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Or is a banning for use of "inappropriate language" absolutely ridiculous? Chat filter, there is one on the game for gods sakes.

I may be whining about this because I just got served a seventy two, but, even so. Anyone else agree with me?


A guy in ab (who woulda thunkit in ab really?) Called me a queer, to which i responded that he was a homophobe, to which he told me to shut up before he comes to my house, rapes my mother, and bones my dog. So, I told him to shut his C-ck holster before I come over there and f___ start his mouth, he reported me. I think that they should review the chat log too on reports such as this, if someone uses deliberately offensive and "inappropriate" language, then reports someone else for such, their report should be disregarded imo.

I'm not being a typical whiner because my account is currently temp banned, infact, I'm okay with serving my temp ban because of the way the rules currently are set up, I just wish the banning process and rules would be reviewed and revised for the future, for the benefit of all.

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce View Post
Or is a banning for use of "inappropriate language" absolutely ridiculous? Chat filter, there is one on the game for gods sakes.

I may be whining about this because I just got served a seventy two, but, even so. Anyone else agree with me?


A guy in ab (who woulda thunkit in ab really?) Called me a queer, to which i responded that he was a homophobe, to which he told me to shut up before he comes to my house, rapes my mother, and bones my dog. So, I told him to shut his C-ck holster before I come over there and f___ start his mouth, he reported me. I think that they should review the chat log too on reports such as this, if someone uses deliberately offensive and "inappropriate" language, then reports someone else for such, their report should be disregarded imo.

I'm not being a typical whiner because my account is currently temp banned, infact, I'm okay with serving my temp ban because of the way the rules currently are set up, I just wish the banning process and rules would be reviewed and revised for the future, for the benefit of all.

Well if what you are saying is true, and that guy did report you, hes probably banned too, because they will check the logs, my guess is someone else in the AB reported you for it,

See here is your lesson, next time instead of mouthing off, just use the /report then the /ignore and that will = problem solved.

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Chat filter is not a license to violate the EULA. Of which you agreed to not use foul language.

Ban appropriate.

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Originally Posted by Kumu Honua View Post
Chat filter is not a license to violate the EULA. Of which you agreed to not use foul language.

Ban appropriate.
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I'm not being a typical whiner because my account is currently temp banned, infact, I'm okay with serving my temp ban because of the way the rules currently are set up, I just wish the banning process and rules would be reviewed and revised for the future, for the benefit of all.
Reading, you should do it sometime.

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Do you know if the other guy was banned?

(More than likely you don't. I'm just making a point.)

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Do you know if the other guy was banned?

(More than likely you don't. I'm just making a point.)
You do have a rather fine point my good sir, but seeing as my account is banned, and I'm not going to hop on a secondary to find out, as that would be circumventing a ban, and I don't violate EULA (except i guess by telling idiots where to stick it i guess). I shall wait for someone to log onto my ventrillo, and ask them to f-list them, we shall see.

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Or is a banning for use of "inappropriate language" absolutely ridiculous? Chat filter, there is one on the game for gods sakes.
It is absolutely ridiculous, unless its racism of course. People leave the filter off that would otherwise prevent them being offended (if they're weird) or seeing language they shouldn't (if they're young), just so that they have something to complain about.

I got banned/warned constantly on LOTRO for swearing, and when I told the GM's they should just stfu and turn on the filter, he responds with "its not in-game as an excuse for people to swear" or something dumb.

Not to mention most MMO's are rated teen or mature, at which age i'd assume being subject to swearing is perfectly normal, unless the person likes living in a bubble. (and then as already said, if you don't like seeing swearing, turn on the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing filter)

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It is absolutely ridiculous, unless its racism of course. People leave the filter off that would otherwise prevent them being offended (if they're weird) or seeing language they shouldn't (if they're young), just so that they have something to complain about.

I got banned/warned constantly on LOTRO for swearing, and when I told the GM's they should just stfu and turn on the filter, he responds with "its not in-game as an excuse for people to swear" or something dumb.

Not to mention most MMO's are rated teen or mature, at which age i'd assume being subject to swearing is perfectly normal, unless the person likes living in a bubble. (and then as already said, if you don't like seeing swearing, turn on the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing filter)

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Racism, sexism, culturally insensitive statements, ban a mofo for it, telling someone to shut up, or that they are an arsehat, especially if they did so to you first, please don't ban me for it. That's all I ask.

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Racism, sexism, culturally insensitive statements, ban a mofo for it, telling someone to shut up, or that they are an arsehat, especially if they did so to you first, please don't ban me for it. That's all I ask.
I'm actually permanently banned from LOTRO for apparently ignoring previous warnings about swearing (though I did actually cut it out in public channels, which leads me to think they probably don't even check the logs half the time).

It's pretty hilarious. I thought we were playing online games aimed at teens/adults, not going to church.

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I'm actually permanently banned from LOTRO for apparently ignoring previous warnings about swearing (though I did actually cut it out in public channels, which leads me to think they probably don't even check the logs half the time).

It's pretty hilarious. I thought we were playing online games aimed at teens/adults, not going to church.

My point exactly.

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If someone reports you in local, Anet will look through alliance, guild, and whisper chat for offenses even though the person reporting you had no access to those chats.

This means that if you merely dislike someone and false report them for language violations, there is a good chance that they will eat a ban for a language violation.

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If someone reports you in local, Anet will look through alliance, guild, and whisper chat for offenses even though the person reporting you had no access to those chats.

This means that if you merely dislike someone and false report them for language violations, there is a good chance that they will eat a ban for a language violation.
I already knew this, and that pisses me off aswell, I admit it, I'm a generally vulgar individual, I have a mouth like a sailor because I was raised by sailors, but I also generally keep that to only in close company and joking around with friends, I very rarely say anything farther than "shut up" to anyone else.

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If someone reports you in local, Anet will look through alliance, guild, and whisper chat for offenses even though the person reporting you had no access to those chats.

This means that if you merely dislike someone and false report them for language violations, there is a good chance that they will eat a ban for a language violation.
That is so good to know. Thanks for that

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This means that if you merely dislike someone and false report them for language violations, there is a good chance that they will eat a ban for a language violation.
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That is so good to know. Thanks for that
Oh dear god, I think you've created a monster.

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Oh dear god, I think you've created a monster.
Hahahaha , you are right. Those "verbal violations" have a double edge imo. If he said what you said , he should have been banned too .

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Hahahaha , you are right. Those "verbal violations" have a double edge imo. If he said what you said , he should have been banned too .
Unfortunately I didn't report him in return, I don't generally do that because anet doesn't have me on payroll as an officer of the peace in this game, therefor it is not my job.

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My point exactly.
Gotta love the English-Americanish culture. You guys can't even swear even if you wanted, given your language restrictions. It's like what? 2 swearing words in total? And those two words cause so much drama that it's hilarious. Look at this forum even. In my mother tongue I can turn into a swearing almost any possible word and there are so many swear words that I can talk for 5 mins only using those.

However on these forums and in these games, there are people out there so immature that all they do all day long is sit there and wait for someone to do something that they might interpret as a personal offence. And when they hear it! OMG OMG they have to report it, because it's their duty, they live of the harm and punishment they get to apply to others for "breaking the rules". It's their only satisfaction, the climax of the day. They've been useful to society, they've detected the f word in a sentence and asked for bans/revenge/retaliation/etc.

For any mature person on this planet, the f word is just that: a word like any other.

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Unfortunately I didn't report him in return
And thus they only checked Joe's chat. Because clearly if someone wasn't reported, then they weren't doing anything wrong.

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Gotta love the English-Americanish culture. You guys can't even swear even if you wanted, given your language restrictions. It's like what? 2 swearing words in total? And those two words cause so much drama that it's hilarious. Look at this forum even. In my mother tongue I can turn into a swearing almost any possible word and there are so many swear words that I can talk for 5 mins only using those.

However on these forums and in these games, there are people out there so immature that all they do all day long is sit there and wait for someone to do something that they might interpret as a personal offence. And when they hear it! OMG OMG they have to report it, because it's their duty, they live of the harm and punishment they get to apply to others for "breaking the rules". It's their only satisfaction, the climax of the day. They've been useful to society, they've detected the f word in a sentence and asked for bans/revenge/retaliation/etc.

For any mature person on this planet, the f word is just that: a word like any other.

Further reinforcing my point, because does the EULA not say you have to be a certain age and such to play this game?

I'd hope this age requirement is intended to set a level of expected maturity.

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Reading, you should do it sometime.
I read perfectly fine. I was responding to "Or is a banning for use of "inappropriate language" absolutely ridiculous?"

Perhaps it is you that needs to read a little bit.

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Ahhhh the beauty of playing with people on vent. I can rage and swear all i want!!!!!!!

Its awesome. As for swearing, its all just bullshit. Not being ironic but it is. Its completely a matter of if the kid your playing against is a big enough prick to report you, and if Anet randomly decides to look over and accept the report ban. I've sworn up and down and cussed a storm and slurs everywhere in all chat and been told many times I've gotten reported. Never been banned. Just like ive gone afk and farmed so much that ive been reported as a bot and leecher many times, nothings every happened.

Its completely random.

I mean i'm on vent with guildies/friends so much that if i type something its either to buy something, cuss someone out, or join in random all chat fun. I mean my chat logs should be filled with nothing but that, But whatever.

I have 3 other accounts i could play on till temp ban goes away. Then i got a week ban to spar before i get even close to a perma ban.

If you get perma'd for a swearing, you'd have to be just standin in town all day swearing and harassing people over and over. Which at that point you deserve it.

As for being reported from AB thats just like ironic, considering its full of that shit all the time.

What you need is a like a ban for taunting. Like fighting in hockey. You both sit your 5 minutes, and if you get instigating then you're gone for the game.

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Further reinforcing my point, because does the EULA not say you have to be a certain age and such to play this game?

I'd hope this age requirement is intended to set a level of expected maturity.
The EULA also states that you may not use foul language. Your point is moot.

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I read perfectly fine. I was responding to "Or is a banning for use of "inappropriate language" absolutely ridiculous?"

Perhaps it is you that needs to read a little bit.
Which goes back to my point once again, I said, that I was okay with being banned because of the way that the rules currently are, but wish they'd be reviewed and revised in the future. So, yeah..... You still need to take up that whole reading thing.

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The EULA also states that you may not use foul language. Your point is moot.
What other language do you require me to repeat the same thing in so that you can finally get it?

I'm more than willing to assist, I'm rather good with german french and spanish, if that helps.

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The EULA also states that you may not use foul language. Your point is moot.
Foul language is part of human nature. Like eating, sleeping, making love (please notice my perfect language!)... Is the EULA requiring all their customers to start attending yoga classes so they never get angry or something?

Grow up.you

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Which goes back to my point once again, I said, that I was okay with being banned because of the way that the rules currently are, but wish they'd be reviewed and revised in the future. So, yeah..... You still need to take up that whole reading thing.
No. I read perfectly fine. You accept the ban due to the current rules. Great, I don't care. I don't agree that the rules need to be changed. They are perfectly fine as is.

I would like MORE people banned for being unable to have even a modicum of self control.

So my point was: I don't agree with you. Ban appropriate.

That being said since I know you will jump to this conclusion: I do not report people for language. Still doesn't change the facts that the rules are there, the rules are used, and the rules are enforced.

Or maybe you will understand this response instead: /notsigned.


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What other language do you require me to repeat the same thing in so that you can finally get it?
You could try Spanish or Hawaiian if you like. My response will be the same.

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I would like MORE people banned for being unable to have even a modicum of self control.
You're really a poor soul aren't you? Really gald you're not my dad or something. I think I would have grown up really messed up given all the "repression" and "self control" I would have been subjected to. If you can understand anything of the point I'm making

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No. I read perfectly fine. You accept the ban due to the current rules. Great, I don't care. I don't agree that the rules need to be changed. They are perfectly fine as is.

I would like MORE people banned for being unable to have even a modicum of self control.

So my point was: I don't agree with you. Ban appropriate.

That being said since I know you will jump to this conclusion: I do not report people for language. Still doesn't change the facts that the rules are there, the rules are used, and the rules are enforced.

Or maybe you will understand this response instead: /notsigned.




You could try Spanish or Hawaiian if you like. My response will be the same.
Self control? It's the internet, a game on the internet!

And though you're suddenly showing signs of paying attention I find it hard to believe that you were previously doing so even though you say you've "read perfectly fine".

Let us all bow our heads in prayer, and let us gain the power and highhorseness to develop that which will allow us to have "even a modicum of self control" in a game that glorifies binge drinking, gluttony, partying, and genocide of different species.

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Foul language is part of human nature. Like eating, sleeping, making love (please notice my perfect language!)... Is the EULA requiring all their customers to start attending yoga classes so they never get angry or something?

Grow up.you
This.

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Everyone in AB should be banned for doing AB or for calling it pvp.
Hey there you buddy guy effin buddy guy you. I would never commit the blasphemy that is referring to AB as pvp in any way.

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You're really a poor soul aren't you? Really gald you're not my dad or something. I think I would have grown up really messed up given all the "repression" and "self control" I would have been subjected to. If you can understand anything of the point I'm making
You are taking your own biases and applying them to me. You believe that since I agree with the rules as written that I must be some sort of prude who would beat his kids if they said "RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO".

You can defend a position even if you don't practice that position yourself.

As I said, I don't personally care if you use foul language. I won't even report you for doing so. I even use it myself.

Crazy huh?

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I would like MORE people banned for being unable to have even a modicum of self control.

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You are taking your own biases and applying them to me. You believe that since I agree with the rules as written that I must be some sort of prude who would beat his kids if they said "RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO".

You can defend a position even if you don't practice that position yourself.

As I said, I don't personally care if you use foul language. I won't even report you for doing so. I even use it myself.

Crazy huh?
Self destruction.

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@ OP , what you said is kind of over the top, I probably would have reported you, or just LOL'd you to a rage.

To me the Inappropriate Language /report option is directed towards obnoxious players who keep running their mouth and racial comments, not so much the foul language. But threatening another player, like the OP did, is not just foul language. Based on what the OP wrote, I agree with the ban.

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@ OP , what you said is kind of over the top, I probably would have reported you, or just LOL'd you to a rage.

To me the Inappropriate Language /report option is directed towards obnoxious players who keep running their mouth and racial comments, not so much the foul language. But threatening another player, like the OP did, is not just foul language.
Oh, I in no way am saying that it wasn't as remarkably over the top as a statement can be. And I am not particularly defending my action, but rather the right for the average harmless individual to say foxtrot uniform charlie kilo when they feel fit.

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Self destruction.
Just because I would like to see more people banned, doesn't mean I have to go around doing it.

You are looking for things that don't exist.

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I agree with everything Kumu Honua has said. If you can NOT control yourself on a mature level then you deserve your suspension. There is no reason why anyone should be saying "ni--er", "mother f-cker", "f-cking b-tch" ect, ect. No reason at all.


I won't deny that I report at least 1-3 people a day for "inappropriate language", "racial slur", "account sharing", ect ect (I have only failed maybe 4 or 5 of my 100+ reports on getting suspended/perma'd).

Having said that, I do my part in keeping trolls at bay to keep GW a somewhat (Notice!! Keyword being somewhat!!) cleaner place to play.


Anyways. To everyone else hating on Kumu Honua for wanting/agreeing that the rules are fine/he approves of them and that he disagrees with what you are saying by a nicely worded counter-argument statement: grow a maturity level :]




edit: this is the perfect example of what I mean by the "grow a maturity level" line (said in post #28 of this page).
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You're really a poor soul aren't you? Really gald you're not my dad or something. I think I would have grown up really messed up given all the "repression" and "self control" I would have been subjected to. If you can understand anything of the point I'm making


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Just because I would like to see more people banned, doesn't mean I have to go around doing it.

You are looking for things that don't exist.
Your logic, she be flawed, but I can respect that.

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i think they should first worry about how to stop those idiotic gold bot spammers or those wts/wtb aion wing codes gw/runescape bots. then worry about people saying bad words in local.