Give Heroes PvE Only Skills.
Spike-Me
Since heroes are only PvE accessible now, should they not be able to use at least 1 PvE only skill (perhaps with the exception of the Norn elites)? The heroes would use your character's title tracks as the attributes and only be able to use the PvE skills your character has obtained.
iTwilight
No, this would encourage more solo play.
MMORPG gaiz, if u wnt solo play, dragon age origins or wateva is called says hai.
MMORPG gaiz, if u wnt solo play, dragon age origins or wateva is called says hai.
Spike-Me
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Originally Posted by iTwilight
No, this would encourage more solo play.
MMORPG gaiz, if u wnt solo play, dragon age origins or wateva is called says hai. |
Lourens
I didn't like the introduction of pve skills in the first place made pve way to easy and if they would also give heroes pve skills it would be even worse.
iTwilight
By more enjoyable you mean more easy? I can currently do most of DoA with 2 of my accounts, the exception being Mallyx because I just cant be bothered. PvE skills would make this a walk in the park for any team, specifically if you bought sets of heroes to run them.
Its like playing a PS2 game and saying "If I use this cheat, it will be easy and more enjoyable".
Its not, and you grow very bored and tired of the game after a small duration of time.
Its like playing a PS2 game and saying "If I use this cheat, it will be easy and more enjoyable".
Its not, and you grow very bored and tired of the game after a small duration of time.
Rhadamanthys
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Originally Posted by Lourens
I didn't like the introduction of pve skills in the first place made pve way to easy and if they would also give heroes pve skills it would be even worse.
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Edit: I could have sworn this suggestion was brought up before.
Agar
I love pve skills, but wouldnt that make the game too easy?
Big Tuna
PvE is already easy enough - you can just run the discordway builds to roll through HM.
Dorny
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Originally Posted by Agar
I love pve skills, but wouldnt that make the game too easy?
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Unless they add VHM: Very Hard Mode. In which case HM would just become NM, and NM becomes EM (Easy Mode). As if that will happen lol
draxynnic
Actually, one tangent we could go on...
We don't give heroes PvE skills. Instead, give each hero a unique skill based on their background. Jora gets bearform (the Norn version, that is - possibly a weakened form, explained by her only JUST getting it back), Pyre gets Gloat, some of the Nightfall heroes might get a Sunspear skill each (at a fairly low rank, NOT the rank of the player), and so on. It'd need to be carefully done so that you don't get people deciding that a hero is better than a player more than absolutely necessary, but it could serve to add some individualism to the heroes.
We don't give heroes PvE skills. Instead, give each hero a unique skill based on their background. Jora gets bearform (the Norn version, that is - possibly a weakened form, explained by her only JUST getting it back), Pyre gets Gloat, some of the Nightfall heroes might get a Sunspear skill each (at a fairly low rank, NOT the rank of the player), and so on. It'd need to be carefully done so that you don't get people deciding that a hero is better than a player more than absolutely necessary, but it could serve to add some individualism to the heroes.
TheoryX
Would make the game very easy, 2 players 6 heroes EvaS, YMLaD spikes, there wouldnt be any more challenge left(as if there is any).
Imagine the echo+YMLaD spikes, insta kill.
/notsigned.
Imagine the echo+YMLaD spikes, insta kill.
/notsigned.
DragonRogue
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Most of the PVE skills are over-balanced anyway. This idea would just make H/H even easier than it already is. You already have cons and summons, no need to go over kill. If anyone needs their H/H more powerful, or are finding things hard to do, then they need to relook at what Hero skills they are using, and find the synergy with the Hench they are taking. There isnt a single thing in this game, yes even in HM, that cant be H/H already with what they currently use.
Most of the PVE skills are over-balanced anyway. This idea would just make H/H even easier than it already is. You already have cons and summons, no need to go over kill. If anyone needs their H/H more powerful, or are finding things hard to do, then they need to relook at what Hero skills they are using, and find the synergy with the Hench they are taking. There isnt a single thing in this game, yes even in HM, that cant be H/H already with what they currently use.
madsGW
lol wtf. u want to ruin PvE even more?
Woop woop
simply a bad idea. nuff said.
Songbringer
sigh /notsigned
Stop asking for the game to be made easier. It is already easy! If you want the game to be handed to you go play some crappy offline game with cheat codes to give you 10m super allies to destroy everything.
Stop asking for the game to be made easier. It is already easy! If you want the game to be handed to you go play some crappy offline game with cheat codes to give you 10m super allies to destroy everything.
draxynnic
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Originally Posted by DragonRogue
/Not signed
Most of the PVE skills are over-balanced anyway. This idea would just make H/H even easier than it already is. You already have cons and summons, no need to go over kill. If anyone needs their H/H more powerful, or are finding things hard to do, then they need to relook at what Hero skills they are using, and find the synergy with the Hench they are taking. There isnt a single thing in this game, yes even in HM, that cant be H/H already with what they currently use. |
Completing the Underworld and the Domain of Anguish?
go cubs
Haha...that would be insane...you would absolutely roll through everything...
Only thing you cant roll through right now is some elite areas which, its the point to have a group of people
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Only thing you cant roll through right now is some elite areas which, its the point to have a group of people
/notsigned
Nechrond
I hate PvE-only skills with a passion. I'd feel like a cheater if I ever used one.
Cuilan
If they were to add this, then there wouldn't be any point to playing with people or even playing at all. They'd might as well merge normal mode with hard mode and call it boring mode. Please stop trying to turn a game into something you don't play.
MagmaRed
Necrosis allows you to run a Discord team without speccing into Death Magic or using an elite slot.
Summon Spirits allows heroes to run virtually any spirit spam build better than a human.
Asuran Scan allows an physical damage class to rape their targets.
The list continues, but the short of it is that PvE skills are too powerful as they are. If anything, they need to be nerfed, not buffed. And although the skills won't change, giving heroes access to them is a buff.
Summon Spirits allows heroes to run virtually any spirit spam build better than a human.
Asuran Scan allows an physical damage class to rape their targets.
The list continues, but the short of it is that PvE skills are too powerful as they are. If anything, they need to be nerfed, not buffed. And although the skills won't change, giving heroes access to them is a buff.
Marvel-Kid
I feel quite the opposite. Personally, I think pve skills #1, should be buffed, or elite skills added to Vangaurd, Dwarf, ect. (like the Norn) #2, I think it would be great for heros to use pve skills. You know how when u have more than 3 pve only skills 1 gets kicked out? They could do that for uw, fow, etc. "Heros cannot use PvE only skills in elite missions."
Nechrond
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Originally Posted by MagmaRed
PvE skills are too powerful as they are. If anything, they need to be nerfed
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tyler199580
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Originally Posted by draxynnic
Actually, one tangent we could go on...
We don't give heroes PvE skills. Instead, give each hero a unique skill based on their background. Jora gets bearform (the Norn version, that is - possibly a weakened form, explained by her only JUST getting it back), Pyre gets Gloat, some of the Nightfall heroes might get a Sunspear skill each (at a fairly low rank, NOT the rank of the player), and so on. It'd need to be carefully done so that you don't get people deciding that a hero is better than a player more than absolutely necessary, but it could serve to add some individualism to the heroes. |
anyways, i vote for this being imlemented and discord getting nuked to the underworld.
gremlin
Of course Heroes should be able to use PVE skills there isnt really any reason not to.
Some say pve is too easy already, ok yes with experience most of the pve is easy but it always was, right from day one if you had a good team it was a breeze.
Its easy enough now with boring specialised builds, boosting the heroes skills would enable it to be easy in more interesting ways.
Encourage solo play, so what
Much of the game has to be played solo since the long time players are doing other things and you have a small number of new players trying to find parties and guilds to get through the game for the first time.
With decent heroes 2 new players could form a complete party using 3 heroes each and enjoy the game.
Some say pve is too easy already, ok yes with experience most of the pve is easy but it always was, right from day one if you had a good team it was a breeze.
Its easy enough now with boring specialised builds, boosting the heroes skills would enable it to be easy in more interesting ways.
Encourage solo play, so what
Much of the game has to be played solo since the long time players are doing other things and you have a small number of new players trying to find parties and guilds to get through the game for the first time.
With decent heroes 2 new players could form a complete party using 3 heroes each and enjoy the game.
Marzipan Marci
WHAHAHAH
What's up, you dumb noob? Pve is not too easy for you?
Pathetic lame idiot.
What's up, you dumb noob? Pve is not too easy for you?
Pathetic lame idiot.
Cuilan
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Originally Posted by gremlin
Of course Heroes should be able to use PVE skills there isnt really any reason not to.
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Uriel_Wolfblood
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Originally Posted by draxynnic
Actually, one tangent we could go on...
We don't give heroes PvE skills. Instead, give each hero a unique skill based on their background. Jora gets bearform (the Norn version, that is - possibly a weakened form, explained by her only JUST getting it back)... |
Spike-Me
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Originally Posted by Marzipan Marci
WHAHAHAH
What's up, you dumb noob? Pve is not too easy for you? Pathetic lame idiot. |
If you said yes, you're a hypocrite. If you really believe it would make the game too easy for you, then don't use PvE skills at all. Not only that, but if the game is already too easy, then be a MAN and go into HM with only 4 skills, none of which are elites.
My point is that you people want the game to be harder, and so do I, but you have to find ways to make the game harder if that's what you want. You don't HAVE to take PvE skills if you don't want to.
I do agree that PvE skills should be banned from elite missions, and being able to give your heroes only 1 PvE skill seems less ridiculous. But, for me, having 4 Ebon Vanguard Sniper Supports and watching enemies die randomly would be most amusing.
MisterB
UnChosen
/signed. Along with 7 heroes.
Why? Not because the game is too hard for me, its because ANet is effectively killing off pugging with the Ursan nerf, and now probably going to kill it off more with the upcoming SF nerf and/or 600Smite nerf.
I want 7 heroes + PvE skills because I don't want to get locked out of fun areas without guildies around.
Why? Not because the game is too hard for me, its because ANet is effectively killing off pugging with the Ursan nerf, and now probably going to kill it off more with the upcoming SF nerf and/or 600Smite nerf.
I want 7 heroes + PvE skills because I don't want to get locked out of fun areas without guildies around.
TalanRoarer
/Not signed.
Why?
I feel that if teams want to Benefit from PvE skills they should play with other players. Though the idea of an Imbagon Hero or an ER hero spamming GDW does sound nice, I like the fact that when you play in a team of 8 competant players, the game is far easier than with heroes.
Why?
I feel that if teams want to Benefit from PvE skills they should play with other players. Though the idea of an Imbagon Hero or an ER hero spamming GDW does sound nice, I like the fact that when you play in a team of 8 competant players, the game is far easier than with heroes.
UnChosen
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Originally Posted by BenC777
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Why? I feel that if teams want to Benefit from PvE skills they should play with other players. Though the idea of an Imbagon Hero or an ER hero spamming GDW does sound nice, I like the fact that when you play in a team of 8 competant players, the game is far easier than with heroes. |
Since Anet doesn't want to revamp more areas so that they become more popular and pug friendly, 7 heroes + PvE skills doesn't seem too bad in comparison.
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Marzipan Marci
WHAHAHAH
What's up, you dumb noob? Pve is not too easy for you? Pathetic lame idiot. |
I always love the "but that'd make the game too easy!" argument.
It's not like you can have full parties of humans, each with 3 pve skills, right?
Doesn't THAT make the game too easy?
Wake up, not an excuse for being dumb.
Lishy
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Originally Posted by iTwilight
No, this would encourage more solo play.
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Kattar
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Originally Posted by MisterB
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Closed.