So all the E/A builds rely on SF but what will replace SF?

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Krytan Explorer

A/R

Joined Apr 2008

Dec 16, 2009 at 7:52 PM • #1

I was going to make a E/A for farming purposes for winters-day and other event weekends, but in all honesty if and when SF gets nerfed whats the point? what will replace it? Mist Form?

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gone

Guest

Joined Jan 2007

Dec 16, 2009 at 7:53 PM • #2

back to terra tank

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Only Us[NotU]

E/

Joined Aug 2006

Dec 16, 2009 at 7:56 PM • #3

Instead of asking what next, make the what next.

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a-kyle

Krytan Explorer

A/R

Joined Apr 2008

Dec 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM • #4

Whats a terra tank?

Teknikaali

Frost Gate Guardian

Rt/

Joined Nov 2007

Dec 16, 2009 at 8:17 PM • #5

Quote: Originally Posted by Perkunas

Instead of asking what next, make the what next. /agreed on this one. Be the one.

Swahnee

Wilds Pathfinder

Mo/

Joined Jul 2008

Dec 16, 2009 at 8:18 PM • #6

Quote: Originally Posted by a-kyle View Post

Whats a terra tank? This:

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:E/Me_Obby_Flesh_Tank

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

LaZy

P/W

Joined Sep 2007

Dec 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM • #7

SAme as what always happens. It'll go back to old methods until someone makes something more efficiant.

Turk The Legendary

Wilds Pathfinder

Club of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

W/

Joined Sep 2009

Dec 16, 2009 at 8:59 PM • #8

lol this sf nerf talk is getting rediculous. Even if they do nerf it, im sure it will still be highly abusable and if not who cares, it should be nerfed anyway

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

E/Me

Joined Jul 2009

Dec 16, 2009 at 9:09 PM • #9

and anyway.. i have a friend that has like a cusin(not sure on the relationship) that works w/ the live team and Anet(or NCsoft) that the team plans on making SF a block chance.. i have no way to prove this but thats just what i heard... so ignore or beleive this as u want.. i only report on whats happening xD

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The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Still looking

Rt/

Joined Nov 2007

Dec 16, 2009 at 9:14 PM • #10

Quote: Originally Posted by itachimizu View Post

and anyway.. i have a friend that has like a cusin(not sure on the relationship) that works w/ the live team and Anet(or NCsoft) that the team plans on making SF a block chance.. i have no way to prove this but thats just what i heard... so ignore or beleive this as u want.. i only report on whats happening xD I call BS

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Critical_Defenses

give me +1 tyvm

Grunntar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Joined Apr 2005

Dec 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM • #11

Quote: Originally Posted by itachimizu

and anyway.. i have a friend that has like a cusin(not sure on the relationship) that works w/ the live team and Anet(or NCsoft) that the team plans on making SF a block chance.. i have no way to prove this but thats just what i heard... so ignore or beleive this as u want.. i only report on whats happening xD English is such a wonderful language! I highly suggest that you give it try sometime!

Would you care to expand on your comment, so that other people could actually understand the statement? (Please? I know that you are trying to something, and I'd kinda like to know it is.) Ideas on a possible change to this skill would be interesting to read.

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

Joined Apr 2007

Dec 16, 2009 at 9:27 PM • #12

Let's see... Obsi still works (you can take a bit of damage once in a while, remember?), Prot spirit/bond can still keep you alive for a while, Rit spirits can also help cover a bit (actually most rit buffes are unremovable so...), VwK variations... Then there's all the DPS-race builds : a bit of protection (blind, prot spirit, shield of protection,...) with a good damage output (remember : those build won't help you tank, but anyone can tank a dead monster)... And for lower end farming : warrior stances!

Quote: Originally Posted by itachimizu

and anyway.. i have a friend that has like a cusin(not sure on the relationship) that works w/ the live team and Anet(or NCsoft) that the team plans on making SF a block chance.. i have no way to prove this but thats just what i heard... so ignore or beleive this as u want.. i only report on whats happening xD If there is any kind of truth in this, it's very good news! But there's already flashing blade... With some (a lot) of luck, it wil be a damage redux or will protect from spells a bit.

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Me/

Joined Mar 2008

Dec 16, 2009 at 9:37 PM • #13

Good luck using a slow moving build. Maybe try something other than tank and spank.

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Johny bravo

Wilds Pathfinder

[SoS]

N/

Joined Aug 2006

Dec 16, 2009 at 9:51 PM • #14

There are other builds. For Doa 3 man 600/smite can already do foundry and city in under 40 min I am sure the 600 tank can be worked into some other team builds to act as a tank. Might not be as fast but look at UW, they are down to 30 min already after the skeletons and Dhuum were introduced. FowSC is down to 11 min.

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mrvrod

Guest01

Joined Jul 2006

Dec 16, 2009 at 10:02 PM • #15

Quote: Originally Posted by Johny bravo

There are other builds. For Doa 3 man 600/smite can already do foundry and city in under 40 min I am sure the 600 tank can be worked into some other team builds to act as a tank. Might not be as fast but look at UW, they are down to 30 min already after the skeletons and Dhuum were introduced. FowSC is down to 11 min. That's just way too fast! I hope they nerf 600 next.

Ambitious

Ascalonian Squire

E/R

Joined Aug 2009

Dec 16, 2009 at 10:05 PM • #16

Quote: Originally Posted by Grunntar View Post

English is such a wonderful language! I highly suggest that you give it try sometime!

Would you care to expand on your comment, so that other people could actually understand the statement? (Please? I know that you are trying to say something, and I'd kinda like to know what it is.) Ideas on a possible change to this skill would be interesting to read. Looks like you're missing some words there, Oh Master Of The English Language.

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

Joined Jun 2005

Dec 16, 2009 at 10:23 PM • #17

People need to remember that Guild Wars exists all over the world and that while English is required on this forum, it does not mean that non-US people are posting and that English may be a second or third language. So, figure out if the person is fluent in English before you bash their spelling and grammar.

Back on topic, I doubt that people will go back to Obsidian Flesh tanks, because it pretty much destroys much of the "speed" part of Speed Clear. If Shadow Form changes I imagine people will still find it is the dominant skill used in clears just with modifications or extra support characters.