Skill balance this month?

Winterclaw

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Join Date: May 2005

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W/

I know anet doesn't always do content updates and skill updates at the same time, but it would be nice to know if we are getting one. Anet told us they'd be releasing them every other month to give us better balances (I'll believe that part when I see it) so I wanted to know if we can expect one or not.

Since next week is thanksgiving, I'm thinking not. :\

Zahr Dalsk

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Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

I doubt it.

Also, this is November, not October.

Winterclaw

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Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

The last one was in September so it should have been in November.




PS. The US celebrates thanksgiving in November.

Symeon

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Join Date: Jul 2005

At this point, what I think is needed most is a Developer or Journal Update. The last month has seen a string of updates: Halloween, removal of HB + TA and addition of CA, removal of heroes from PvP and addition of henchmen, and UW changes. Some solid reasoning behind the latter, and an indication of whether the changes are going to be taken further, would be very helpful. Apart from that, what else is coming up?

The last skill balance was 17th September. So actually, it's only a little over two months ago. ANet could still fulfill their promise of bi-monthly skill updates with one next week, but with the MAT 2 days later, PvP changes would have to be minimal. Probably best to wait until the week after, as the cycle can then be renewed with updates at the start of the month rather than near the end.

fowlero

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Apart from that, what else is coming up?
* GvG Tiebreaker
* New Schedule for Automated Tournaments
* Bug Fixes for Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry
* New Hall of Heroes map


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The last skill balance was 17th September. So actually, it's only a little over two months ago. ANet could still fulfill their promise of bi-monthly skill updates with one next week, but with the MAT 2 days later, PvP changes would have to be minimal. Probably best to wait until the week after, as the cycle can then be renewed with updates at the start of the month rather than near the end.
They'd be very dumb to update this week. Reason i'm pissed personally is they said they'd be more open and that because they couldnt manage to do a monthly update, they'll not do bimonthly either. Also it was said that they'd provide dev updates a month before said balance to get input (and then ignore) but this hasn't appeared either. Since september they've said jack to do with balances as far as i know.

Zahr Dalsk

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* GvG Tiebreaker
* New Schedule for Automated Tournaments
* Bug Fixes for Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry
* New Hall of Heroes map
Disappointing.

fowlero

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England, UK

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Disappointing.
What's your point?

Xenex Xclame

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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I bet the next skill update will be them nerfing 5 skills and calling it a balance update.

I would have rather you kept lieying to us Anet,you asked us for "in return for this openness, we expect you, our community, to be understanding" What openness?

OP you should be happy if we get a update before the start of the new year,I know im not expecting anything that we can call a balance update for a while.

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Does that mean we need to wait another 2 months for a skill update?
Or is it 4 considering that in 2 months they'll be busy with Wintersday?
Or is it 6 considering that in 4 months they'll be busy with Cathan New Year?

Eragon Zarroc

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Meh, we just switched to the new bi-monthly schedule and there has been a shit-ton of stuff going on between september and now. Quit QQ'ing and be paitent. >_<

Zahr Dalsk

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Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

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What's your point?
That I'd rather see a bunch of skills (any skills, really) reworked and given new functionalities so that there's new stuff to play with.

Instead of a bit of PvP tweaks no one cares about.

fowlero

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That I'd rather see a bunch of skills (any skills, really) reworked and given new functionalities so that there's new stuff to play with.

Instead of a bit of PvP tweaks no one cares about.
Yeah i'd rather have skill updates atm, and although i'd rather just see nerfs atm because anet can't do buffs right without breaking the game.

The list was purely to that guy who asked what else was supposed to be coming, although i disagree that noone would care about GvG tiebreaker change and HoH...

bursta91

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Join Date: Nov 2008

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Disappointing.
go back to UW. High end pvp hasent seen loving in a while. You just got durrr whatever go farm some minis for me to buy.

shoyon456

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D/

Its not so much the lack of skill balance as indicated, its the fact they're aren't communicating or saying anything. WTB Proper CR, 100k +50e!

Winterclaw

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Meh, we just switched to the new bi-monthly schedule and there has been a shit-ton of stuff going on between september and now. Quit QQ'ing and be paitent. >_<
Yet they should have realized that before making it public or at least told us when it was going to start. At this point their lack of communication (and I'm not blaming Regina for this because at this point it is the higher-up's fault) has left us completely in the dark once again. If they are going to make a public commitment, they need to back it up. If they need to add another designer or two, then that's what they aught to do. Lying to the fans to placate us and then being caught in the lie does not ingratiate themselves to us any more.

I am trying to give Anet a fair chance but they aren't making it easy on the community.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Unfortunately the company probably works the same way as most other companies.

You have management deciding what they want doing and when they want it done by.

Then marketing announces when this will all happen.

Finally you have someone doing the actual work, and they are the ones that know what's involved and how long it might realistically take to finish.

There will also probably be several changes to the list of what's wanted while the work is in progress.

Result nothing ever gets done perfectly and on time except by amazing good luck.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

regina just posted in all of the QQ threads that there probably won't be an update this month. I'm going to put my money on a wintersday skill balance.

Karate Jesus

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In case you didn't see Regina's response, here it is.

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Originally Posted by Regina
The design work on this continues to progress. There are a couple other projects that Live Team are working on that are planned for a future update (which I am not permitted to talk about yet), and juggling those different projects impacts time spent on a skill balance. I want to reassure you that progress is being made on this, however (for what it's worth).
Basically, the generic "we're working on it" response. I, personally, doubt we'll see anything until January.

Meridon

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I want to reassure you that progress is being made on this, however (for what it's worth).
I'm curious, did Regina just admit here that she values the progress on the skill updates as practically worthless?

Bob Slydell

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I'm curious, did Regina just admit here that she values the progress on the skill updates as practically worthless?
No...she means for what it's worth to the guru members, who constantly QQ about said subject.

Karate Jesus

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No...she means for what it's worth to the guru members, who constantly QQ about said subject.
Although...if you take past precedent into consideration...it doesn't seem like they really care.

It's like the XTH. You can say you care about it and are working on it, but if it's been 7 months and nothing happens......people are going to start calling BS.

Assyrian

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I've already been calling BS.

Bob Slydell

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Although...if you take past precedent into consideration...it doesn't seem like they really care.

It's like the XTH. You can say you care about it and are working on it, but if it's been 7 months and nothing happens......people are going to start calling BS.
I know, but... they have been building a brand new MMO from scratch. I wouldn't be surprised if that after GW2 was out we might see some love for both games equally there after, except maybe when they are working on an expansion to gw2 or content to gw1. I know it sounds a bit fantasy like but I truly believe the lack of support for us in gw1 is because of the hard work they are doing to make gw2. Yet everyone here who dosen't work for anet bitches about gw1's problems when they themselves are ignorant in the fact they have no idea how a game company works.

Karate Jesus

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I know, but... they have been building a brand new MMO from scratch. I wouldn't be surprised if that after GW2 was out we might see some love for both games equally there after, except maybe when they are working on an expansion to gw2 or content to gw1. I know it sounds a bit fantasy like but I truly believe the lack of support for us in gw1 is because of the hard work they are doing to make gw2. Yet everyone here who dosen't work for anet bitches about gw1's problems when they themselves are ignorant in the fact they have no idea how a game company works.
I don't know how many times Linsey, Regina, and by extension - I - am going to have to say this:

The Guild Wars Live Team and the devs for GW1 DO NOT work on GW2. And the devs from GW2 DO NOT work on GW1. Everything is separate now and will continue to be that way (including skill balance, which they used to share "some" resources on). The new guy and some person I've never heard of are doing the skill balance.

So...basically, the way it is now is how it always will be, at least if the team stays the same.

Lishy

Lishy

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Join Date: Jan 2008

They're actually working on an update, but it's moreso for the test krewe.
I was talking with Martin and it's launching soon.... Very soon! :3
Which is the reason for delay of update. The Test Krewe is coming, yeah!

After that, we're planning to hijack the punchbag positions and not being able to release confidential info on upcoming updates :P

II Lucky Charm II

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I thought the update is suppose to be bi-yearly

Lishy

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Definitely bi-yearly, rofl.

Konker2020

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I don't really understand why people actually expected to come through on their end... Yes, they have openly said they would do bi-monthly skill updates, but they have also openly said many other things that have not been done (at least on time). Honestly, I've lost all faith in the GW live team, I see an update and expect the most minor of bug fixes and don't bother to expect them to be on time due to past experience. You'd think people would learn from mistakes but... anyway, point being don't expect anything and you won't be disappointed because there will be nothing to disappoint you. The day they actually follow through will be the day that I believe them.

Short

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Originally Posted by II Lucky Charm II View Post
I thought the update is suppose to be bi-yearly
Lololusofunny.

I'm guessing December tbh. 2nd week.