My Xmas gift from Anet:

Krill

Krill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

America

My wish is that if it's only possible do a skill update every 2-3 months they stop buffing skills altogether. Even if it were possible to do more regular updates with ideas fully vetted by players beforehand the efficacy would be questionable, but as is it's been one painful blunder after another. What's that old saying about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results...hmm.

IninefingersI

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

Kansas

Righteous Anarchy [RA]

D/Me

Anets update policy is completely jacked.

They do BS updates like moving Nicholas the Vagrant out from behind a bush during prime-time playing hours. I don't know how many times I've had good runs ruined because of an update for some inane triviality.

To make matters worse, more often than not, they do a quick follow-up update because they didn't chech what they were changing and have to fix what they screwed up with the first update.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by IninefingersI View Post
Anets update policy is completely jacked.

They do BS updates like moving Nicholas the Vagrant out from behind a bush during prime-time playing hours. I don't know how many times I've had good runs ruined because of an update for some inane triviality.

To make matters worse, more often than not, they do a quick follow-up update because they didn't chech what they were changing and have to fix what they screwed up with the first update.
Hi Nine!

Anyway, yeah...I don't expect anything from Anet this Xmas. A skill update would be nice, but I'm more scared that they'll just fck that up...and I really don't want another balancing skill update. That's just pointless when the meta is this broken


Oh, my dream gift would be the XTH fixed. But that wont happen.

Just4Fun

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post

Oh, my dream gift would be the XTH fixed. But that wont happen.
forget the fixing, just give us our points that they owe us and the free level bump that they said they would give us.

IninefingersI

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

Kansas

Righteous Anarchy [RA]

D/Me

Hey, KJ.

I don't play but an hour or two a week anymore, because its started to make me dry heave. When I do play, I just stick to my own little microchosm. I don't even know what XTH is.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

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Originally Posted by Apok Omen View Post
I mean actually telling us what you are planning to do with certain skills, events, bosses, areas, etc. so we can either tell you how badly you are approaching it or how great a job you guys are doing.

You even promised to post which skills would be updated, how they would be changed, and why, and instead you only tell your Asurans so they can tell you what we have been telling you for years.
Uh.. they can't tell you that because we are still debating changes and discussing them? You want a good skill balance, and we are going to do our damnedest do give it to you. Now stop bitching.

IninefingersI

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

Kansas

Righteous Anarchy [RA]

D/Me

Ahhhh, nothing like a unchecked belligerence to spark the yuletide spirit. Its like a little slice of holiday cheer.

Polgara Val

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

TSR

Mo/Me

As far as I have seen, there hasent been a single peep from Anet for almost a week or so? Thats quite unusual even for Anet, thats probably what getting most people wound up like cheap clocks.

Even a little peep from Regina or anyone from Anet would appease some people at the moment.

Pol

Zesty

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

Mo/

Anet has always been in the community and also taking opinions from the community for a long time. They can't just give you what you want though. You have to take what they give you and play the game that way you can't just get a game which is perfect to play based on your opinion. People also have differing opinions of what is best, such as the nerfing of shadow form, so it wouldn't be easy to implement something like that anyways.

It's somewhat common knowledge that Izzy asked some people for their opinions on PvP rebalancing and I'm guessing there are some people out there in PvE who have been asked similar questions. These people are similar to what the test krewe are, probably not at the same skill level though. They are their to give opinions on changes anet is proposing not to say, "This is what to change and this is how you change it."

Anet's current level of interaction should be seen as major based on how they use a community derived testing team to work out current issues in the game. Sure it's not everyone giving their opinion but there are a good number of opinions coming straight from the community to them. I am as disappointed as anyone else who doesn't get to voice their opinions through the test krewe and interact with the live team but if I ever wanted to get my opinion to the live team I would probably go to one of the members of the test krewe with my issue or post on a forum. I wouldn't doubt that there is someone from Anet reading this thread right now really.

foeslayr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Forsaken Alliance

Me/Mo

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Originally Posted by IninefingersI View Post
Ahhhh, nothing like a unchecked belligerence to spark the yuletide spirit. Its like a little slice of holiday cheer.
That is going on my holiday greeting cards.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

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Originally Posted by IninefingersI View Post
Ahhhh, nothing like a unchecked belligerence to spark the yuletide spirit. Its like a little slice of holiday cheer.
Call it belligerence all day and night. It doesn't change that fact that we are working on the skill update, and that no matter which way you word damn threads, they all say the same thing: "QQ!!!!!111!!"

And personally, I don't appreciate the fact that my hard work on the Test Krewe is being ignored because you guys are so horrendously impatient. I believe I speak for the entire Test Krewe when I say, "Learn some patience."

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Even a little peep from Regina or anyone from Anet would appease some people at the moment.
One word: Bullshit.

Many words: Bullshit. No one is ever appeased around here.

That said, Happy Holidays!

Nerel

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

Mo/

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief View Post
Call it belligerence all day and night. It doesn't change that fact that we are working on the skill update, and that no matter which way you word damn threads, they all say the same thing: "QQ!!!!!111!!"

And personally, I don't appreciate the fact that my hard work on the Test Krewe is being ignored because you guys are so horrendously impatient. I believe I speak for the entire Test Krewe when I say, "Learn some patience."



One word: Bullshit.

Many words: Bullshit. No one is ever appeased around here.

That said, Happy Holidays!
QQ less, Skill balance moar. And if you could manage it with a little less hyperbole and a lot less self aggrandizement, that would be really cool too.

Yeah, happy holidays or something...

Shadey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

/vent

All i wanna say is I think they do a great job..yeh some things are broke and may be taking time to sort it but so what,Seriously if i was them i would tell ya all to go jump and let GW die.
your a bunch of ungrateful pricks and the quicker u get mad and /ragequit gw the better!

Have a great xmas.

Nerel

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

Mo/

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief View Post
Many words: Bullshit. No one is ever appeased around here.
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Originally Posted by Shadey View Post
/vent

All i wanna say is I think they do a great job..yeh some things are broke and may be taking time to sort it but so what,Seriously if i was them i would tell ya all to go jump and let GW die.
your a bunch of ungrateful pricks and the quicker u get mad and /ragequit gw the better!

Have a great xmas.
No one is ever appeased? At least one person is drinking the Kool-Aid, you were saying Rahja?

AKB48

AKB48

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2008

みやき町

Mo/A

Buff Shadow Form to: 1e 1/2 cast 10rc with the effect: "for 60 seconds, all skills used against you fail and you gain +10.....100 health +5.....25 energy and attack 33% faster, when this skill ends, you lose all but 5......100 health".




LOLOLOLOL. joking ofc, but yea, it would be hilarious if Anet actually did just that haha, would make my Xmas wonderful ;pppp.

tejive

tejive

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2009

:>

notplayingGWatm[:o]

Mo/

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Originally Posted by AKB48 View Post
Buff Shadow Form to: 1e 1/2 cast 10rc with the effect: "for 60 seconds, all skills used against you fail and you gain +10.....100 health +5.....25 energy and attack 33% faster, when this skill ends, you lose all but 5......100 health".




LOLOLOLOL. joking ofc, but yea, it would be hilarious if Anet actually did just that haha, would make my Xmas wonderful ;pppp.
but you could be autoattacked to death ^^

Mad Queen Malafide

Mad Queen Malafide

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Underworld

Unknown

N/R

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Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
My xmas gift from Anet would be to have them fix Guild Wars, but having them make any attempt to do so would just ruin the game even more.

The more they put into it, the worse it gets.


-Pet controls
-Heroes (an alternative for henchmen)
-Extra account panels
-A boss at the end of the Underworld
-Rewards at the end of each campaign
-End chests for dungeons
-Hall of Monuments
-Pet Menagerie
-Party search option
-Pvp observer options
-New pvp /rank emote
-Equipment packs
-Reconnection options in the case of a disconnect
-A shapeshifting profession
-An alternative healer profession
-Ridable wurms
-Nicholas the Traveler
-High end (green) weapons
-The battle islands
-Alliance battles
-Dishonerable system for leavers
-Tomb of the Primeval Kings dungeon
-Underworld and Fissure of Woe scrolls for instant access
-Chests that require a key or lockpick
-Lockpicks and keys for those chests
-Titles in general
-A cartographer title (people requested a reward for unfogging the whole map)
-Special event items for St. Patricksday and even "Talk like a pirate day".
-Report options for leechers, spammers and scammers
-Hard mode
-Countless bug fixes over the past few years

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

You know, It's one thing to go "sorry dudes, we can't keep up so we're doing this every -other- month", but it's a whole other thing to completely FAIL in delivering that as well. Are we going to start doing quarterly skill updates now, and then end up waiting half a year for them?

IDK, I don't play the game anymore. It's beyond boring for me anymore. I just like making builds, so naturally all I care about anymore is the skill updates, and frankly, "train wreck" doesn't even begin to describe those.

Either live up to the standards you present, Anet, or... *GASP* Don't make standards.

It's a lot easier to please people when instead of saying "skill updates every other month", you say "skill updates whenever we feel like it"

You don't have a deadline, Anet. when you set dates and don't meet them, it makes you look like a crappy team. When you don't set dates, and cranks stuff out whenever you can, you look a lot better. That's the trouble with being connected to your fanbase like that.

Nerel

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

Mo/

-Heroes (an alternative for henchmen) Which have caused endless complaints on the PVP side of things, and were eventually removed wholesale from PvP.

-Extra account panels: Storage chest panels? Which caused endless QQ over pricing, and were a nightmare for the free give away promotion, requiring accounts to be tied to an NCsoft master account and the alleged security risks it brings, not to mention all the people wrongly banned for fraudulent credit card transactions.

-A boss at the end of the Underworld: Yes, just go and look at the QQ threads regarding "The waiting game" to see how well that was initially received.

-Rewards at the end of each campaign: Yes, after three years they went back and added a reward to the end of Prophecies to bring it inline with the other campaigns.

-Hall of Monuments: Yes, this never had bugs.

-Equipment packs: QQ threads regarding the Zaishen coin cost, or the required grind of old content (as opposed to creating actual new content) inherent in the big birthday update. And they rebalanced the rewards not long after release.

-Reconnection options in the case of a disconnect: This was a great addition, and LONG OVERDUE.

-A shapeshifting profession: Wait, what? Not in this game, I'm afraid.

-An alternative healer profession: Oh Elementalists, or Ritualists? edit: (Or Dervish? Or Paragon?)

-Nicholas the Traveler: How dare you forget to mention the ever adorable Professor Yakkington!

-High end (green) weapons: That quickly became low end green weapons. But yes, they were nice while they lasted.

-Dishonerable system for leavers: And also the dishonorable system for people who bother to report leeches, awesome work there too.

-Chests that require a key or lockpick: I could be mistaken, but weren't keys added to counter people running the previous free unlocked chests, especially those located near a portal that could be endlessly farmed?

-Lockpicks and keys for those chests: Yes, credit to Anet here, they added chest that require keys, and had the wisdom to also add the required keys... pure genius.

-Titles in general: That had to be majorly reworked due to extensive botting of certain titles (oh noes, too hard!), that they messed up a number of times (The Hero title, from memory) while rebalancing titles, and of course, the QQ that continues to this day... tying skills to titles.

-Report options for leechers, spammers and scammers: That got abused and resulted in far more QQ than if they were never added. /Report became both a joke and a weapon of vindication against anyone who offended lamers.

-Countless bug fixes over the past few years: And nearly as many bugs added during updates and skill balancing.

Just a small sampling of fail. Wow, that was such a negative post... umm, I love Yakkington... goodwork Anet, thanks for the Yak.

I did notice that the XTH was STRANGELY ABSENT from your list.

IninefingersI

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

Kansas

Righteous Anarchy [RA]

D/Me

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Originally Posted by Shadey View Post
/vent

All i wanna say is I think they do a great job..yeh some things are broke and may be taking time to sort it but so what,Seriously if i was them i would tell ya all to go jump and let GW die.
your a bunch of ungrateful pricks and the quicker u get mad and /ragequit gw the better!

Have a great xmas.
Actually, you have it backwards. Anet is a business and everyone with a GW account is a customer.

The customer has a right to complain if they are dissatisfied with a product/service.

Dealing with the people you take money from is just the nature of the beast. They have to either fix it, deal with it, or find a new business and another way to line their pockets.

I can tell you for a fact, that if I was in charge of a multi-million dollar product like GW and I had someone associated with it in any way who wanted to spew a diatribe of .... qq ... bullshit this .... qq ... bullshit that ... qq .... you dont appreciate us ... to my customer base, I'd find a new associate. The gaming industry is way too competitive to alienate the people whose money keeps the lights on.

And thanks for the holiday wishes. Same to you.

Nerel

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

Mo/

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Originally Posted by IninefingersI View Post
I can tell you for a fact, that if I was in charge of a multi-million dollar product like GW and I had someone associated with it in any way who wanted to spew a diatribe of .... qq ... bullshit this .... qq ... bullshit that ... qq .... you dont appreciate us ... to my customer base, I'd find a new associate.
Or maybe make sure the problems people are whining about GET FIXED. Just a thought.

Shadey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

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Originally Posted by IninefingersI View Post
Actually, you have it backwards. Anet is a business and everyone with a GW account is a customer.

The customer has a right to complain if they are dissatisfied with a product/service.

Dealing with the people you take money from is just the nature of the beast. They have to either fix it, deal with it, or find a new business and another way to line their pockets.

I can tell you for a fact, that if I was in charge of a multi-million dollar product like GW and I had someone associated with it in any way who wanted to spew a diatribe of .... qq ... bullshit this .... qq ... bullshit that ... qq .... you dont appreciate us ... to my customer base, I'd find a new associate. The gaming industry is way too competitive to alienate the people whose money keeps the lights on.

And thanks for the holiday wishes. Same to you.
I understand that..and your right..I was just venting cause all i ever see on here is moaning and bitching and people seem to forget all the good things theyve done.
Thats why i could never do there job cause I couldnt keep my mouth shut

Mad Queen Malafide

Mad Queen Malafide

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Underworld

Unknown

N/R

If you went back now to the original game, I'm sure you'll be back to Guild Wars as it is now really fast. People don't appreciate the effort love and attention Arenanet puts into this (no monthly cost!) game and people are so easy to forget all the things that were added over the years. It's so easy to complain. How about being constructive for a change?

IninefingersI

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

Kansas

Righteous Anarchy [RA]

D/Me

Well, that no monthly cost arguement doesn't wash.

Man goes in to buy a car.

Salesman: I have this brand new car with 100,000 mile warranty for $2,000. You'll love it, I promise.

Man: Great, I'll take it.

Car blows up after 50,000 miles.

Man: Fix my car, its still under warranty.

Salesman: Screw you, and stop bitching. You only paid 2k. I think you got your money's worth. Just wait another year and I'll sell you another car that is much better ..... I promise.

AKB48

AKB48

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2008

みやき町

Mo/A

My Xmas present from Anet:

1) Buff SF
2) Give me 100 of each of the rare minis.
3) Pretty much let me get whatever I want. (which makes 1) and 2) pointless.......lol)


Lol. ;pp

Mad Queen Malafide

Mad Queen Malafide

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Underworld

Unknown

N/R

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Originally Posted by IninefingersI View Post
Well, that no monthly cost arguement doesn't wash.

Man goes in to buy a car.

Salesman: I have this brand new car with 100,000 mile warranty for $2,000. You'll love it, I promise.

Man: Great, I'll take it.

Car blows up after 50,000 miles.

Man: Fix my car, its still under warranty.

Salesman: Screw you, and stop bitching. You only paid 2k. I think you got your money's worth. Just wait another year and I'll sell you another car that is much better ..... I promise.
Your comparison doesn't wash either. You've got a game that most of us have been playing for over 3 years (instead of the usual 8 hours, or incase of Modern Warfare 2, -5 hours), yet without any of the monthly costs involved in this genre... and on top of that, you have free bug fixes, and free additional content. That doesn't mean you can't complain, but by Grenth be thankful for a change. A lot of the team even use their spare time to make sure we have more fun.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

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Originally Posted by Mad Queen Malafide View Post
You've got a game that most of us have been playing for over 3 years (instead of the usual 8 hours, or incase of Modern Warfare 2, -5 hours)
Fun fact- CoD is a FPS, Guild Wars is a MMO (it was MMCORPG but has deteriorated into a mmo). You are comparing two completely different genres and two different audiences.

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Your comparison doesn't wash either.
Neither does yours.

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Originally Posted by Mad Queen Malafide View Post
yet without any of the monthly costs involved in this genre... and on top of that, you have free bug fixes, and free additional content. That doesn't mean you can't complain, but by Grenth be thankful for a change.
Sure, they have no obligation to care for the game they've put out. However, it would be stupid of them to not try and constantly update their game since the playerbase would move on to another game.

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A lot of the team even use their spare time to make sure we have more fun.
Sadly I only see this with the current team since it's so small. I seem to recall in prior dev updates (with the "full" team) that a lot of them played other games such as TF2 in their spare time.

To me this year was pretty bad for GW's rep as a whole, but I guess it's now all water under the bridge. The most important concern I have is how Anet is going to handle another year with a tiny team and a lack of expansions to maintain their image for GW2. Stronger communication would be appreciated for future updates as new projects that they plan to implement (even if they later scrap them).

AKB48

AKB48

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2008

みやき町

Mo/A

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Originally Posted by The Drunkard View Post
To me this year was pretty bad for GW's rep as a whole, but I guess it's now all water under the bridge. The most important concern I have is how Anet is going to handle another year with a tiny team and a lack of expansions to maintain their image for GW2. Stronger communication would be appreciated for future updates as new projects that they plan to implement (even if they later scrap them).
The thing I wish this tiny team would do, more than any other, is to give us players something new to chew on. For ex: in pretty much any other mmos, you get updates of new areas expanded, new place to go and explore. But Gw lack precisely this, you get the same old updates recycled every single weekend, it's like rereading the books you have read a billion times already. Even if it's gonna take them awhile or even a long time to make it, as long as the stuff is good once it comes out, I got nothing to complain.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief View Post
Call it belligerence all day and night. It doesn't change that fact that we are working on the skill update, and that no matter which way you word damn threads, they all say the same thing: "QQ!!!!!111!!"

And personally, I don't appreciate the fact that my hard work on the Test Krewe is being ignored because you guys are so horrendously impatient. I believe I speak for the entire Test Krewe when I say, "Learn some patience."
Fck patience, get back to work and don't screw up the skill update.

neighto

neighto

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Heart of Life is [Love]

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Originally Posted by Mad Queen Malafide View Post
Your comparison doesn't wash either. You've got a game that most of us have been playing for over 3 years (instead of the usual 8 hours, or incase of Modern Warfare 2, -5 hours), yet without any of the monthly costs involved in this genre... and on top of that, you have free bug fixes, and free additional content. That doesn't mean you can't complain, but by Grenth be thankful for a change. A lot of the team even use their spare time to make sure we have more fun.
Your comparison doesn't wash either.

The game is what it is. No monthy fees, etc., etc., all included in the price you pay to use the software. It's not free fixes, free updates, occassional free content. You PAY for that when you purchase your game copy. That's their schtick, their advertising gimmick ... their lure for players.