Storage Code Unlock

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

With a lot of hacking going on, I'm surprised this hasn't been done.

Following the old runescape formula and their solution to guard storage. Players 'can' add a simple storage code of 4 digits to open their storage.
  • It's optional to add. Just talk to the Xunlai Agent and request it.
  • Storage will have 4 digits, simply click the numbers to unlock it.
  • Whenever you log off, storage will be locked. So when you switch characters you can still access it without adding the code again.
  • 5 tries of fail and storage won't be accessible for X amount of time, 15 or 30 minutes.
  • If you forget, talk to the Xunlai Agent and it will get rid of your password, but you cannot access it for 5 days or if you managed to remember the code you can input it again to open it for a small 100g fee. The reason for the fee is a hacker cannot keep guessing without spending time to farm gold.

Because you click the numbers a keylogger won't pick it up. I'm not 100% sure that follows for spyware.

Pro:
Your valuables are safe.

Con:
Beggars, forgetting the code. Simply don't give to the lazy.
Anet will have to add this, yet we are still missing the skill update.
Not sure how this works for every hacker program.
Your armor/weapons and what is left in the inventory are still targets.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

What about the click method for GW logon while were at it? Like an on screen keyboard.

Or just plain using smart passwords for GW, protecting both NC and GW accounts as well as not downloading pronz.

Killamus

Guest

Join Date: Oct 2008

Not hax proof, but it would be nice.

/signed

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Better idea: don't give your email away, and get a good antivirus (not shit like, say, norton or avg).

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

Better idea is to prevent hacking from occurring. That is already done by the players, not Anet. If you fail at that, it is yourself to blame. I have little sympathy for people who get hacked. I know several in my alliance have been, but outside of VERY rare situations, it can always be prevented.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

I liked the idea at first, but then I realized something: if they can't crack the password on your Xunlai account, they can at least change your account password itself, wait five days, and then viola! They have your stuff, and your account.

I suppose if you then realized something was wrong, you could contact support and hope for a fast enough response, but that's not something I would rely on in a crunch.

damkel

damkel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Sounds nice. Although NCsoft should sort out their online store before doing stuff like this. How many people in Germany got a perma-ban for buying an extra storage panel? Sucks hard.

Barrage

Barrage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

A/

If you really want to be hack proof just keep your details safe, and download NoD32 with a cracked key

Rekliss

Rekliss

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2009

[SMF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrage View Post
If you really want to be hack proof just keep your details safe, and download NoD32 with a cracked key
Yes; Let's promote software piracy. who let this guy in here?

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

/notsigned

Though it's a good suggestion it still doesn't solve the problem of a hacker deleting all of your chars and getting your account banned for botting/gold selling.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Don't use a shared computer to play GW, that's what best works for all.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

They already have this in Perfect World Inter. and it would be nice to see in this game.

Barrage

Barrage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rekliss View Post
Yes; Let's promote software piracy. who let this guy in here?
I bet you're one of the people that pay 700+ Dollars for photoshop.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rekliss View Post
Yes; Let's promote software piracy. who let this guy in here?
My BitTorrent downloads folder is currently 159gb, most of the software on my computer is pirated, and BitTorrent accounts for some 250gb of my monthly bandwidth.

How does this make you feel?

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor View Post
I'm not 100% sure that follows for spyware.
If the keypad has a fixed position or the virtual keys fixed positions to each other, it could be grabbed with a mouse capture. That can be fixed by making the virtual keys randomly positioned (ex: 1,4,0,7,5,2,3,9,8,6).

Spyware that caps and saves screenshots could get it, but (a) it causes such a performance problem that most people notice it, and (b) a human being is usually needed to process the screenshots.

Memory injection would allow a program to steal the info directly from the game client. I've heard that GW is quite vulnerable to such an attack, but that's not my area of expertise.

Hyperventilate

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

We just need to fuse fingerprint scanners into our monitors. Lock Xunlai to a fingerprint scan.



.. That'd be awesome. I'd feel like a FBI agent every time I went to get my mini pets.

Lawliet Kira

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyperventilate View Post
We just need to fuse fingerprint scanners into our monitors. Lock Xunlai to a fingerprint scan.



.. That'd be awesome. I'd feel like a FBI agent every time I went to get my mini pets.
Best idea yet

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

/signed anything that can help in preventing hackers.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

/signed - might be useful, optional so it hurts no-one.

Although personally - I don't care about storage security. My storage is full of stuff I use all the time... but I have nothing that's valuable, and I could easily replace everything with a little effort.

If ANet were going to do anything with "security" I'd rather see them tighten up the NCsoft master account weaknesses... or add the option to permanently lock characters against deletion, and make it free when you buy a new character slot, so you never get into the "onoes, I need to reroll a character but now I can't delete any of them".

I hate to be pessimistic, but at this stage of the GW1's life... I don't seriously expect anything new to be done with security.

Just.nl

Just.nl

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

The Netherlands, Noord-Brabant

Mu-Tants [MU]

Me/

/Signed.

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Other Idea; On World of Warcraft they have an Anti-Hack system now. You can buy a little code thingy for a few euro's/dollars. You can connect that little code thingy to your World of Warcraft account. When you want to login the little code thingy gives you a code. That you need to fill in. You also need to fill in your password.

So if you want to login you NEED that little code thingy. If you lost it. You need to send some account information to Arenanet (Like your activation codes or something).

So a hacker first needs to steal that little code thingy from you if he wants to hack you. So it is almost impossible. Quite good idea from Blizzard imo.
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Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Just.nl View Post
Quite good idea from Blizzard imo.
Yeah, I'd welcome that too.

Although I would point out that it's not Blizzard's idea. Security dongles have been around for a very long time, and Blizzard's is just a dumbed down version of the SecurID-style tokens.

Hyperventilate

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Just.nl View Post
/Signed.

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Other Idea; On World of Warcraft they have an Anti-Hack system now. You can buy a little code thingy for a few euro's/dollars. You can connect that little code thingy to your World of Warcraft account. When you want to login the little code thingy gives you a code. That you need to fill in. You also need to fill in your password.

So if you want to login you NEED that little code thingy. If you lost it. You need to send some account information to Arenanet (Like your activation codes or something).

So a hacker first needs to steal that little code thingy from you if he wants to hack you. So it is almost impossible. Quite good idea from Blizzard imo.
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I literally have like, 45 of these.

I go to BlizzCon every year and they give those things out like candy. Since I don't WoW, I never use them. They've just been accumulating, and they're the collector's edition ones that only are supplied at BlizzCon. I'd love to use them for something, so an idea like this would work. But, if you lose it, you're kind of SOL. A lot of people don't keep activation codes, so you could essentially lose your account forever just because you lost something. That would suck.

Rose Rune

Rose Rune

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2009

EST, US.

E/

/Notsigned. Why not just stop downloading porn and buy a good antivirus? If there are keyloggers, spyware, etc. on your machine than it is after all your fault. This seems like to much trouble for Anet to install into a game a special way to try and keep your account safe, and for the most part if you're not buying and selling accounts/Giving away personal info/Real world trading you should have no issues. If Anet were to install something like this there would be a lot of issues for the first few months and it would just cause grief. So that's why I say /no to this idea.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rose Rune View Post
/Notsigned. Why not just stop downloading porn and buy a good antivirus? If there are keyloggers, spyware, etc. on your machine than it is after all your fault. This seems like to much trouble for Anet to install into a game a special way to try and keep your account safe, and for the most part if you're not buying and selling accounts/Giving away personal info/Real world trading you should have no issues. If Anet were to install something like this there would be a lot of issues for the first few months and it would just cause grief. So that's why I say /no to this idea.
Typical moronic guru head-in-the-sand response.

If you use the web AT ALL you can get a keylogger or other malware.

If you use email, you can get a keylogger or malware.

If your friends are not so careful, they can get malware and pass it onto you by email, and you may just open/run it because it appeared to come from a friend.

Any number of ways you can get malware. If it ever happens, you better PRAY it's something old that your security software can recognise and deal with. (I realise it's difficult to pray with your head in the sand).

Of course, now you'll say, oh but why would Mr Keylogger want my GW account instead of my bank account? They couldn't be interested in everything I do, could they? They couldn't be part of a syndicate or ring, they couldn't pass on your details to whichever of them specialises in games RMT, could they? They couldn't get my account details for one thing and run a batch "try it on everything and see if the same details are used somewhere else", could they? No of course not, so stick your head back in the sand.