Easiest way to stop Gold sellers hacking accounts

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

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Originally Posted by craigrs84 View Post
Listen...

The only way they could get your password without it being your fault is if they hacked directly into A-Net's database... Which I very highly doubt.
Are you trying to say that the NCSoft Server is safer than NASA, NSA, the Chineese anti-Hacker Web page, a new Mercedes, a house with a Burglar Alarm or a Legal copy of Windows?

As you can notice, every single one of these have either been hacked, stolen, broken into or copied with various methods and ways.

Now lets take the Password change function of the NCSoft master account. You dont need to verify the old password, just enter the new password 2 times and its changed. No Verification that the account holder is changing the password using a verifications link or code via email to the registered Email address used to link the account. No protection against the most simple of any hack known to man (Brute force Dictionary Password bot), you can enter the wrong password as many times as you want you will always be able to type the correct password after the 1000th wrong password attempt.

Do you really think that 100% of the people who have posted here and written Support tickets to Anet have ALL had imperfect Account Security on the User side?

And apart from that, how do you explain that quite a number of these hacks happened JUST after the user had followed the Security instructions by changing their NCSoft Password.

A friend of mine got hacked a few weeks ago a few Minutes after changing his password in this fashion. After he had retrieved his account, everything of any worth was gone (about 4 ectos, slightly less than 200K and a few farming weapons as well as his Minipets... not much, but still all he had). He then showed me the old password that was active at the time (not the one he used after the account was restored) and it was not any known word, just random letters and numbers. Seeing as only a few Ecto and about 200K were gone, its not as if he could have bought that small amount from a gold seller, because they sell in 500-1000K packages or 100-250 Ecto packages (Quick search via Ebay can show this... so no need to get blustered up because I have so much "Information" about how Gold sellers trade). Apart from that, Students are not really known for having money left over for something as "Important" as ingame currency.

I dont see anything in your posts that point to my friend being too lax with his account security. Quite the opposite in fact as he was changing his password every few months to stop it being Brute Forced.

gone

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Originally Posted by isildorbiafra View Post
Speaking of hackers. Lately I have recieved many of these. As you can see my e-mail filter program has no porblem weeding them out. I never leave home without it. By the way; never have I nor will I ever play WoW.
I missed this thread, but I've been getting the same shyte mails as well. it's been going on for at least 5 months, that I can remember. perhaps longer. I'm starting to get sick of it. because I know for each mail I delete, 10 people don't.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/e...t10416968.html

Voltaic Ectoplasm

Voltaic Ectoplasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mallyx's pimped out Crib

Mo/A

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Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale View Post
I dont want a new hat for xmas, I want something to protect the time and effort I put into this game. That would be the best xmas Anet gift of all.
Didn't read anything else, but noticed right away.....

Everybody wants a decent Xmas hat this year :P

nologic

nologic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sweden

E/

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Originally Posted by DetreS View Post
1.- Don't Buy Nothing to the Gold Sellers.
2.- Hide your e-mail account linked at game, don't use it for nothing (reg in forums, chats, paypal [if you are buying gold...], MSN, etc)
3.- Use a strong password with letters & numbers.
4.- Antivirus - Adaware - Anti Keyloggers - A Normal Security programs on your computer.

The best way is, don't use the email of loggin for nothing, if no one know's it, is impossible to hack your account.

Cya!

Ad-aware is probably the worst program ever Malwarebytes antimalware is better and goes a lot faster thou u have to update it manually.

But flash ads can still add upp keyloggers and antivirus program cant delete most of the virus sometimes req to do it manually in worst case reformatting the harddrive.

Buying gold for a RMT its not necessarily the issue either its enough to enter a website and you are already in the hands of an RMT.

I got one of my game keylogged but I didnt buy any gold either
so its just enough to visit a website.

Running firefox with the addons noscript and adblock plus can increase security.

Watch out for suspicious emails like they are asking for your username, password and hint question etc.

Change password daily also security is also coming up with new passwords that only you can remember no one else.

Louva A Deus

Louva A Deus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Sydney, Australia

Ascend of Things/ Nowhere/ Whatever

N/Me

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Originally Posted by Broseiden View Post
How rude and condescending. I'm sure if you were hacked by a chinese gold farmer, you would start making a topic and wondering how could it have happened.

I'm actually pretty upset with how unsecure my account feels in the hands of NCSoft right now. Got nothin' against Anet though.
I love how you jump to the racist conclusion that all gold farmers are Chinese, then proceed to rouse on someone for being "condescending". To be fair, if you get hacked, it is 99.99% your fault, whether you know it or not. Oh, and it's insecure, not "unsecure", dude. Don't get involved with any third party program, gold selling or anything MARGINALLY dodgy, and take all precautionary measures to look into things BEFORE you jump in with 2 feet.

Tullzinski

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Louva A Deus View Post
I love how you jump to the racist conclusion that all gold farmers are Chinese,
Ummm nowhere did the post state ALL gold farmers are chinese:

Originally Posted by Broseiden
I'm sure if you were hacked by a chinese gold farmer,
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Talk about jumping to a conclusion....

x sithis x

x sithis x

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

[Pro]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DetreS View Post
The best way is, don't use the email of loggin for nothing, if no one know's it, is impossible to hack your account.

Cya!
thats what i did 3 years ago xD just made a new email to just make gw account

lakatz

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

My NCSoft master account and Aion account just got hacked, and it was just a few hours after Aion put through a patch that banned 28,000 accounts on their NA and EU servers. The CM over at Aion posted on the 18th a rather boastful article about it... about how they use sophisticated techniques to tell who's a botter and who's not. He obvioiusly didn't have enough forethought or wherewithall or whatever to realize the gold sellers would simply steal 28,000 more accounts and keep going... since NCSoft doesn't use the simple and easy safeguards against brute force entry. I put in a ticket over 48 hours ago and still haven't heard from them. What do want to bet NCSoft support is overwhelmed and in the weeds since the ban hammer can down rather clumsily over there and not just because of the many accounts wrongfully banned but also because of the many accounts stolen since the ban.

unnamednewie13

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2010

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Originally Posted by Andemius View Post
lol easiest way is don't dlnd anything even slightly dodgy and have a stong password.

I don't think much of your ideas either, what if (hypothetically) I wanted rid of my fow armor because it's not to my liking any more?

I'd prefer that hat to be honest.
That isn't really the issue. While I'm sure that accounts with weak passwords get stolen often, accounts with strong passwords are also susceptible. I use strong, individualized alphanumeric passwords for my games and have had both Diablo II and (recently) Guild Wars accounts hijacked, regardless of my password security, firewall, router, and active anti-malware and anti-virus software. There are numerous reports of theft of similar natures on Guild Wars all over the internet. Just because it hasn't happened to you or your buddies yet doesn't mean that it's going on, and happening to people who are absolutely not at any fault.

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Originally Posted by lakatz View Post
...since NCSoft doesn't use the simple and easy safeguards against brute force entry. I put in a ticket over 48 hours ago and still haven't heard from them. What do want to bet NCSoft support is overwhelmed and in the weeds since the ban hammer can down rather clumsily over there and not just because of the many accounts wrongfully banned but also because of the many accounts stolen since the ban.
It took me over a week to finally get my password reset. Tech support was fairly spartan, despite my reminders every two days. I think they were overwhelmed. However, it isn't exactly as if Guild Wars is cheap once you deck it out with real money upgrades, so I think we deserve better. I'm sure glad I didn't get into Aion.

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

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Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale View Post
... "Sorry you cant destroy a customised item" ...
Storage space is already insufficient, or at least inconveniently small, to suffer not being able to destroy customized weapons or salvage upgrades from them.

Besides, the hackers would just delete characters, including the cursed items, out of spite. And sometimes deleted characters are more damage then a lost FoW armor.

/not signed


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Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale View Post
... If you did'nt want your FoW armor then move it to another char on your account. If you have'nt got the room buy another slot, Anet could use the money
Mhh, being able to move armor around between characters would be nice, wouldn't it.

So far the largest threat to your account that is not under your own control is using that shop - and now you are suggesting to use it - and expose our accounts - to compensate for the consequences of making customized items cursed.

Besides, mule characters wouldn't work, because if you want to prevent destruction of items you'd have to prevent them from being destroyed with when a character is deleted, meaning you'd have to prevent moving gear from storage to character unless it's customized for that character. Bad idea.

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Originally Posted by snowman relic View Post
heres what anet should do make it so you either need a waiting period of one week ...
That is actually a decent suggestion. Could also add an x minute timer after login before you can trade or salvage anything.

Playing Is Srs Bsns

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2010

Finland-land

Rage Like A Panda [?????????]

I got an idea. Lets not hand out passwords to anyone. Any1 signed?

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

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you can't stop criminals from preying on people. it really stinks but they find ways around things and always will.