The idea of jumping, swimming, flying, etc, really holds little interest to me and just gives me more buttons i need to mash. YAWN. But a few of us were talking about this today and were wondering...
How many of you would still keep playing GW1 if all that was ever introduced to the game, for ever more, were just new areas to explore, continents, dungeons, etc, and new weapon skins, armour skins, and maybe new crafting materials for those skins? No new classes, no new skills. Would that have kept you playing this game without the need for a GW2?
Would you still play GW1 if.....
DragonRogue
Zahr Dalsk
It wouldn't because the game's engine doesn't really support a z-axis.
Operative 14
I would.
Don't get me wrong, I am sincerely looking forward to GW2. However I would have a lot of fun with another EotN that gave me another campaign without the extras (like new professions or skills) that would make for more work in the future. GW1 doesn't really show it's age that much, and I would love to take yet another romp with my own characters in the world of present day Tyria.
Don't get me wrong, I am sincerely looking forward to GW2. However I would have a lot of fun with another EotN that gave me another campaign without the extras (like new professions or skills) that would make for more work in the future. GW1 doesn't really show it's age that much, and I would love to take yet another romp with my own characters in the world of present day Tyria.
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Nope.........
KZaske
It makes no difference to me. I enjoy the game the way it is. Personally I don't really want jumping, just more buttons to worry about.
Bob Slydell
GW1 holds a sentimental value from all those years of playing and enjoyign it, I'll keep playing even after GW2 comes out. Just because you can jump, possibly even swim and maybe climb and god knows what else in GW2, holds no valid reason to just stop playing GW1.
cosyfiep
I would and will.
I dont need a z-axis, game works just fine without it.
I dont need a z-axis, game works just fine without it.
upier
(I don't see why this thread starts with jumping when the discussion is about skills and classes!?)
The problem is that some of the stuff added is really fun, some is really broken and some is really fun AND broken at the same time.
So the question is if the loss of the new fun things could be negated by the fun of old things and the lack of the trash that the new additions spawned? For instance, the game would be much slower since parties could never output the damage we can now, meaning shutdown could actually still play a role thus making my favourite class pre-Factions, mesmer, still do his job! HM would also probably be never incorporated in this way nor would the bigger, faster, stronger foes that keep popping up everywhere. My guess is that HM would be more like NM Gwen with emphasis on better builds than the crap we see now.
At the same time - the speed of kills one can achieve with a Splintered Assassin is obscenely fun! Spirit Spamming is sweet! The new skills for the core classes - stuff like Mind Blast or the sweetest mesmer elite - Assassin's Promise - did make for some sweet play!
So it is a bit tricky.
But I am guessing the new additions outweigh the crap that was also added, so I am going with "I probably wouldn't be playing".
The problem is that some of the stuff added is really fun, some is really broken and some is really fun AND broken at the same time.
So the question is if the loss of the new fun things could be negated by the fun of old things and the lack of the trash that the new additions spawned? For instance, the game would be much slower since parties could never output the damage we can now, meaning shutdown could actually still play a role thus making my favourite class pre-Factions, mesmer, still do his job! HM would also probably be never incorporated in this way nor would the bigger, faster, stronger foes that keep popping up everywhere. My guess is that HM would be more like NM Gwen with emphasis on better builds than the crap we see now.
At the same time - the speed of kills one can achieve with a Splintered Assassin is obscenely fun! Spirit Spamming is sweet! The new skills for the core classes - stuff like Mind Blast or the sweetest mesmer elite - Assassin's Promise - did make for some sweet play!
So it is a bit tricky.
But I am guessing the new additions outweigh the crap that was also added, so I am going with "I probably wouldn't be playing".
gremlin
They could add anything they liked to give me more game play because for me gw1 is drawing to a close.
I have had 4 very good years and am still playing, firstly because I still enjoy it and secondly because at the moment I see nothing else to replace it.
So yes by all means add anything you like I will still play until gw2 arrives then I am gone probably for good, unless even more radical changes draw me back.
There simply won't be enough time in a day to play both games and if gw2 proves awful I will be searching for a new game anyway.
From the point of view of a new player I wouldn't want the game ruined but for me anything that proves interesting even in the short term is good.
I have had 4 very good years and am still playing, firstly because I still enjoy it and secondly because at the moment I see nothing else to replace it.
So yes by all means add anything you like I will still play until gw2 arrives then I am gone probably for good, unless even more radical changes draw me back.
There simply won't be enough time in a day to play both games and if gw2 proves awful I will be searching for a new game anyway.
From the point of view of a new player I wouldn't want the game ruined but for me anything that proves interesting even in the short term is good.
Malice Black
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Shadowspawn X
There are a million games with a z-axis, all of them are worst than GW1.
Darcy
I'm still playing after almost 4 years. This game has been and remains one of the best games I have ever played. Yes, I would love new content. But I don't require it. The small things that the Live Team are adding keep my sense of anticipation alive.
Shayne Hawke
We don't need new armors or crafting materials, we certainly don't need more skills or professions, and we don't need new areas. ANet can make better use of some areas by adjusting or changing mobs.
I don't see "skill balances" in there though, and I would definitely be upset if ANet stopped giving us timely skill balances.
oh, wait.
I don't see "skill balances" in there though, and I would definitely be upset if ANet stopped giving us timely skill balances.
oh, wait.
Kenzo Skunk
I`d stick to GW1 if there were new areas, bosses, dungeons, etc. I mean, we all like NEW stuff, so whether it is named gw1 or gw2 i don`t care as long as there are new things to do, new bosses and areas to beat, etc..
Shadowhaze
I don't care about jumping, swimming, etc. Would be handy in vqing when you have to cross half the map just to get up to an area where you can see some baddies but can't reach them though. :P
Overall, I like the game as it is and still play it after years.
Overall, I like the game as it is and still play it after years.
qvtkc
In 2013, OP will post a thread on GW2Guru asking: "Would you have kept playing GW1 if they just added more areas to it, and skipped GW2 with its jumping and swimming etc?"
And people will say that GW1 was horrible for not having a z-axis.
As for myself, yes I'd go on playing if they just added new areas. And fixed the skills. Who needs jumping anyway.
And people will say that GW1 was horrible for not having a z-axis.
As for myself, yes I'd go on playing if they just added new areas. And fixed the skills. Who needs jumping anyway.
Eragon Zarroc
i woud still want GW2. a fresh start. this game is getting old. u can only add so much stuff until it is too much >_<
Abedeus
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There are a million games with a z-axis, all of them are worst than GW1.
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HawkofStorms
"Still keep playing" assumes we have quit.
The Scorpion Knight
Yeah I'd keep playing.
Nereyda Shoaal
Yes, not for long though
The current system is good but sooner or later everyone starts to see the downsides
The current system is good but sooner or later everyone starts to see the downsides
Fay Vert
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
It wouldn't because the game's engine doesn't really support a z-axis.
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HawkofStorms
Traps hitting people from underneath bridges. Warriors attacking people from 30 feet underneath them by standing under them on a bridge.
Nope... that's not true 3d at all Fay Vert. All z-axis in this game is done optically only. Thus it is a true 2.5d game. When the game actually checks to see where things are located, it only does so on the x and y axis.
Nope... that's not true 3d at all Fay Vert. All z-axis in this game is done optically only. Thus it is a true 2.5d game. When the game actually checks to see where things are located, it only does so on the x and y axis.
PuppyEater
Arrows do deal more damage when you are elevated vs your target
gremlin
I really doubt you could add z axis movement without redrawing the maps and a complete rewrite of the AI.
Mostly computer AI detects a target and moves in a straight line until they are in range.
In the current game its very easy to take out targets in pve as they get trapped around corners and continue to fire to no effect.
Only the melee attacks are not fooled by this, close on the character and attack successfully.
Adding a z axis wouldn't prevent this so it would be a huge amount of work to set out which parts of the maps you can climb up, character animation for same.
New character animation and skills to allow swimming and water combat if you wanted that adding.
In fact its a complete waste of time untill computer AI becomes actually intelligent enough to know when its attacks are failing and use the terrain effectively.
Mostly computer AI detects a target and moves in a straight line until they are in range.
In the current game its very easy to take out targets in pve as they get trapped around corners and continue to fire to no effect.
Only the melee attacks are not fooled by this, close on the character and attack successfully.
Adding a z axis wouldn't prevent this so it would be a huge amount of work to set out which parts of the maps you can climb up, character animation for same.
New character animation and skills to allow swimming and water combat if you wanted that adding.
In fact its a complete waste of time untill computer AI becomes actually intelligent enough to know when its attacks are failing and use the terrain effectively.
Zebideedee
The GW2 teaser goes underwater near the end so I dunno if that means you'll be able to swim or not? As for flying, hopefuly not, unless a possible means of transportation that allows you to get from A to B without having to put up with all the heat seeking red dots 
Targren
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How many of you would still keep playing GW1 if all that was ever introduced to the game, for ever more, were just new areas to explore, continents, dungeons, etc, and new weapon skins, armour skins, and maybe new crafting materials for those skins? No new classes, no new skills. Would that have kept you playing this game without the need for a GW2?
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MithranArkanere
I always want new stuff. And I have already paid the game. And I won't mind paying more for more content. As long as it's new and content.
I would even pay up to 40€ just for a Xunlai Marketplace, and I bet many other people would too.
I would even pay up to 40€ just for a Xunlai Marketplace, and I bet many other people would too.
Abedeus
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
I always want new stuff. And I have already paid the game. And I won't mind paying more for more content. As long as it's new and content.
I would even pay up to 40€ just for a Xunlai Marketplace, and I bet many other people would too. |
Cuilan
I never liked swimming in Sonic because I would always miss the moving air bubbles. Swimming and jumping doesn't interest me so hopefully most of it is optional and not too frequently required.
Female characters jumping with skirts...uh oh.
Female characters jumping with skirts...uh oh.
Master Sword Keeper
yea ima keep playin it, I wouldnt wanna pay the monthly fee for gws2.
regardless of what they say...
regardless of what they say...
Age
Yes. I would as to all the time I put into my account as long as they lighten up on us older folks.I would even play it if they put out a full version of the game for us to install and supply a server code.This game would be better if handled by the community.
I do like the x axis but not on GW on GW2 yes.
I do like the x axis but not on GW on GW2 yes.