Hey, you. Yes you, the ranger. Are you tired of seeing Crit Barragers and Splinter Barrage Rits doing your job better than you do?
Well, worry no more!
Barrage
All your preparations are removed. Shoot arrows at target foe and 1 foe adjacent to your target per rank of expertise. These arrows strike for +5...17 damage if they hit.
Those Crit Barragers and Splinter Barrage rits will still be able to use Volley, but since it has twice the recharge time of Barrage, they won't be able to take away your raison d'etre any more!
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Barrage
reaper with no name
madriel222
There's nothing wrong with Barrage. The fact that other classes use this skill a bit better than the primary ranger only shows that there exists good synergy between this and the skills of other classes. The primary ranger still does plenty of things extremely well (condition spreading, front line, interrupting, raw damage), it's fine if they only do Barrage fairly well.
The Drunkard
lol@ the people who use splinter barrage- volley or IA is superior.
Barrage is only usefull with GDW, otherwise the damage is terrible.
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Barrage is only usefull with GDW, otherwise the damage is terrible.
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Desert Rose
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lol@ the people who use splinter barrage- volley or IA is superior.
Barrage is only usefull with GDW, otherwise the damage is terrible. /notsigned |
reaper with no name
You do know that a warrior with a zealous bow can use barrage, too? And better than a ranger, I might add, since he gets strength and decent IAS?
Just putting that out there.
Just putting that out there.
Desert Rose
A warrior needs to hit a least 5 enemies with every use of barrage just to compensate the energy cost of barrage itself, so no, a warrior with a zealous bow cannot use barrage, too.
Eragon Zarroc
12 expertise = hit 12 adjacent enemies? O_o
The Drunkard
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You do know that a warrior with a zealous bow can use barrage, too? And better than a ranger, I might add, since he gets strength and decent IAS?
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I'd rather buff barrage's dmg and reduce the number of hits than make it ranger exclusive.
Axel Zinfandel
Eh, I was under the impression that people, rangers included, use volley anyway
reaper with no name
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In theory, yes. But in practice, how often will that happen?
zwei2stein
Is this yet another olol-nerf-troll thread?
Tenebrae
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12 expertise = hit 12 adjacent enemies? O_o
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The Cake Archer
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12 expertise = hit 12 adjacent enemies? O_o
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Malache
Where did it say that Barrage only hits per lvl of expertise? I musta missed an update somewhere cuz mine still says hits 6 adjacent targets, nothing about hits so many per lvl...
Marty Silverblade
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Originally Posted by Malache
Where did it say that Barrage only hits per lvl of expertise? I musta missed an update somewhere cuz mine still says hits 6 adjacent targets, nothing about hits so many per lvl...
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majikmajikmajik
no. barrage is fine.
when your a Ranger primary, who cares about crit barrage or splinter? your the real deal.
when your a Ranger primary, who cares about crit barrage or splinter? your the real deal.
Cuilan
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Are you tired of seeing Crit Barragers
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upier
Needs more SoH before I start caring for it.
gremlin
I like to use a dervish barrage build for holy damage barrage I just wish there were more undead to beat up on.
It might be nice for gw2 to not just have fewer skills but for the primary class to use their own skills better than a secondary can.
I think they intended something along those lines with the primary skill lists it just didn't go far enough.
It might be nice for gw2 to not just have fewer skills but for the primary class to use their own skills better than a secondary can.
I think they intended something along those lines with the primary skill lists it just didn't go far enough.
ElnoreVarda
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This is guild wars, we have synergy and diversity here. Go play wow if you get jealous when other professions use a bow decently well.
Yes, crudely put but stop with the "only primary profession should be able to use this skill". Its bullshit, ruins the point with making builds. Barrage is fine, and with if it is with this mentality you want ER nerfed, I rather see it untouched just to spite you.
This is guild wars, we have synergy and diversity here. Go play wow if you get jealous when other professions use a bow decently well.
Yes, crudely put but stop with the "only primary profession should be able to use this skill". Its bullshit, ruins the point with making builds. Barrage is fine, and with if it is with this mentality you want ER nerfed, I rather see it untouched just to spite you.
SteeleB
Uhh, sorry no. Crit barrage is no where near as effective as splinter barrage. I've played crit barrage a lot and with the nerf/fix to sharpen daggers, you can forget it. As for rit barragers, I'm gonna have to laugh again. A ranger can use FW, I am the Strongest, BuH, and EBSoH, then throw on a splinter, and then SPAM barrage and do 100+ damage per arrow in HM on top of the aoe of splinter. I want to see a rit that can keep that up with the same survivability of a ranger. People seem to forget that rangers have 100 base armor against ele damage. Throw on a blocking stance or throw dirt and they're pretty golden.
Test Me
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Originally Posted by ElnoreVarda
if it is with this mentality you want ER nerfed, I rather see it untouched just to spite you.
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Xenex Xclame
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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc
12 expertise = hit 12 adjacent enemies? O_o
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Lariv
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Originally Posted by ElnoreVarda
This is guild wars, we have synergy and diversity here. Go play wow if you get jealous when other professions use a bow decently well.
Yes, crudely put but stop with the "only primary profession should be able to use this skill". Its bullshit, ruins the point with making builds. Barrage is fine, and with if it is with this mentality you want ER nerfed, I rather see it untouched just to spite you. |
Ugh
Not sure If I approve this buff/nerf, but rangers definately need something.
Condition spreading and rupting are great for PvE, right? (no)
And, rangers have plenty of possibilities for damage/frontlining that aren't clearly outshined by another class, right? (no)
Volley cuts your damage in half. IA? Really? How could you use IA in an effective PvE build?
It would be cool to have a good build that was actually more effective on a R/x than an x/R. The only desired roles for rangers in high-end PvP seems to be Splinter Barrage (better played by a rit) or EoE (better played by a rit).
Or, a rit can use FW, I am the Strongest, BuH, and EBSoH, then throw on a splinter, and then SPAM barrage (zealous mod) and do 100+ damage per arrow (actually, neither the rit nor the ranger would be doing 100+ damage with each arrow) in HM while doing shittons more damage with splinter than the ranger ever could. Splinter is where the real damage comes from.
Survivalibility is negligible if you have a competent monk and tank. And, if you're using Splinter Barrage, you most likely have a tank.
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Originally Posted by madriel222
The primary ranger still does plenty of things extremely well (condition spreading, front line, interrupting, raw damage), it's fine if they only do Barrage fairly well.
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And, rangers have plenty of possibilities for damage/frontlining that aren't clearly outshined by another class, right? (no)
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Originally Posted by The Drunkard
lol@ the people who use splinter barrage- volley or IA is superior.
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Yes, crudely put but stop with the "only primary profession should be able to use this skill". Its bullshit, ruins the point with making builds.
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A ranger can use FW, I am the Strongest, BuH, and EBSoH, then throw on a splinter, and then SPAM barrage and do 100+ damage per arrow in HM on top of the aoe of splinter. I want to see a rit that can keep that up with the same survivability of a ranger.
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Survivalibility is negligible if you have a competent monk and tank. And, if you're using Splinter Barrage, you most likely have a tank.
The Drunkard
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Originally Posted by Ugh
Volley cuts your damage in half. IA? Really? How could you use IA in an effective PvE build?
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If you read IA, you shoot three arrows and are allowed to use a prep when you attack. IA does more damage than barrage if the foes aren't already burning or have natural resistance with 6+ WS invested.
Tenebrae
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Originally Posted by The Drunkard
+8 damage from barrage or a slot for an elite skill that doesn't suck.
If you read IA, you shoot three arrows and are allowed to use a prep when you attack. IA does more damage than barrage if the foes aren't already burning or have natural resistance with 6+ WS invested. |
