...What?
I've came up with some sort of teambuild which utilizes Protective Bond to replace Protective Spirit in a 600/Smite composition.
Why would you want to do that...
3 reasons:you can leave out Protective Spirit, allowing 1 extra skill
you no longer have to fear Protective Sprit might get interupted
Protective Bond reduces 95% of all damage rather then just 90%
Ok so show me the builds already...
I like to call this Super 600 Way:
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LOL are you kidding me?
No.
At 13 Protection Prayers, the energy loss caused by Protective Bond is 3e / hit. Having 3 people/heroes cast and maintain Protective bond on one person (in this case the 600 tank) splits the energy loss, meaning each player/hero now loses 1e / hit. Now, have all 3 cast and maintain Essence Bond on the tank and Voila, you have 1 super 600 tank.
When you've done that, you probably want each bonder to cast and maintain Life Bond on the tank, then have each bonder self-cast Balthazar's Spirit (hope that's clear enough).
This stops all energy regenation, but for every hit the tank takes, the bonders will gain 2 energy.
(Life Bond itself is not really used to reduce damage, only to make Balthazar's spirit trigger.)
Hey there's 8 men in your team :[
Yep, since there's no way to combine a 4-men Protective Bond team with smiting skills (except for maybe Retribution only), You'll need a friend with his own heroes.
It shouldn't really matter what role the second human player takes. I'm just telling you it's probably going to be easier if the Ranger/Monk role is played by a human.
How do we use this?
Mo-N Bonders
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Let's Revive Protective Bond!
Aciid Bu5t0r
Best used by heroes. Cast bonds as explained above and flag at a safe distance (but not too far, of course).
Tank
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Play as regular (chaining Spirit Bond and Shield of Absorption). Use IAU in zones with KD. Switch for Mantra of Resolve in zones without KD, or if you need the interupt-prevention more. Wait for Quickening Zephyr and run in with Spellbreaker on. Cast Anchestor Visage once things start to attack (but watch out for physical interupts: Distracting Shot, Savage Slash,... Cast your visage before battle if necessary).
Support Ranger
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Serpents Quickness allows you to cast Quickening Zephyr without delay. It is only needed for the first cast, after the first QZ, it chains itself. Quickening Zephyr is used to keep up IAU, Spellbreaker and Anchestor's Visage without delay.
Famine is used to damage your enemies once Anchestor's Visage has drained their energy: it should trigger each time they hit the tank. Edge of Extinction is optional, change for a good PvE skill if you wish (hint: Ebon Battle Standard of Honor).
Maintain Essence Bond on the tank for energy management.
Use Primal Echoes when and only when there are enemies using signets (e.g. Healing Signet, Signet of Judgement,...). It disables their signets once visage has drained their energy, but the energy cost also applies to your team's energy!
Smiter
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OwQTAHH/4Af5jehMlnsTME Equipment:Smiting Prayers headpiece +3 Smiting Prayers Rune +3 Protection Prayers Rune (if played by a human, on a seperate Protection Prayers headpiece. Switch between headpieces when casting bonds.) Survival insignia's, Runes of Vitae, optionally Rune of Vigor on remaining upgrade slots. Staff or +5e weapon (no zealous or 15/-1 stuff) Specific usage:
Should also be a hero. Bond the tank and flag at distance. Heavy health buff is necessary in area's where Reversal of Damage is used.
Healing support
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Supposed to do exactly what the name suggests. Recovery reduces condition duration by about 40%, Recuperation gives all players in radar +3hp regen. cast healing spells as the situation demands.
Protection Support
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Yippee, even more bonds! Cast and maintain them on the tank. Not sure if you want to bring Holy Veil, Spellbreaker should stop all hexes anyway.
Purifying Veil further reduces condition duration by another 53%. Stacked on top of Recovery, the tank only has to endure about 3% of the regular condition duration!. Use Martyr if the tank becomes dazed.
What places can be farmed this way?
I have no idea, this build is purely theoretical, and I've not tested the damaging capabilities. All I know is that the Protective Bond thing works.
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PS: Discuss.Nihilim Dhiamara
I'm not sure but I think holy wrath and retribution deals less damage like this because of the 5% max health hits.Aciid Bu5t0r
Braxton619
4/10 - Fair build
One thing that is bad in this build is the number of bonders. That means less drops, people in runs, which is bad. I can tell you got the same variant as the 105hp Assassin in Speed Booking of A Time for Heroes. Also it wouldn't be so fun casting all those enchantments on yourself. I would certainly like to have only one hero and cast them in seconds.
-6 = Number of Bonders
More info: Not many people want to take all those bonders in a 600 run. You would certainly not want to if you are running a dungeon.
Final Thoughts: Decent build, the number of bonders kill it. I would rather want to stick with the 600 variant.Aciid Bu5t0r
The point is that, where other 600 builds fail, this might actually work.Killamus
4/10 - Fair buildQuote:Originally Posted by Leet Tankur
One thing that is bad in this build is the number of bonders. That means less drops, people in runs, which is bad. I can tell you got the same variant as the 105hp Assassin in Speed Booking of A Time for Heroes. Also it wouldn't be so fun casting all those enchantments on yourself. I would certainly like to have only one hero and cast them in seconds.
-6 = Number of Bonders
More info: Not many people want to take all those bonders in a 600 run. You would certainly not want to if you are running a dungeon.
Final Thoughts: Decent build, the number of bonders kill it. I would rather want to stick with the 600 variant. Except that the bonders can be humans that are being ran, too. I could seriously see this being able to clear all of DoA in HM in a reasonable amount of time. Maybe excluding veil.Aciid Bu5t0r
Perhaps you could fit Recovery, Purifying Veil, Martyr and other heals in one skillbar and bring another Spirit Supporter with Quicksand to add to Anchestor's Visage. By the way, Anchestor's Visage has a duplicate skill (Sympathetic Visage). But using 20% longer enchantments and Quickening Zephyr, you only need one of them.
bartj??
Quote:Originally Posted by KillamusExcept that the bonders can be humans that are being ran, too. I could seriously see this being able to clear all of DoA in HM in a reasonable amount of time. Maybe excluding veil. So you wanna shout in a outpost: Running dungeon only monks with 13+ Protection prayers may join. Wouldn't that kind of ruin the point of running?Aciid Bu5t0r
The same is happening in some dungeon clears (sinway teams)...
bartj??
Quote:Originally Posted by Aciid Bu5t0rThe same is happening in some dungeon clears (sinway teams)... Yes but he was talking about running not Speed clears. Running dungeons for only monks just sucks.Why would you want to do that...
Skyy High
What was so bad about protective spirit?Quote:Having 3 people/heroes cast and maintain Protective bond on one person (in this case the 600 tank) splits the energy loss, meaning each player/hero now loses 1e / hit. Er, really? That doesn't seem like that's how it's supposed to work. Aciid Bu5t0r
I'm still looking for someone to test this thing, with or without me, and give me some feedback
EDIT: Protective Bond doesn't say it works that way, but it does.
CE Devilman
old build on youtube
works...but no range and heros will die...end of line
(note the Hp)
will work..but the more U kill the more hp U get...
lets see..why do 600 monks not rull all...
monster skills on boss
bad bats
paragons skills
degre
strip enc
to low dmg...
hex
trust me..
the 5% spots this build will rull in is...bad
use 3 heros to get a extra slot..is bad
1/20 will kill to slow and spellbreker will run out
Lag can kill this build..shit happens..
this skill got a nerf...(UW)..long time ago
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Game.../20050825#Monk
U not the first ..or last to try..
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10256215Dre
Congratz, you just dedicated a whole team to make a single build work (while 3 people max should suffice)
Zodiac Meteor
...What?Quote:Originally Posted by Aciid Bu5t0r
I've came up with some sort of teambuild which utilizes Protective Bond to replace Protective Spirit in a 600/Smite composition.
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3 reasons:you can leave out Protective Spirit, allowing 1 extra skill 1 extra skill but take 3 extra heroes, that's not a fair trade at all.
Quote: you no longer have to fear Protective Spirit might get interrupted What? Even if it gets d-shoted, Spirit Bond can still keep you alive until the mob is dead. That can vary on the mob, but your not going to spam protective spirit as your life-saver.
Quote: Protective Bond reduces 95% of all damage rather then just 90% So, taking 10% damage is worse then taking 3 hero leechers and take 5% less damage instead. How is that trade off better?!
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