Guild wars build

12 spawn, 12 death, 3 restoration.

Discord, Explosive growth, Spirits gift, Animate Bone Minions, Death Nova, Animate shambling horror, Flesh of my flesh, and if you have issues with energy management then toss boon of creation on there or use whatever else you want.

Every time it casts animate minions, 112 lightning damage to 5 targets at corpse, 82 health and 2 conditions removed, 82 self heal and 10 energy. (If you use all 3 buffs.) + 85 damage and poison for any minions that blow up due to death/going over minion count. Not to mention the 94 point discords. This is strictly inferior to a necro bomber.
And the reason why running this doesn't make sense is because you end up shifting something that a necro would excel at to a ritualist, whereas you are shifting something that a ritualist would excel at to the necro.

The problem is that the spawning enches aren't good.
You want the healing you get from Spirit's Gift?
Dwayna's Sorrow is better.
You want condition removal?
Foul Feast is better.
Non targeted, non-armour ignoring damage also can't make up for the fact that you could be running a monk secondary and achieving Aegis chains, and spam PS. The bomber should be doing nothing more than making minions, blowing them up and discording. That's it's job in this team. Cycle the corpses into explosions to move on.

Dwayna's sorrow? Should not be on the bomber. Foul feast? Should not be on the bomber. Aegis? Should not be on the bomber.

The bomber should be casting Animate Bone Minions, Death Nova, and Discord. Really, anything else is stopping this build from doing what it is meant to do.

Explosive, Boon, and Gift can all be precast before combat/corpses to use.

Gift (That you point out specifically) is actually the least useful of the buffs. Fine throw it out. Not necessary. Fill with what you want. Might I suggest empowerment (+39 max health and +10 energy to all the pwk heroes, as well as +41 heal to the rit for 0 energy and a 3/4 cast time? As well as helping to fulfill the "No sac when spirit in range" of the healers.)

so u wanna tell me u got 3 minion masters in ur party?
putting Rt/N instead of the minion master i got now wouldn't solve my problem
remmember i need something instead of the N/Mo Discord Partyhealer no no no, lol. not 3 MM's. have ur partner switch his mm to the N/MO discord partyhealer, and then bring a rit as an MM to replace the necro that he just switched to healing. So u have ur same necros. Your partner has rt/n MM, discord necro, and N/MO discord healer.

The bomber should be doing nothing more than making minions, blowing them up and discording. That's it's job in this team. Cycle the corpses into explosions to move on.

Dwayna's sorrow? Should not be on the bomber. Foul feast? Should not be on the bomber. Aegis? Should not be on the bomber.

The bomber should be casting Animate Bone Minions, Death Nova, and Discord. Really, anything else is stopping this build from doing what it is meant to do.

Explosive, Boon, and Gift can all be precast before combat/corpses to use.

Gift (That you point out specifically) is actually the least useful of the buffs. Fine throw it out. Not necessary. Fill with what you want. Might I suggest empowerment (+39 max health and +10 energy to all the pwk heroes, as well as +41 heal to the rit for 0 energy and a 3/4 cast time? As well as helping to fulfill the "No sac when spirit in range" of the healers.) The MM has more than enough time to throw up an Aegis every thirty seconds, and would only need a couple of Dwaynas Sorrows to result is big party healing when the minions go boom. I agree FF is meh, heroes do not use it so well, the rpots they can take provide geat party defence.
Also remember that the damage from explosive growth will not always be there, enemies will not always be huddled around a corpse.

The MM has more than enough time to throw up an Aegis every thirty seconds, and would only need a couple of Dwaynas Sorrows to result is big party healing when the minions go boom. I agree FF is meh, heroes do not use it so well, the rpots they can take provide geat party defence.
Also remember that the damage from explosive growth will not always be there, enemies will not always be huddled around a corpse. I'm not saying not to use Aegis or Dwaynas. Just that the bomber should not be doing it. The healer necro should have Dwaynas. The prot and players should bring aegis to cause the chain (Especially since heroes do not chain like players can.)

Same reason that I really dislike putrid bile, ancestors rage, and splinter weapon being on my bombers. Their attention gets pulled in too many directions.

They split their time up between casting bile, rage, or splinter when their time is much better spent doing what they are supposed to do. Creating and blowing up minions.

Of course the damage from explosive may not hit other targets. Same with death nova damage. Minion may die running between a target that just died and one further away causing no damage. Doesn't mean that we should stop pusing death nova because it's possible to deal no damage with it. We use it because much of the time it does have an effect.

Many many times enemies are near corpses. Especially if you have a good puller/baller.

I'm not saying not to use Aegis or Dwaynas. Just that the bomber should not be doing it. The healer necro should have Dwaynas. The prot and players should bring aegis to cause the chain (Especially since heroes do not chain like players can.)


Of course the damage from explosive may not hit other targets. Same with death nova damage. Minion may die running between a target that just died and one further away causing no damage. Doesn't mean that we should stop pusing death nova because it's possible to deal no damage with it. We use it because much of the time it does have an effect. @ point 1: My mistake, I forgot this was about the 6man discordway. In the case of 3 man I find it advantageous to have an extra source of prots and party heals.

@Point 2: My point was simply that if you were trying to calculate the damage you must be carefull not to include it at its maximum output. Death Nova's damage is irrelevant as it applies to both builds.