New ideas for UWSC

Attack&Defend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2009

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Hey guys!
I was in ToA the other day and saw all the permas whining about quiting GW since they can't do UWSC anymore. So; i decided i'd start a thread of possible ideas for a new UWSC! (right to the point :P)

so my first idea was kinnda oldschool, i plan on calling it unsteady-way.

basiclly this build consists of:
- two permas (basic stuff, shadow santuary for heals, deaths charge)
- two unsteady ground Eles. ( this is mainly for the KD affect, and could be changed with MS i guess, but for now its unsteady earth, also, should this get echo'd? or mabye just on one?)
- Two RoJ monks (i love this skill! its so old school , one would be mo/me as to arcane echo it, the other a ranger, more on that later.)

So, we are up to 6 party members, now i was thinking. this leaves room for quite a few alternatives; here was my ideas for the last two.
A) a 600/smite team (added speed.)
B) an MoP / triple shot+ splinter wep combo to kill skeles.
C) a party healing monk (UA for rezzes) and ethier a spirit spammer or another nuker, or perma.

so heres how it works
1. perma collects aggro, second one moves into position to body block.
2. (if using EoE) this would go on the triple shot ranger, if that stays, if not on a monk, whod also bring Ebon battle standard.
3. unsteady eles cast. (what other skills could they have thatd do AoE? focusing on the Earth chain, but would work with fire to i guess.)
4. RoJ monks use BuH( good or bad idea?) and nuke the mob. one has echo so it is 3 RoJs hitting the knocked down mob. this will allow them to not scatter, if the body block fails.
5. move onto next mob.

Now, all feed back is accepted. You may notice questions in brackets, thats where you guys come in!
Anyone want to help test this? i could do RoJ, but i cant test it all.


thanks in advance, and P.S i think this could become very PuG friendly, and for added speed a conset could be used, and the teams could be devided.
1 perma, 1 US ele, 1 RoJ each. thatd require more testing. I crunched some numbers, and the 3 RoJs + 2 US = 1140 damage, now thats not with Ebon battle standard, EoE, Splinter (if used) or the BuH/intensity bonuses. Now if you echo'd the USG it would hit about 1560 dmg, that's in 5 seconds.


P.P.S any new ideas could also be posted here, and turned into a sticky if you want,

jackinthe

Krytan Explorer

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- Two RoJ monks (i love this skill! its so old school , one would be mo/me as to arcane echo it, the other a ranger, more on that later.) i lol'd.
permas still uwsc btw.

Attack&Defend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2009

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yes, this is just new ways to do it. i know the saying don't fix something that's not broken, but if dhumm is as big as it's anticipated, there's an alternative. Plus i'm sure some people are willing to make a new way.

and if you don't have something to add don't comment. thanks

Braxton619

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Perma way is probably faster than this technique.

Eragon Zarroc

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idk, the only way this would be picked up is if it is faster, the same speed, or only slightly slower than current adjusted speed-clear method. You would have to test it with veteran players that know what they are doing and can communicate very well with one another (aka vent). then for public to pick it up, you would have to start training people in it and a very detailed walkthrough and/or video would be extremely helpful as well. trying to find people to help from guru prolly isn't the best way to go about it ;-)

Attack&Defend

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Join Date: Nov 2009

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thanks, mathiastemplar. Yeah, i was just throwing ideas out there for the other 2 spots to fill.

and Eragon I'm not here for testing help. I just want to get a couple other oppioions on the build, mabye some one else's ideas on it. So once i know more about the builds we can start templates/ videos/ training.
thanks for all the help =)

Crippie its Tom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

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mobway and/or monkway>this any day.

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Attack&Defend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2009

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hey killer minds, as much as i appreciate you thinking this is balanced im going to say, a perma + a nuker + an RoJ is in no way balanced, thanks for making yourself look foolish on my thread your doing a great job.
Mobway/ 600'ing (nice rename, stolen fame is right and I've heard of mobway taking up to an hour. really? you'd like to pay for cons or just BU's for an hour? no thanks. also INCASE the two who are trying to flame this didn't read, this is for new ways. BUT thanks for adding something to the build really i love it. If you two can do better, do it lol.

Crippie its Tom

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Alright Attack, I'll do just that.

Mobway took an hour and 8 minutes on their first ever run. Thats where the rumor came from, when they posed to prove that it was possible.

Most team builds on PvX are stolen fame, if you made an amazing build that netted you a ton of cash, you probably wouldnt want it stolen.

But honestly, unless you name the build after yourself (see: Sabway), no fame will be involved.

Attack&Defend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2009

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fine, BUILDS RENAMED: aad-way :P
and i havn't tested this, whos to say it won't be faster then mob-way?

secondly no one has enough faith to steal this build

Crippie its Tom

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I think manly spike or splinter barrage would do better here as RoJ causes scatter very quickly in HM these days

Attack&Defend

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cripple its tom, see thats the beauty of it, unsteady ground causes a knock down effect. and theres a perma body blocking it to start. I know RoJ scatters, and im still trying to get it tested. but from what i've seen when using unsteady they can't scatter. Thanks for pointing that out tho.

& at coney, mhm new idea. if your just going to comment permaway kicks ass, blah blah blah that's cool. i'm asking ways to improve this, or any other builds that arn't 7/8 permas being mindless drones. thanks anyways

Crippie its Tom

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why not mass meteor shower too? bring 4 eles and maybe you can quarterlock them XD

Attack&Defend

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there we go! thats what i'm looking for, other ideas. and yes, there's two spots. 2 meteor shower ele's could easily fit into the build
only catch is, ms has a 60 recharge, and 5 second cast. unsteady has a 20 and a 2. same as RoJ. and Unsteady has a 5 second time of effect (?) same as Roj. so i just thought it'd sync nicely. But having a meteor shower ele could be very helpful to, since MS has some pretty decent damage. thanks crip. keep 'em coming

Attack&Defend

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ya i was thinking that after i posted the title lmao, and i was hoping it'd also bring some other people who had ideas for a new SC without depending sololy on permas.

kitrar

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Join Date: Oct 2009

Attack you seem to be on to something. It seems you are being bashed like i have been many times for creating something new. but if you succeed you rise into the ranks where everyone who bashed will want your builds. I have been experimenting with something similar. Ignore those guys the are the ones who will only use something until wiki says it is useless. It is people like you that bring joy to the game. Why do mind numbing run after mind numbing run when you can mix up your runs with different builds and get the same stuff but play a different roll. I will check into this a little more.

PoM PoM PoM PoM PoM

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Cuilan

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Anyone willing to include some mesmer players? I'm surprised anyone would even consider a paragon.

Attack&Defend

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2009

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cuilan, my friend mention'd a Mesmer, now it was something that'd fit into the last two spots of the Unsteady-way (which i believe could be devided into two teams, just requires echos for same effect) and it was a mass interupting mesmer. Sounds like something mesmers do? lol, and basiclly it is a cryer, with some other interupts for 4H. i wonder if this would positively affect the build or not, if anyones intrested in testing I'm Est as far as timezone's go.
send me something ingame, if you'd like to help test/work on templates.

Thanks kitkar, nice to see some positivity in Guru, just when i thought it was all trolls
pom pom, please do! I'm very intrested in other ways then Perma-way & for anyone reading this thread, feel free to post your UW ideas/ screenshots.

Crippie its Tom

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Modified mobway FTW =D


@iTwigiht I didnt read that, figured he'd be using a classic obby tank or something.


Im working on a build that I think can hit below 30 minutes. It's in my PvX Userspace for storage atm if you're gunna bother looking for it (The_Crippster). Ofc its not finished and barely tested, but we'll see how it goes. I'll get my guild to try some runs.

Attack&Defend

Ascalonian Squire

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i said permas, i figured you'd read the post indepth before deciding to comment

Crippie its Tom

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actually I'd guess 1-6 as main team, possibly splitting for first bit of vale and chamber with sins doing chamber and para monk SS doing vale. The 2 A/E's would to Mountains, Pools, and pop reapers in various locations to teleport the main team for quests as needed (4h)

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mob way..
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_UWSC_Mobway

Crippie its Tom

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http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team-_UWSC_Cripway


Imma get my alliance to try a few test runs of this and I'll post pics if the time is ass spanking.

Attack&Defend

Ascalonian Squire

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can't wait to see that crippie, hope all goes well post pics even if it's just a medi-core time too please? or just post a time even

Crippie its Tom

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New URL- People didn't like the name.
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_UWSC_Splitway

@Awkard- Cool! I haven't gotten a chance to test it 8/8 yet, but please wisp me if you ever need a spot, and post pics of times.... My alliance will prolly test soon this week.

As for vale, you are correct.


Here's what I came up with-

Vale 600- Replace PI with Light Of Deldrimor, Snow Storm, or nothing if energy does not permit

Vale Smite- Replace Purge Signet with Ray of Judgement. Replace UA with Rebirth

Have the Vale 600 bring a 55 armor set. Once on to the quest, the 600 should only be enchanted with Balthazar's spirit and Blessed Aura, as well as on his 55 set. he must maintain SoA and Protective Spirit at all times on himself. Once the tortured spirits are attacking him, smack em with an RoJ (since there is only three of them, they should not scatter). I dont know if 1 RoJ is enough to kill them, if not use Snowstorm or wait 15 seconds for the recharge.


Also the idea is that the perma is able to solo mountains and pools, incase you didnt get that before. Did you finish the run?