Whats your thoughts on This...

jay02483

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so im sittin here thinking...lets be real guildwars 2 will probably be released early 2011...if eariler cool...but will the game population slowly dwindling do you think that there will be sizable community left in the game in the next year or so, with nomore new content or expansions coming out.??

The Scorpion Knight

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Some people quit playing and are just waiting for GW2. The community is going keep getting less, don't know how small it's going to be when GW2 is out. Then again it also depends on when the release it, if it's during Christmas then we might some more players.

Divine Ashes

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I think the gamer base will slowly dwindle, but when the time comes when gw2 is going to be released, I think a spike will be seen of people trying to get last minute HoM monuments, etc.

Tastyy

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Most of us with more than 2000 hours into the game are just waiting for GW2.

Just. Waiting. For. GW2

KZaske

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I really think they need to release new content to keep enough of the current population active and to keep the hype for Guild Wars 2 high enough to ensure a good launch. With no new content and a dwindling active population more and more people are leaving the game. I figure about one tenth to one quarter of them will also drop out of the first wave of sales for Guild Wars 2.
I figure the best time to release Guild Wars 2 would be 3 quarter 2010. If they wait until 2011 they are going to miss the train unless NCSoft does something they are not normally very good at; marketing. The only time I have see really good marketing from NCSoft was for Aion. But that did not help in China.

Tastyy

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The only time I have see really good marketing from NCSoft was for Aion. But that did not help in China.
You can't do anything in China effectively .

Though I agree they should release some content - the chance is slim. They would've announced if they had something in the work.

Eragon Zarroc

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I think gw population will slowly dwindle the further along we go, but that is natural for any game pretty much. And i wouldn't say no more new content. The Live team are suppose to be working on pretty sizable projects ;-). But just because sizeable numbers of people leave GW doesn't mean they won't return once GW2 comes out.

Shadowspawn X

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The GW community will not dwindle it will just become less active. There are many people who play very little due to no new content and nothing to do in the game. These players are not gone but only waiting for new content to enjoy.

Shayne Hawke

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I don't know about the size of the community, but the quality will probably diminish.

Hylas

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
I don't know about the size of the community, but the quality will probably diminish.
I think so, too. :P All the people with experience that've done everything might leave for a while but the newbies will keep flocking in as much as ever.

Coney

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Hmm the latest handling of the XTH and the failed HallowQuest will prolly not be beneficial...

Martin Alvito

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ANet's marketing strategy here is made of fail. The more time that elapses between the two games, the greater the risk that players will find another time-consuming game and never return.

I was pretty heavily involved in the Civ 4 community at that game's release. As I started playing more GW PvP in late 2005, it became impossible to play both games and live in RL. I never bought any of the Civ 4 expansions through no fault of Firaxis (Civ 4 is a truly great game). GW won out in part simply because I'd had an extra six months to get integrated into the community, and didn't want to leave that behind.

The longer the wait between games, the more likely it becomes that Blizzard (Diablo 3) or Bioware (SW:tOR) will hit market first, snatch players up and not let them go. I don't know what went wrong in development initially, but that holdup is likely to cost ANet a lot of business.

iTwilight

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Still .. Arena nets idea of "new content" is giving us that crappy event every single week which is usually useless to our general gameplay.
"Double experience from skill caps and double green drops"
YES! Now I can get one of those greens that are worth 30g!
OH NOES! I already capped all the skills >.>

I can say I will be around for GW2 though, I'll probably play this game up and till then too, maybe a goal for a full Torment Weapon HoM is right in mind?

DreamWind

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Join Date: Oct 2006

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The current community is MUCH less important to Anet than gathering NEW players. It is simply marketing strategy. The success of Guild Wars 2 is going to depend on how many new players they bring in moreso than how many Guild Wars 1 players stay with the franchise.

chocodiledundee

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I think you get new players just from the hype of a new MMO. and it will probably settle down to a smaller number over time as all games do.

gremlin

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They will almost certainly lose a lot of players between now and 2011 the problem for the company is what those players are doing while we await gw2.

Some will just wait but if too many move to other games they may not return.
There will always be new players of course.

It probably comes down to those already disaffected who will buy Diablo 3 and the hard core gw players who will probably move to gw2.

Its all in the timing of the release dates.

Test Me

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The current community is MUCH less important to Anet than gathering NEW players. It is simply marketing strategy. The success of Guild Wars 2 is going to depend on how many new players they bring in moreso than how many Guild Wars 1 players stay with the franchise.
That is really off. This is not a subscription based game. Yes for subscription based services in general what matters is getting new people to subscribe since you already get money from those that are subscribed.

For GW2 is "how many boxes they will sell". Hence the current player base is extremely important because of two reasons:
1) they hope to get money out of their pocket again, with the new GW2 box
2) they hope the current player base would advertise their game to friends so that they get new players in as well.

For GW2 it's all about their current/previous players. If they don't buy it and advertise it, there are slim chances that random people that never heard of GW would care about a sequel called GW2.

Eddie Frenzy Spam

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Originally Posted by Tastyy View Post
Most of us with more than 2000 hours into the game are just waiting for GW2.

Just. Waiting. For. GW2
Stating things without any facts is cool.

Chasing Squirrels

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Originally Posted by Divine Ashes View Post
I think the gamer base will slowly dwindle, but when the time comes when gw2 is going to be released, I think a spike will be seen of people trying to get last minute HoM monuments, etc.
ya i agree with this

HawkofStorms

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I've been waiting for StarCraft 2 for 13 years... deal with it.

BenjZee

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Dedication, well i hope that game comes to you one day Hawk. Im still surprised why some of you are surprised about how long its taken, i for one say this is pretty short for developing a game

dr love

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I've been waiting for StarCraft 2 for 13 years... deal with it.
exactly. same case as diablo 2 and diablo 3. you think people aren't going to be interested in guild wars 2 because not as many people play guild wars anymore?

Esprit

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Most players have worn the game out, there is nothing exciting left to do, there are only so many ways you can spin the same content, before you start losing your player base to new games.

There will be plenty of players for Guild Wars 2, and how many people keep playing Guild Wars 1 has no bearing what-so-ever on GW2 sales.

ddraeg cymru

ddraeg cymru

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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
There will be plenty of players for Guild Wars 2, and how many people keep playing Guild Wars 1 has no bearing what-so-ever on GW2 sales.
Agreed, just because people aren't playing GW1 doesn't mean they have lost interest in GW2 aswell.

DreamWind

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Originally Posted by Test Me View Post
That is really off. This is not a subscription based game. Yes for subscription based services in general what matters is getting new people to subscribe since you already get money from those that are subscribed.

For GW2 is "how many boxes they will sell". Hence the current player base is extremely important because of two reasons:
1) they hope to get money out of their pocket again, with the new GW2 box
2) they hope the current player base would advertise their game to friends so that they get new players in as well.

For GW2 it's all about their current/previous players. If they don't buy it and advertise it, there are slim chances that random people that never heard of GW would care about a sequel called GW2.
True everybody's money is worth the same amount, but from a pure marketing standpoint new players are more important than old players in just about any game.

Reason being Anet is guaranteed a certain amount of old players buying the game and a certain number of old players not buying the game. If they only have this amount of sales the game will not be considered a success. The game is only a success if they get a significant amount of new players to make up for the old players who will not buy. Not to mention they need to surpass the sales of GW1, and they can only do that with new players.

Hollygen

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The GW population will dwindle over the next year. Any game has a shelf life, and lets face it the game is 4 and a half years old at present, and has had a pretty good run.
It is likely to gain, or re-gain, players nearer to GW2's release, once existing players find out what effect their current characters will have on the new game, old players get reminded by the new game's marketing of that old MMO they used to enjoy, and new punters decide to find out a bit about the new game by looking back at the previous one.

chocodiledundee

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I have found this, this morning IGN this morning.

Aldo wants more

Aldo wants more

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I have found this, this morning IGN this morning.
A lot of 'probably' in that article but here's hoping.

chocodiledundee

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Yes, but it's on reasonably good sources. I have used IGN to track alot of games over the last 3 - 4 years, they are pretty good

IlikeGW

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Originally Posted by chocodiledundee View Post
I have found this, this morning IGN this morning.
Besides confirming there's no 2010 release though, it doesn't mean much. The beta for example they could start any time they want... and it will probably be very close to release from what they've said. So it might not even be next year either.

YunSooJin

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we love sitting aroudn jerking off to hypotheticals! wheeeeeeee

Arghore

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Im hoping for some bonus missions when the books come out, to actually play a couple of exciting chapters of the book (written) in the game ... other then that im basically filling my HoM and working on titles, not sure howlong that will keep me interested though, i was hoping on a long beta way b4 release and the trailer got me all hyped, with the recent news this has been a bit of a bummer tbh... ohwell, i guess i can always do 'the waiting game'...

Storn

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hMMM... I'm just coming back to GW after about a year break. I never did really push my assassin toon very far in any campaign and the challenge of doing so seems to have piqued my interest.

But I concede that i'm probably a minority.

chocodiledundee

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hMMM... I'm just coming back to GW after about a year break. I never did really push my assassin toon very far in any campaign and the challenge of doing so seems to have piqued my interest.

But I concede that i'm probably a minority.
I feel a minority in that respect too. I have spent little time actually playing the game in it's entirety and am enjoying trying to finish some of the campaignes

II Lucky Charm II

II Lucky Charm II

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Originally Posted by jay02483 View Post
so im sittin here thinking...lets be real guildwars 2 will probably be released early 2011...if eariler cool...but will the game population slowly dwindling do you think that there will be sizable community left in the game in the next year or so, with nomore new content or expansions coming out.??
Okay. Get off the computer and go do something useful for the community instead of contemplating about these issues. My thought on this: pointless topic. What will you do if the population decreases? Nothing.

Grunntar

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In my opinion, it's quite apparent they are not going to release any new content for GW1. Ever. It's done. Move along...

I would rather that they announce *that*, so all of these hopelessly hopeful players get over the fact that they have everything that they will ever have.

It's done. Move along...

Either play the game and enjoy it for what it is, or find another game to amuse yourself.

Anyway, the notion of releasing new content to keep current players entertained is ludicrous. It will never be enough to "tide people over" until GW2 comes out, so it would be tantamount to "stringing them along," causing more whiner threads, like this one, asking for even more content to keep them entertained. What volume of content would be enough? That would be a whole game's worth, and that, I believe, is called "Guild Wars 2"...

It's done. Move along...