it's probably been already suggested long ago, but i didn't see it any recently here.
so, the idea is - just make the DP-removing or morale-adding sweets spammable even with no DP or at 10% morale. since 10% is the cap, using out all the sweets at it would be a waste in the terms of usefulness, but would be darn faster to title hunters.
anyways, there's no logical reason why my toon can eat 500 fruitcakes at once without vomitting but refuses to eat pumpkin cookies or candy canes.
make DP-based sweets spammable
drkn
BLOODGOAT
Yes there is. That's the equivalent of saying "There's no reason why I can spam Prot Spirit on myself but not [insert arbitrary comparative action]". You're renewing the Sugar Rush enchantment. You can't renew a 10% morale boost until you're at less than 10% morale.
So on that basis, /unsigned.
So on that basis, /unsigned.
Sam6555
Make a bot to use them for you
drkn
the hard cap of morale is +10%. we can see it clearly while killing a boss and having +10% already. it doesn't go any higher. why the same cannot be done unto DP sweets?
same with the DP-removals. a candy cane removes 15% DP, yet if you have 5% DP or evem 1% DP, it's still removable. just set candy canes that they can remove 0% DP as well.
same with the DP-removals. a candy cane removes 15% DP, yet if you have 5% DP or evem 1% DP, it's still removable. just set candy canes that they can remove 0% DP as well.
MagmaRed
It isn't hard as it is. A SMALL inconvenience is not going to ruin the game, and if it does, you have other problems. It is at least easier to get than drunkard, so be grateful you don't have to time the use as well as monitor the kind and quantity. I'm sick of seeing topics that as:
"Can we make the game easier?"
I'd understand if it was difficult, but it isn't.
"Can we make the game easier?"
I'd understand if it was difficult, but it isn't.
drkn
i'd gladly make the game harder. pve is too easy, wholeheartedly agreed. yet consecutive dying and clicking cookies is not playing the game for me, it's just unnecessary waste of time. as you said - it's not difficult, just painfully annoying.
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disagree. you can drink while playing the game, just click that keg every 3+ minutes and you're fine. you can do something while drinking. play the mission correctly, vanquish the area. you can do nothing if you want to 'quickly' eat up the DP sweets. just waste your day with BiP and UA heroes.
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Tharg
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if it's not about the morale boost but the sugar rush - who cares? OP is not asking to stack the motrale boost, he just wants the sugar rush and get it over with. Who cares about a 10% boost in PvE anyway?
if it's not about the morale boost but the sugar rush - who cares? OP is not asking to stack the motrale boost, he just wants the sugar rush and get it over with. Who cares about a 10% boost in PvE anyway?
Anduin
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It isn't hard as it is. A SMALL inconvenience is not going to ruin the game, and if it does, you have other problems. It is at least easier to get than drunkard, so be grateful you don't have to time the use as well as monitor the kind and quantity. I'm sick of seeing topics that as:
"Can we make the game easier?" I'd understand if it was difficult, but it isn't. |
But you always "bah, humbug" every good idea for no real reason whatsoever, so I guess this isn't surprising.
Oh, while we're at it, do the same for tonics. There isn't any logical reason why not to, but I am sure you will come up with something stupid. You never disappoint in that regard.
Anduin
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Yes there is. That's the equivalent of saying "There's no reason why I can spam Prot Spirit on myself but not [insert arbitrary comparative action]". You're renewing the Sugar Rush enchantment. You can't renew a 10% morale boost until you're at less than 10% morale.
So on that basis, /unsigned. |
athariel
cast zealot's fire. use 100 candy canes. pewpewdamage
Andemius
/notsigned
it's not hard, or can't you be bothered using Mes UA heroes and BiP to sweetspam?
Why should it be made easier, it's already easier than drunkard.
it's not hard, or can't you be bothered using Mes UA heroes and BiP to sweetspam?
Why should it be made easier, it's already easier than drunkard.
Damian Manson
if using candy canes for sweet tooth title annoys you so much captain obvious answer here is DONT buy candy canes or moral boosting sweets please its incredibly fine the way it is as has been said before stop making +1 threads for people to post in and leave it be 
Edit: i just glanced over again there ARE other options for gaining these titles the candy canes/moralboosting and i know wrong title but tonics have there uses if you want to gain the title just dont use these items to gain the title's simple solution so no need to change there function i sigh and /wave
Edit: i just glanced over again there ARE other options for gaining these titles the candy canes/moralboosting and i know wrong title but tonics have there uses if you want to gain the title just dont use these items to gain the title's simple solution so no need to change there function i sigh and /wave
Schnellburg
/not signed, go stand outside with a hero, bip yourself to death, and have your hero UA you up. Problem solved.
I have the same problem with using tonics for my party title, but you know what? Just deal with it, sweet tooth is amazingly easy to get, and yes it is your own fault for buying those DP removing sweets. Their inconvenience is 1 reason they are cheap.
I have the same problem with using tonics for my party title, but you know what? Just deal with it, sweet tooth is amazingly easy to get, and yes it is your own fault for buying those DP removing sweets. Their inconvenience is 1 reason they are cheap.
HellScreamS
/signed.
- it won't hurt the game
- I have yet to see one good contrary opinion that would change my mind.
- it won't hurt the game
- I have yet to see one good contrary opinion that would change my mind.
Axeman002
/not signed...the game has enough grind titles as it is...at least witht these u can click as u play
CE Devilman
/not signed
It´s not a Sin if there´s punishment involved.
It´s not a Sin if there´s punishment involved.
aznkda
I think this would be the quick way to finish off your candy canes.
Go to the desolation area, give your hero rez skill (not UA) and healing boon (to make rez go faster) and flag them near where the sand that does instant death. You go on the sand (dont go too far) and you should be dead (you'll get dp). The hero will start rezzing you. When they rezzed you, you have second to use your CC before you die again and you shouldn't be moving at all.
Rinse and repeat. Now you should be getting sweet point quicker this way.
Go to the desolation area, give your hero rez skill (not UA) and healing boon (to make rez go faster) and flag them near where the sand that does instant death. You go on the sand (dont go too far) and you should be dead (you'll get dp). The hero will start rezzing you. When they rezzed you, you have second to use your CC before you die again and you shouldn't be moving at all.
Rinse and repeat. Now you should be getting sweet point quicker this way.
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I think this would be the quick way to finish off your candy canes.
Go to the desolation area, give your hero rez skill (not UA) and healing boon (to make rez go faster) and flag them near where the sand that does instant death. You go on the sand (dont go too far) and you should be dead (you'll get dp). The hero will start rezzing you. When they rezzed you, you have second to use your CC before you die again and you shouldn't be moving at all. Rinse and repeat. Now you should be getting sweet point quicker this way. |
Tenebrae
Well those candies have an effect , if that effect cant be achieved , they cant be used. Plain simple and thats it. The rest give , for example 1200 sec of 33% speed boost , therefore they can be used at 1199 sec of the previous one because they GIVE something. Thats the reason i think it cant be done.
Ofc it wont hurt no one and bla bla bla but dont think its going to happen.
Ofc it wont hurt no one and bla bla bla but dont think its going to happen.
BadgerzFTW
Thread was made not too long ago.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...t10418094.html
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...t10418094.html
MagmaRed
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I think this would be the quick way to finish off your candy canes.
Go to the desolation area, give your hero rez skill (not UA) and healing boon (to make rez go faster) and flag them near where the sand that does instant death. You go on the sand (dont go too far) and you should be dead (you'll get dp). The hero will start rezzing you. When they rezzed you, you have second to use your CC before you die again and you shouldn't be moving at all. Rinse and repeat. Now you should be getting sweet point quicker this way. |
aznkda
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Forced deaths from snowballs in Eye of the North, crushers in Sorrow's Furnace, and the sulfur in the Desolation do not provide death penalty though. In fact, they don't even count as a death (for Survivor), as my Legendary Survivor was crushed in Sorrow's before maxing the title.
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I could've sworn they give DP last time. Ah well.. lol
Ok now I feel embarrassed.
BLOODGOAT
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You offered absolutely no valid reason. Congragulations.
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HellScreamS
erm, yes, I agree it was one of the most invalid ones.
Del
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it would be a waste in the terms of usefulness, but would be darn faster to title hunters.
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HawkofStorms
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/not signed...the game has enough grind titles as it is...at least witht these u can click as u play
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/fail logic forever
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There is absolutely no negative to this. Sweettooth is already a pretty mindless title since all the other consumables to get this are already spammable. I mean, there really isn't a single logically reason to not allow this. I mean... maybe if you just want to make sure people don't accidentally use three of these when they meant to use only one. But, that is still a user error thing that can be avoided. That really is the only possible negative to this suggestion... and its not like consuming a 300g consumable by accident would be earthshattering.
The fact that there are ways to use these quickly via exploiting certain areas and heroes to kill yourself multiple times doesn't mean that isn't a pain and that it couldn't be simpler.
Shayne Hawke
I don't really have any reason to go against an idea like this.
Martin Alvito
I'll give you a good reason: this isn't worth wasting scarce coding time on. There are plenty of sweets that players can click spam for the title.
/not signed
/not signed
drkn
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/invalid.
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i'm already done with my sweet tooth title, yet i still support the change like this. it's just illogical and serves no purpose, as the hard cap is already set at 10% morale - seen by killing a boss while at 10% already, you don't get +2% then. so it wouldn't require too much coding, it's not as difficult to fix as most other proclaimed ideas in sardelac.
it's as easy as changing the generic 'give 10% morale boost' to the coding used at the bosses and remove the restriction of not using them while at max morale.
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if you can eat, let's say, 6000 DP-removing sweets while playing, then i'm deeply worried about your pve abilities. even eating a stack of pumpkin cookies, the ones that don't require you to die before use, is a pain while playing. it means you need about 200 pve trips. maybe less if you suck and die a lot. even counting 150 pve activities per stack. it's more than pve areas to vanquish. and it's only one stack.
changing the DP sweets would actually mean less grind - less time wasted on dying repeatedly.
on the other hand, you can work on drunkard while playing, just drink up lvl 5 booze. it's very easy and convenient - it doesn't require you to die a lot or waste time for setting UA heroes just to get the title, you can drink and finish the dungeon at the same time.
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don't know if you've maxed both titles by doing that thing, but i have. tonics were enjoyable compared to eating up cookies and canes.
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Arduin
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I don't see how my perfectly logical reason was invalid.
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anyways, there's no logical reason why my toon can eat 500 fruitcakes at once without vomitting but refuses to eat pumpkin cookies or candy canes.
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On the other hand, the game engine does not allow us to rise the Moral Boost above 10%, and since the MB isn't decaying over time like the Suger Rush enchantment, you can't spam DP removing or Moral Boosting consumables.
So it's perfectly logical why you can't spam DP-based sweets, but can spam a Suger Rush sweet, game engine wise.
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Okay, now we have got that out of the way, let's get back to the suggestion. I'm perfectly fine with the ability to use DP-based sweets, even when no DP can be removed. Just make the Sweet Tooth counter go up without adding Morale. Screw the game engine.
Even better. When you have a stack of any consumable, press ctrl+shift and click on the stack to instantly consume the entire stack. Enable a pop-up message asking if you want to indeed consume the entire stack, so people won't accidentally eat a stack while trying to move stacks.
drkn
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so it shouldn't be possible to kill a boss while having 10% morale boost.
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furpigs
Let's go one step further for all consumables.
Add a "mouth" similar to the "dumpster" in the inventory panel that you can drag a stack of consumables at a time in to.
People who care only for the title and who could care less about the sweet, alcohol, or party effects would love this. It's would make no difference to anyone else. It would end this discussion and would make the acohol title more desirable.
Add a "mouth" similar to the "dumpster" in the inventory panel that you can drag a stack of consumables at a time in to.
People who care only for the title and who could care less about the sweet, alcohol, or party effects would love this. It's would make no difference to anyone else. It would end this discussion and would make the acohol title more desirable.
HawkofStorms
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Last time I've played Guild Wars, bosses aren't a type of consumable.
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drkn
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Dratyan
/signed
I used a few stacks of Honeycombs to achieve the title and it was terrible.
I used a few stacks of Honeycombs to achieve the title and it was terrible.
Puddin Cheeks
okay, i found a faster way than the UA heroes.
The problem is that you come back at full health and have to 3 spam bip with vampiric.
I made a hero mes, with 16 fast casting, and a 40/40 resto set and only put flesh of my flesh on it.
You come back with barely enough health to live after a few casts by mesmer(they get down to 1 health). Hit bip one time and it is much faster than UA. Give it a try and let me know what you think. I just went inside Isle of the nameless and ate a stack of green candy canes in no time at all. I just bip 4 times then eat 4 canes.
EDIT: A discovery i made. Every once in a while if the mes gets exactly 1 health of less it wont res you. To combat that i brought my obscure r/mo hero and put mending on it. It keeps the mes from going to low but never going very high and one Bip kills me everytime. Works like a charm, i ate 50 greens in 3 minutes. Peppermints and rainbows will be faster since for peppermint you only need 15dp and you get to eat triple rainbows. Now i ate 200 in less than 10 minutes. Not too bad.
The problem is that you come back at full health and have to 3 spam bip with vampiric.
I made a hero mes, with 16 fast casting, and a 40/40 resto set and only put flesh of my flesh on it.
You come back with barely enough health to live after a few casts by mesmer(they get down to 1 health). Hit bip one time and it is much faster than UA. Give it a try and let me know what you think. I just went inside Isle of the nameless and ate a stack of green candy canes in no time at all. I just bip 4 times then eat 4 canes.
EDIT: A discovery i made. Every once in a while if the mes gets exactly 1 health of less it wont res you. To combat that i brought my obscure r/mo hero and put mending on it. It keeps the mes from going to low but never going very high and one Bip kills me everytime. Works like a charm, i ate 50 greens in 3 minutes. Peppermints and rainbows will be faster since for peppermint you only need 15dp and you get to eat triple rainbows. Now i ate 200 in less than 10 minutes. Not too bad.
Del
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now tell me, what has that to do with anything? you just wanted to try being smart and failed or there's a deep connection between capping elites on a character and eating up annoying DP sweets on a character?
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drkn
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HawkofStorms
Of course.... not everybody "buys" DP sweets in bulk. People also get them via drops. I for example, through farming like crazy, have over 450 pumpkin cookies and about 60 honeycombs from the traveler.