Shouldnt run this slow...
Bwathke
Hey, I just got GW trilogy and Im loving it! There is just one problem... When I run the game I get 5-9 FPS. The thing is I have a Nvidia GeForce 6200 256MB (Best I can get for a PCI slot) I have played (I wont say names for obvious reasons XD) games with better graphics (Such as FPS games) with NO lag I got around 90 FPS on my favorite FPS. I put on GW and I get HORRIBLE lag. Changing the graphics dosent do a single thing if Im at worse graphics with 800x600 res I get 5-9 FPS. If Im at best graphics with 1024x768 res I get 5-9 FPS :/ Ive tried installing older versions of my driver but nothing helped so I put on the latest version and still nothing. Thanks for reading this!
thelessa
How much ram do you have and do you run Guild Wars in a window?
Bwathke
I run in windowed and I think 1GB ram (Your talking harddrive right?)
gone
your options are pretty limited. I'd start with:
turn off v-sync
turn off post processing
try the -noshaders switch
turn off v-sync
turn off post processing
try the -noshaders switch
Bwathke
If I do those I get around 10 FPS :/ Im wondering if I can change anything relating to DX9/8? (I can use either)
gone
you can force the game to run in dx 8 and with no shaders via
-dx8 -noshaders
also as stated running in windowed mode is probably hitting you performance wise.
If you're lucky you might see the mid 20's all by your lonesome. in a -busy- town or outpost, forget about it.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Command_line
-dx8 -noshaders
also as stated running in windowed mode is probably hitting you performance wise.
If you're lucky you might see the mid 20's all by your lonesome. in a -busy- town or outpost, forget about it.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Command_line
Bwathke
I heard that windowed helped :/ Ill try with those flags and fullscreen and Ill give you my results 
Thanks for all the quick replies!
Thanks for all the quick replies!
gone
it might. I've had various results. what OS are you running?
Bwathke
Ok In Ascalon City I get 7 FPS (Not a surprise) and fighting in Old Ascalon I get about 8-10 :/ So its a bit better but not great. Im using Ubuntu 9.10 but that isnt the problem because as I said changing the graphics dosent effect my FPS much or at all. (Also the games I play with WINE have no trouble its only GW and some of the others also use DX with no trouble) Ive heard of defragging but I dont know if that will help?
thelessa
I was not able to run windowed until I bought a new video card with 512 ram and upped the machines ram to 1 gig.
Bwathke
But you were fine in fullscreen? That seems strange to me...
mathiastemplar
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Ok In Ascalon City I get 7 FPS (Not a surprise) and fighting in Old Ascalon I get about 8-10 :/ So its a bit better but not great. Im using Ubuntu 9.10 but that isnt the problem because as I said changing the graphics dosent effect my FPS much or at all. (Also the games I play with WINE have no trouble its only GW and some of the others also use DX with no trouble) Ive heard of defragging but I dont know if that will help?
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Even with my 512mb ddr3/ 4 gigs of RAM (lap), GW sucked..
Get windows7.
Cheers
Bwathke
Im stuck with Ubuntu :P Ive never heard of anyone having the trouble that Im having with a WORSE card on Ubuntu :/ Thats why Im thinking it has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
PS - Ive heard more stories about Windows 7 having issues with GW then Ubuntu
PS - Ive heard more stories about Windows 7 having issues with GW then Ubuntu
thelessa
Was great in full screen, but as soon as I made those changes I was able to run it windowed with no problem.
mathiastemplar
Well.. GW ran perfectly when I used Windows7 (beta)..
Why are you stuck with Ubuntu?
Why are you stuck with Ubuntu?
Bwathke
Because thats my OS and its the one I use ^^ I just need some way to reduce lag thats all.
moriz
linux is not meant for gaming. if you want to game, use windows. even with my desktop (with very good hardware), GW ran at 3 fps under ubuntu, even after i've fiddled with it for hours. on windows, it ran at 300 fps.
magao
You only have a couple of options:
1. Find a better PCI video card (not likely);
2. Buy a new computer that can take a PCI-e video card.
1. Find a better PCI video card (not likely);
2. Buy a new computer that can take a PCI-e video card.
Eddie Frenzy Spam
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I have played (I wont say names for obvious reasons XD) games with better graphics (Such as FPS games) with NO lag I got around 90 FPS on my favorite FPS.
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Bob Slydell
You are EMULATING GW on a non GW friendly platform. Now, I understand other games may work right with it and I know that is what the emulator is for. Believe me, I tried running GW on Mac OS X and quit back to Windows with bootcamp. But seriously/realistically...
I would seriously consider partitioning yourself a little space for Windows and GW on your PC, and I'm sure you can pick up a cheapish copy of XP on ebay with a legit serial key (since they dont sell XP retail anymore).
I wouldn't bother with Windows 7 on that system, XP will use less resources. I still use XP and it works great. I'll upgrade when I get a new PC or when I am literally forced to. F Windows 7.
I would seriously consider partitioning yourself a little space for Windows and GW on your PC, and I'm sure you can pick up a cheapish copy of XP on ebay with a legit serial key (since they dont sell XP retail anymore).
I wouldn't bother with Windows 7 on that system, XP will use less resources. I still use XP and it works great. I'll upgrade when I get a new PC or when I am literally forced to. F Windows 7.
subarucar
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with NO lag I got around 90 FPS on my favorite FPS.
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Low FPS is not lag. Lag is latency which is the time taken for a data packet to be sent to the "other end".
FPS is how many frames appear on your screen per second (as the name implies).
Lag is internet related, FPS is hardware (and sometimes software as shown by your case) related.
Bwathke
Ok, the reason I wont go to windows is because I have gotten viruses (even by ONLY installing things that are from CD and not downloading anything.) and it crashed my computer. The games I get perfectly running are...
Tremulous
Alien Arena (Native)
Rohan Blood Feud
Perfect World International
and more...
I have an AGP slot (I think) so do you have a recommended video card for that? Thanks for all the replies! Im sticking with Ubuntu though.
Tremulous
Alien Arena (Native)
Rohan Blood Feud
Perfect World International
and more...
I have an AGP slot (I think) so do you have a recommended video card for that? Thanks for all the replies! Im sticking with Ubuntu though.
moriz
i personally think you are lying, unless you are installing from nonlegitimate CDs, or know nothing about basic computer security. windows, and especially windows vista and 7, are both very secure. with proper precautions in place, it's almost impossible to get a virus unless the user installs it him/herself.
buying a new graphic card is only going to help so much. running GW with an emulator is a very hit or miss deal, and you will NEVER get full performance out of your hardware.
buying a new graphic card is only going to help so much. running GW with an emulator is a very hit or miss deal, and you will NEVER get full performance out of your hardware.
thelessa
Shoot, with a good firewall and antivirus Windows XP can be very secure.
A Radeon X1650 Pro 512MB Agp, (you can get one for about $60 from Amazon), is the card I was using in my old computer and still runs Guild Wars very nicely. Since you are running it with an emulator there is no telling if this will improve GWs for you or not.
A Radeon X1650 Pro 512MB Agp, (you can get one for about $60 from Amazon), is the card I was using in my old computer and still runs Guild Wars very nicely. Since you are running it with an emulator there is no telling if this will improve GWs for you or not.
Bwathke
Well first why would I have a reason to lie? What good would that do for me? Second I know several people who get virus on computer that they can only access the Internet from (Such as a school laptop) You can easily get infected from MySpace, Facebook, Flash game websites or websites that just want to store "information" on your computer. I know I cant get the full performance going through WINE ([W]ine [I]s [N]ot an [E]mulator) because its a whole new layer. So that is what I have to say. I just want a way to get more FPS by doing something across all OS. (Such as defragging or something like that its called)
subarucar
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Second I know several people who get virus on computer that they can only access the Internet from (Such as a school laptop) You can easily get infected from MySpace, Facebook, Flash game websites or websites that just want to store "information" on your computer.
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Damian Manson
Ok i know alot of replies should have helped but may i ask what processor your also running because from the looks of it your best option would be to get a new pc if your running a pci graphics card your options are very limited
Another point if you do have an agp slot getting a new graphics card wont do moot for you well it will but not much if its an older cpu your running also as has been suggested using linux based OS's can work with gw but can also be very temperamental and tend to not be run with older systems.
and last point windows does have its security issues but ever since xp i have had no problem with windows if you know how to make sure your pc is secure
and the only reason linux is better is cause the hackers/virus makers dont tend to make viruses for linux cause it doesnt give them as good if any reward for it since there is a good few people less using linux than there is windows :P anyways sorry for a mini wall just in from work hope it helps.
if you could let us know the full system specs of the pc it would help alot
on us helping you out full specs would be, what cpu be it amd or intel and its name ie pentium 3 or 4 or amd athlon/64 and its mhz/ghz its running at, the amount of ram you have be it 64mb-8gb whichever :P we know your gpu and operating system and i wish you good luck at getting it sorted
Another point if you do have an agp slot getting a new graphics card wont do moot for you well it will but not much if its an older cpu your running also as has been suggested using linux based OS's can work with gw but can also be very temperamental and tend to not be run with older systems.
and last point windows does have its security issues but ever since xp i have had no problem with windows if you know how to make sure your pc is secure
and the only reason linux is better is cause the hackers/virus makers dont tend to make viruses for linux cause it doesnt give them as good if any reward for it since there is a good few people less using linux than there is windows :P anyways sorry for a mini wall just in from work hope it helps.
if you could let us know the full system specs of the pc it would help alot
on us helping you out full specs would be, what cpu be it amd or intel and its name ie pentium 3 or 4 or amd athlon/64 and its mhz/ghz its running at, the amount of ram you have be it 64mb-8gb whichever :P we know your gpu and operating system and i wish you good luck at getting it sorted
Elder III
Bwathke - I am sorry to say this, but you need to believe the above posters who say that Guild Wars does not work well on Linux. It's just a sad fact. Some games work fine on Linux, but most "mainstream" games do not work well with Linux/Ubuntu.
You have no need to fear Windows, I know that Ubuntu has some benefits, but if you can afford $85-100 you should buy a legit. copy of Windows (I suggest Xp for your current computer, Win 7 is very very nice, but it might be a drag on your current hardware) and then do your gaming on Windows. It's just better, mainly for the fact that the vast majority of games are made for Windows.
You may or may not be interested, but if you want to check out a MMORPG that was designed with Linux in mind (also works on OSX and Windows) check out Regnum Online. It's PVP oriented once you reach higher levels, but it's a fun game and free.
You have no need to fear Windows, I know that Ubuntu has some benefits, but if you can afford $85-100 you should buy a legit. copy of Windows (I suggest Xp for your current computer, Win 7 is very very nice, but it might be a drag on your current hardware) and then do your gaming on Windows. It's just better, mainly for the fact that the vast majority of games are made for Windows.
You may or may not be interested, but if you want to check out a MMORPG that was designed with Linux in mind (also works on OSX and Windows) check out Regnum Online. It's PVP oriented once you reach higher levels, but it's a fun game and free.
Bwathke
I believe that Windows is MUCH better for gaming but I have had to many bad experiences with it. I have a legit copy of XP (Possibly Vista but there is NO chance Im installing that) I just noticed something... I booted up PWI because I haven't played it for awhile. I started playing and my FPS dropped down to where GW was at... So Im starting to suspect something happened in the time period that I was not playing. I reset my computer and I took the top off of it (In case it was overheating) I saw the fan was blowing directly into a big sheet of metal therefore not cooling it at all. My PC dosent have the best processor but its still pretty fast (Boots up native things in a heartbeat) Im using a full-height video card in a half height holder so I had to manipulate the top and Im thinking I might have overheated my computer... If I did I will feel really really dumb and Im sorry if all this wasted your time 
Thanks for all the replies I will tell you my results.
Results~
9-11 FPS in LA
12-17 FPS in the outside world
Notes~
My computer was overheating........ Im so sorry for wasting your time I cant believe it took me a week to even find that...
Thanks for all the replies I will tell you my results.Results~
9-11 FPS in LA
12-17 FPS in the outside world
Notes~
My computer was overheating........ Im so sorry for wasting your time I cant believe it took me a week to even find that...
Elder III
what kind of temperatures are you hitting while gaming now?
Bwathke
It wasn't too hot but I guess it was enough... It was hot enough for me to know its not supposed to get that temperature.
tracer200
how can you be loving it with that much fps? anyway I dont know why your having a problem....
Bwathke
The FPS is fine for now but if I play to long it degrades if I play for an hour I get down to 7-9 FPS like normal :/ Any ideas with whats doing that?