down to the way I write my (oldschool) letters [I have a personal seal, and wax and stuff for proper win]. I can't do things the ordinary way. Can be a curse if you tend to leave things to the last minute and then freak out over the freaking ribbon you bought because it isn't the freaking same shade of blue as the stripes on the freaking paper. Creativity is something that's constantly bubbling somewhere inside me, with more or less energetic outbreaks at irregular intervals. But it is always there. I believe that technical skills can be aquired, to a certain point, through hard practice, determination and enthusiasm. But for a piece to be special, to be something that wows other people, I think you do need some talent. A feel for shapes, colours, general aesthetics. To be inspired by other people's art, and learn from it in a constructive way. I think you're the only one that can decide whether you've got that talent, and what you want to make of it. Go and try out different techniques, find something that you like, and practice. practice. practice. And guess what: it helps! Art is not about talking about it. It's about DOING! I don't have a set style. I do abstract this week and semi-realistic the next, with some comic and photography to round it off. Which means that I will never be distinguished or recognisable in a certain field, but on the other hand will never get bored. I love to experiment, and to do stuff I like (and to hell with popularity and general trends). I listen to constructive critique, and look at looooads of other people's art. When I'm working digitally, I use Photoshop and a graphic tablet (but that is really only of any use if you know how to draw stuff in the first place tbh). As for traditional media, I seem to be a pencil person. I also generally prefer drawing over painting. I'm practicing portraits at the moment (not as much as I would like because I have a very busy life), and I'll give you an example of progress (in the order they are in my sketchbook): ... some examples from a period of around 3-4 months of (very) irregular practice. It can be done, methinks Minami
Were you guys born with a talent for drawing or did you start off terrible and gradually improved? In other words, is drawing an inherited or learned trait?
Everybody has to learn a lot. With that said, some people can learn things easier than others. For one person it might take a lot shorter time to learn correct posing and lighting than for the other. It's almost like learning a new language. What tips do you have for someone like me that is interested in creating his own masterpieces. Practice, practice, practice. Don't be discouraged if your first drawings don't look exactly the way you imagined it. It takes a while for your hands to be able to create what your mind envisions. Imagination is very important... I mean, how intense your imagination is. A good test for that is this... Read the following, then close your eyes and try your best to imagine what you read (if you don't like oranges, then try it with lemon or something ): You have a nice, big, juicy orange in front of you. You start peeling it, and smell the scent of the orange. Without pulling the slices apart, you take a huge bite out of it. If your mouth started to water like crazy and you can almost smell the orange, your imagination is very strong, and you can see pictures very clear in your mind. That's a very good thing when you want to create your own art. What mediums do you guys use. Pencil and paper, digital, etc. I use DAZ Studio for my 3D scenes setup. Building on the last questions, what programs do you guys use in retouching your art. I have photo shop because I need it for the website creation but what else do you recommend? I use GIMP, together with my trusty Wacom Bamboo *I know, I'm a sucker for good free programs * Do you have any good websites/programs that you find to helpful in improving art skills? I usually tinker with program setting to see what they do, and if I like the result, I remember it. I used to read 3D World for tips on more advanced things like subsurface scattering and such, but after I learned that, there was no need for me to buy it. You should choose a medium that you feel most comfortable with. It might take a little time for you to discover what it is you like the best. Now a little diversion into the world of 3D... Bear with me if you will 3D is very different than traditional art, and some people might say that 3D is so much easier to do. There are some serious trade offs between the two art styles. For example, in 3D it's almost impossible to get body proportions and posing wrong, since you're spinning dials to pose an already made figure, while in drawing you have to spend a lot of time perfecting the way the bodyparts look in the pose you're thinking of. However, in surfaces and lighting, while drawing, you draw textures and highlights, you draw glass see through and such (I'm not trying to make it sound easy, just shortened it... none of these things are easy to draw so it shows up correctly... please don't misunderstand what I'm trying to say, it's 4 am and my native language is not English ). In 3D, you have to tell the program how to calculate the diffuse color and strength, Specular strength, glossiness, color and whether you want multiplying through opacity, ambient settings, opacity, bump, displacement, reflection, refraction, lighting model, UV maps (if different from default), smoothness, subsurface scattering, etc etc etc.... so many setting you have to know what they all do and have to be able to set up correctly so that your champagne glass you're trying to render doesn't look 6 inches thick... And these are only the surface settings for the models themselves. Lighting is a whole other mess that's very difficult to do correctly. Spot light, point light, distant light, camera settings, focus points... It's very easy to make your whole scene look bad with a bad lighting position or too much light strength, too weak a color. Mind you, what I'm explaining here is applicable to when you're setting up a scene. Creating your own 3D models and textures... well... let's not go there now, it's 4 AM So as you can see, traditional art and 3D art is in fact very different, and one is not easier to do than the other, even if someone tells you that 3D only consist of you dressing up virtual dolls. Sorry for the huge post (probably my biggest ever LOL), just thought I'll give you (and anyone else interested) some insight of what goes into creating a 3D scene. EDIT: Here are some AMAZING 3D art that deals with realism. Some of my favorite pictures... #3 might be NSFW... http://features.cgsociety.org/newgal...6242_large.jpg http://features.cgsociety.org/newgal...0209_large.jpg http://features.cgsociety.org/newgal...5486_large.jpg http://features.cgsociety.org/newgal...0358_large.jpg Yes... They're entirely 3D.... *drools* hoodiestarfish
minami, those pics are wicked. i did do 3d but i don't enjoy it as much as design and illustration. i went to an artschool where we all did Maya for 16 hrs a day minimum, but i did learn alot of it and might return to it again some point when i'm bored of 2D. Art has so many directions u can take, everyone's journey is pretty amazing.
Yasmine
minami, your ritualist is advertising carrara pro? :O
Minami
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Wow that's neat!