Sold everything (Victo's Bulwark, Superior Vigor Rune, Superior Absorption Rune, 4 Superior Tactics runes, -50 Health Grim Cesta) except my Victo's Axe and Superior Axe Mastery rune to 2 different people. Wanna know how most that cost me? About 200K. Wanna know what I got for it? 1300K and 105 Obsidian Shards. That's about a 8 times more, and with an amount like this, that's quite insane huh?
Just thought you might wonder how rich these sort of items can make you..
Pre-Searing character guide!
Maxiemonster
Snograt
Aww Maxie - I wasn't inviting flames or anything. Like I said, I would have done EXACTLY the same as you - just wouldn't have announced it in an open forum!
But, hey, nobody seems to mind anyway.
Good luck to you
But, hey, nobody seems to mind anyway.
Good luck to you
junit
how do you do that max dude..thats intense
junit
how do you do that max dude..thats intense
Maxiemonster
I replied on your PM, and yes, quite insane indeed Don't have much anymore though, just 30 gold Scrolls that gain my Triple XP, 2 10 slot Bags, which I'm both selling and my Victo's Axe and my Superior Axe Mastery rune.
Don't have much anymore though, just 30 gold Scrolls that gain my Triple XP, 2 10 slot Bags, which I'm both selling and my Victo's Axe and my Superior Axe Mastery rune.
shmek
Finally finished a test today. Found a bit of interesting things.
Pets DO EVOLVE in pre screen1 and screen2. They also seem to get pretty large as shown in screen2. Mine levelled to Dire Wolf. I had read before that pets don't gain the evolution traits in Pre, but this one did for sure. It was suprising to see.
They only gain the evolved attribute AFTER being tamed. Prior to being tamed it was called WOLF, and the DIRE added to it immediately upon taming.
My character (Level 16) started to attempt to level the presently 20 wolf for well over 400 deaths - pet did not level to 21. That was disappointing, however, I am second guessing now and thinking possibly more deaths might be needed? Don't know if I'll try that again.... (especially after having the computer crash with the level 20 wolf the first time I tried to test
). I had originally extimated 400 should do it, but now think might need more since the pet is 20 to begin with instead of 5 levels above 10 like I was in going from 15 to 16 on my character.
Some observed pet damage stats during levelling the wolf (no gurantees on the accuracy of the ranges but these were what I could tell before my eyes glazed over):
Level 10 = 10-16
Level 11 = 11-17
Level 13 = 13-20 (single times of 25, 27,28)
Level 14 = 13-21 (single time of 28)
Level 19 = 17-27 (single time of 38)
Level 20 = 17-? (never saw more then 28)
*the sinlge much higher then typical hits seem as though the pet might get a bonus attack from a skill of some kind, but there was no skill animation/powerup. Also they timing didn't permit for it to be from two attacks added together in an odd hit.
Hope this is interesting for someone out there
Pets DO EVOLVE in pre screen1 and screen2. They also seem to get pretty large as shown in screen2. Mine levelled to Dire Wolf. I had read before that pets don't gain the evolution traits in Pre, but this one did for sure. It was suprising to see.
They only gain the evolved attribute AFTER being tamed. Prior to being tamed it was called WOLF, and the DIRE added to it immediately upon taming.
My character (Level 16) started to attempt to level the presently 20 wolf for well over 400 deaths - pet did not level to 21. That was disappointing, however, I am second guessing now and thinking possibly more deaths might be needed? Don't know if I'll try that again.... (especially after having the computer crash with the level 20 wolf the first time I tried to test
). I had originally extimated 400 should do it, but now think might need more since the pet is 20 to begin with instead of 5 levels above 10 like I was in going from 15 to 16 on my character.Some observed pet damage stats during levelling the wolf (no gurantees on the accuracy of the ranges but these were what I could tell before my eyes glazed over):
Level 10 = 10-16
Level 11 = 11-17
Level 13 = 13-20 (single times of 25, 27,28)
Level 14 = 13-21 (single time of 28)
Level 19 = 17-27 (single time of 38)
Level 20 = 17-? (never saw more then 28)
*the sinlge much higher then typical hits seem as though the pet might get a bonus attack from a skill of some kind, but there was no skill animation/powerup. Also they timing didn't permit for it to be from two attacks added together in an odd hit.
Hope this is interesting for someone out there
sno
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My character (Level 16) started to attempt to level the presently 20 wolf for well over 400 deaths - pet did not level to 21.
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I'm certainly not going to test it when I get to lvl 16, but I'm fairly sure it'll stop getting xp after 20. Feel free to test and let me know though
Maxiemonster
@ shmek, Nice post! Oh, and the guy I mostly play Pre-Searing with had a lvl 20 Dire Strider, so yes, they do change apperiantly. I'm still not sure about the growing larger though.. Maybe it's just because it was Dire, and automaticly changes the size to a lvl 20 Dire Wolf, though, if it doesn't get a name, it won't change size? I'm 100% sure my Strider is as small as the lvl 1 ones, so that's the only thing I can think off.. Since I doubt it has anything to do with the fact you lvl'ed a Wolf instead.
It stops after lvl 20, it's a fact. I've lvl'ed a Moss Spider to lvl 24 though, too bad I always forget to screenshot it..
And about deaths.. I win, I've got 20 thousand deaths.
It stops after lvl 20, it's a fact. I've lvl'ed a Moss Spider to lvl 24 though, too bad I always forget to screenshot it..
And about deaths.. I win, I've got 20 thousand deaths.
nova-exarch
They probably added code to stop charmable creatures from going over 20. Someone should see if a bear can go over 20. 
I leved a wolf to 14 and it was aggressive. Then I leveled a strider (too tired to fool with a wolf) to 16 and it has no evolution. Go figure. Both of them leveled up exactly the same with the exception that the wolf took maybe 50-60 damage overall as I was pulling it.
Ah well... it's all good.
I leved a wolf to 14 and it was aggressive. Then I leveled a strider (too tired to fool with a wolf) to 16 and it has no evolution. Go figure. Both of them leveled up exactly the same with the exception that the wolf took maybe 50-60 damage overall as I was pulling it.
Ah well... it's all good.
Maxiemonster
Hmm.. A bear might be able to get to higher level.. Not sure though, since Charm Animal is still possible on a bear, and is most likely still treated as a Pet, which can't level over level 20.
jordan_kneegrow
about pets... how would you charm the animal without getting killed if its lvl 20? and if i contact u in game, will you tell me the exploit?
sno
It's not an exploit... The only way to get a pet to level 20 is to be at least level 14 (6 levels lower.) At level 14 it's quite easy to be able to use Charm Animal on him without any armor at all even.
At level 6 I made myself a level 12 pet, and again at level 14 (lvl 20 pet.) I had no trouble either time with it killing me.
At level 6 I made myself a level 12 pet, and again at level 14 (lvl 20 pet.) I had no trouble either time with it killing me.
Cheise
wow great guide! good job!
Faer
Hmm... Just in case people are still looking for a place to level pets for taming, or just animals to kill for exp, I figured I'd post this.
[Next section edited to keep the nerf bat away and idiots too!]
There is a place in the vicinity of Ashford Abbey where it is quite easy to level animals for either boosting your own level or taming as a pet. Just aggro a few and stand still... No hassle!
I was searching for a place to do this ever since first seeing this guide a week or so ago, and just figured this one out I may be a bit slow, but whatever works...
Now I just have to figure out what to do for the next several hours while I wait for them to level up :| Could take a nap I suppose... I am going to be an uberleet Mesmer/Necro Charr hunter by the end of this though, that's for sure
EDIT- What a rip off... Got the Strider to level 12 (I am only level 7...) and killed it for 168 exp (may have been 148). Now I have to do it all over again...
[Next section edited to keep the nerf bat away and idiots too!]
There is a place in the vicinity of Ashford Abbey where it is quite easy to level animals for either boosting your own level or taming as a pet. Just aggro a few and stand still... No hassle!
I was searching for a place to do this ever since first seeing this guide a week or so ago, and just figured this one out
I may be a bit slow, but whatever works...Now I just have to figure out what to do for the next several hours while I wait for them to level up :| Could take a nap I suppose... I am going to be an uberleet Mesmer/Necro Charr hunter by the end of this though, that's for sure
EDIT- What a rip off... Got the Strider to level 12 (I am only level 7...) and killed it for 168 exp (may have been 148). Now I have to do it all over again...
The Commodore
No one ever said it would be fast... infact, a lot say otherwise .
I was in asc city the other day and spotted a lvl 20, and i asked her how many times she had died (i figured it was this procedure), and she told me she had a death count of 119,000.
That could take a few weeks to get
.I was in asc city the other day and spotted a lvl 20, and i asked her how many times she had died (i figured it was this procedure), and she told me she had a death count of 119,000.
That could take a few weeks to get
Faer
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No one ever said it would be fast... infact, a lot say otherwise
.I was in asc city the other day and spotted a lvl 20, and i asked her how many times she had died (i figured it was this procedure), and she told me she had a death count of 119,000. That could take a few weeks to get |
Teddi
Nice guide.
I like the part about Gwen.
I dont think she died for 2 reasons:
1. i think she is the narrator for the post and pre searing part.
2.I found her broken flute a LONG way away from where she usually is, meaning that she probably dropped it while feeing. Just a thought though.
I like the part about Gwen.
I dont think she died for 2 reasons:
1. i think she is the narrator for the post and pre searing part.
2.I found her broken flute a LONG way away from where she usually is, meaning that she probably dropped it while feeing. Just a thought though.
Faer
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Nice guide.
I like the part about Gwen. I dont think she died for 2 reasons: 1. i think she is the narrator for the post and pre searing part. 2.I found her broken flute a LONG way away from where she usually is, meaning that she probably dropped it while feeing. Just a thought though. |
Take into consideration that "Old Ascalon", the area outside of Ascalon City in Post-searing, was in Pre actually a part of Ascalon City. When you are in Post-Ascalon, you are actually in a farther back area of the city than you were in during Pre-searing. After leaving Post-Ascalon and entering the "Old Ascalon" area, the land is pretty warped from what it was in Pre, however this is easily explained by the fact that the Charr used powerful destructive magic to destroy Ascalon in the first place. This force could easily have warped the landscape. This would also explain why it seems that the flute is farther away.. You have to take a longer route to the location now due to the land warps. The locations I have found Gwen's Flute in have always been geographically close to were it was/would have been in Pre-searing.
Of course, this is just a load of inferences and I could very well be mistaken
mark3h
i found a tattered girls cape much like the one u give to gwen outside fishermens haven
Vermilion
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Pre-Searing has been officialy ruined, ANet even made me delete my level 18 Pre-Searing character, this guide doesn't have any use.
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Bad luck, my friend. Guess Ill be taking my necro to post now.. :/
T1Cybernetic
Aww man that sucks maxiemonster!
When and why did pre-searing change? i was goin back there with a free slot i have.
was just gonna have another mess about with a mes/ranger there for a few weeks.
Oh well, always can do it another time i guess, even if it is only for the short term.
When and why did pre-searing change? i was goin back there with a free slot i have.
was just gonna have another mess about with a mes/ranger there for a few weeks.
Oh well, always can do it another time i guess, even if it is only for the short term.
The-GW-Freak
Why exactly is pre-searing ruined?
Maxiemonster
1. Full high end skill bars in Pre-Searing (including Elites)
2. Guild Hall transfer Exploit (runes/max damage items)
3. Second transfer Exploit (not well known, was nerfed in an hour)
Pre-Searing used to be special. I was always looking for a 6-19 Axe, of course, untill I got my 6-28 Victo's Axe in Pre-Searing. After a while, I thought "Screw this, this isn't why I made a Pre-Searing character", and I deleted my level 18 Warrior. Then I found out how to get a high end skill bar in Pre-Searing, and yes, there are still people that have these skills.
The concept of Pre-Searing is ruined, it's not how it used to be.
2. Guild Hall transfer Exploit (runes/max damage items)
3. Second transfer Exploit (not well known, was nerfed in an hour)
Pre-Searing used to be special. I was always looking for a 6-19 Axe, of course, untill I got my 6-28 Victo's Axe in Pre-Searing. After a while, I thought "Screw this, this isn't why I made a Pre-Searing character", and I deleted my level 18 Warrior. Then I found out how to get a high end skill bar in Pre-Searing, and yes, there are still people that have these skills.
The concept of Pre-Searing is ruined, it's not how it used to be.
jomten
hey, did you archive the guide? id like to see it, i made a pre-sear char a ranger/mesmer, and id like a group to talk to about my pre-sear adventures ^^
Wretchman Drake
How the hell did you get a max dmg weapon in pre sear or an elite? Damn me and my bro today spent 5 hours making a duo in Pre Sear, 1 degen, other Conjure/Fire and went charr hunting. We managed to kill charr but they always managed to kill us even more and it seems they nerfed the drops for charr hunting. Not as many dyes and unidentified armors as I used to see, and instead of Empathy they put in that Shatter Delusions crap? pff
Sha Noran
Wait... I knew about the item exploit... but ELITES?! Um, I'd be very interested to know how anyone could've pulled that off.
jmj102
It was to do with the factions preview, you could start to make a factions rp char then go back and start to make a normal rp char and that would get all the faction and standard elites and skills. However you can no longer use the factions skills, only the current game elites that came with it.
DreamCatcher
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1. Full high end skill bars in Pre-Searing (including Elites)
2. Guild Hall transfer Exploit (runes/max damage items) 3. Second transfer Exploit (not well known, was nerfed in an hour) Pre-Searing used to be special. I was always looking for a 6-19 Axe, of course, untill I got my 6-28 Victo's Axe in Pre-Searing. After a while, I thought "Screw this, this isn't why I made a Pre-Searing character", and I deleted my level 18 Warrior. Then I found out how to get a high end skill bar in Pre-Searing, and yes, there are still people that have these skills. The concept of Pre-Searing is ruined, it's not how it used to be. |
I still haven´t decided about what to do with Diessa now...either letting her be, searing her or just deleting her. Not that this realy matteres at this point as I haven´t logged for around 2 months now (no longer have a GW capable machine online atm) but the way pre was raped realy made me feel sick.
Pre used to be a lil happy place but it´s become kinda rediculous now...
Many of us are fortunate enough to have been given the chance to experience this once so special lil place. Atleast I´ll still have my memories.
Have a nice day all
Maxiemonster
Damn Diessa.. Me and Leorin missed you (even though Leorin thinks I'm an asshole for leaving pre etc.). You missed so much in Pre, we even had Superior Ranger Runes and a max damage bow for you
And you're right, I'm glad I experienced the Pre-Searing that it used to be, and too bad many other can't experience it.
And you're right, I'm glad I experienced the Pre-Searing that it used to be, and too bad many other can't experience it.
Ajantis
Most that roam the pre-searing planes don't know nothing about those things.. They go nuts when they see a +10lvl character 
Speaking of which, I still have 2 upgraded bags for sale, any takers?
Speaking of which, I still have 2 upgraded bags for sale, any takers?
jomten
Darn, i still like pre searing, even though they nerfed it. Ive made like 3 characters trying to see which was the best for pre-searing, and now am useing a w/mo to see how that works (it works in post, so...) Oh well. Oh and the exploit was to use the guild hall button to tele to the guild hall on your pre searing char, then use the storage to grab items. I never did it, so i kinda feel left out. O.o
nova-exarch
I think you ruined it for yourself Maxie.
Once you brought all that stuff over it cheapend what you had worked towards. That combined with the fact that it got so much slower to lvl made it no longer fun for you.
After 12 levels (hey, I play at a more casual pace) I think the only "problems" with staying pre-searing are:
- The obvious lack of monsters. This obviously isn't going to change since it is only supposed to be an introductory area.
- The lack of vendors/traders (dyes, bags, runes, etc...). I think it should at least have the same things available as Post-Searing Ascalon City. Too bad it's not likely to change either for the same reason as above.
Other than those two things, I can't think of anything I would change about the pre-searing area.
Once you brought all that stuff over it cheapend what you had worked towards. That combined with the fact that it got so much slower to lvl made it no longer fun for you.
After 12 levels (hey, I play at a more casual pace) I think the only "problems" with staying pre-searing are:
- The obvious lack of monsters. This obviously isn't going to change since it is only supposed to be an introductory area.
- The lack of vendors/traders (dyes, bags, runes, etc...). I think it should at least have the same things available as Post-Searing Ascalon City. Too bad it's not likely to change either for the same reason as above.
Other than those two things, I can't think of anything I would change about the pre-searing area.
Maxiemonster
I didn't ruin it for myself. If I could change anything, I'd change Pre back to the time my 6-18 was godly for Pre-Searing, and the time that skills were limited to the ones in Pre-Searing.
nova-exarch
What difference does it make what other people have brought over? How does that affect you at all?
If you don't like having all that stuff or those skills, then get rid of it and go back to the old stuff you were using before.
Don't worry so much about what others have or are using and you'll have much more fun (in any online game).
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Basically, what it looks like you're really saying is that you would like to go back to the time before pre-searing became boring. I'm saying you helped that boredom along by bringing the gear over to pre-searing.
Don't act like it's Anet's fault that you got bored with pre-searing.
You're SUPPOSED to get bored with pre-searing. They designed it like that on purpose.
If you don't like having all that stuff or those skills, then get rid of it and go back to the old stuff you were using before.
Don't worry so much about what others have or are using and you'll have much more fun (in any online game).
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Basically, what it looks like you're really saying is that you would like to go back to the time before pre-searing became boring. I'm saying you helped that boredom along by bringing the gear over to pre-searing.
Don't act like it's Anet's fault that you got bored with pre-searing.
You're SUPPOSED to get bored with pre-searing. They designed it like that on purpose.
Wretchman Drake
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You're SUPPOSED to get bored with pre-searing. They designed it like that on purpose.
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shmek
oops...
Zackile Greenbirth
Where's The Guide Gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need help Killing char! I've Made a R/Mo just to play in pre-searing, and i remembered this guide from a long time ago, where did it go???
Ghettochild2600
Was It called Presearing Elites? Cuase that was my old guild in presear 80+ members but one of my officers kicked everyone when I was gone one day and ruined the guild.I restarted that Guild though im the only one in it And yes maxie I know how you feel about how presearing is ruined I loved searching for rare items and now since there is post items in pre Its gotten boring and has made it unfiar for the other pre players since most those people want rediculus amout for there post items I myself paid 275k for a IDS in pre and 100k for a sup salvage kit with 38 uses now 28 uses left at first things were cheap I got 2 bags for 5k but now everything has gone up If there was some kind of arena in presear I think it would make things better agian mabey if we all bug anet about it something will happen cuase thats one thing I would really love to see.
Savio
As there isn't a use to this guide anymore, closed.