Dervish order as a healer

scratchdude

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

27 Dec 2009 at 17:37 - 1

I've been looking at this build for quite some time now : http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build

/N_Arcane_Orders_Dervish, and I was wondering if any of you has ever used this or any other variant successfully on his own dervish.

I have no interest for this build on my derv hero, or when I H/H (being damage dealer is much more useful) except for some missions. I would mainly use it when I'm in a PUG, as healers are always lacking. Is this derv as effective as a monk or a resto rit?

Thx for the reply!

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37er

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2008

Ibiza, Spain

[HOPE]

W/

27 Dec 2009 at 18:31 - 2

Using it consciously, yes.

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

27 Dec 2009 at 18:34 - 3

PUGs might shun you for being different, but the build would help them a lot. I say go for it

Sam6555

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

Legendary Punk And The Wolf [pack]

A/

27 Dec 2009 at 18:47 - 4

I thought that build got killed with the update that changed a few of the skills.

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

27 Dec 2009 at 19:03 - 5

Vow of Piety ^^

How did the old one function again?

Kitor

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

Dominion Of The Shattered Sun [Sun]

Rt/

27 Dec 2009 at 19:54 - 6

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Originally Posted by Lishy

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Vow of Piety ^^

How did the old one function again? Every time an enchantment ended, party members got healed for so much health, or something. With orders being tossed left and right, it was pretty useful

EDIT: Checked the exact effect on page history

Vow of Piety 5e 1/4 cast 8r
Enchantment Spell. For 20 seconds, whenever you lose an Enchantment, 1 ally in the area is healed for 5...41...50 Health.

Gennadios

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/A

27 Dec 2009 at 20:21 - 7

IMO this build, even with the old vow of piety wasn't the greatest.

First off I'm not very fond of untargeted heals, whether they're "random party member" skills like Mystic Healing/preservation or "heals when condition X is met" like most paragon Motivation chants.

Second, the two orders are really only helpful to direct attackers, and one of them only really helps paras/warrs, and others only if they're slotting SY!

Finally, the one really reliable heal in the group is a touch skill. That in effects adds however many seconds it takes you to get to your target to the skills 3/4 of a second casting time.

paddymew

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2008

D/

27 Dec 2009 at 22:02 - 8

I'd take a paragon with attribute points in nothing but Leadership, Command and Motivation before I'd take a dervish as a healer. Paragons have near-infinite energy and have party-wide heals, while dervishes need to spam skills in order to have energy, and even then they only have "random" heals.

akio pwns

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

ny

[KISS]

D/

28 Dec 2009 at 01:03 - 9

i always put GDW if there are melees instead of piety or blood ritual sometimes. BTW whenever i go orders im praised afterwords for being a great healer and support for backline. Maybe its just me being good at it but id prefer running it instead of a scythe build

scratchdude

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

28 Dec 2009 at 06:43 - 10

hmm so I have different opinions on this. I think I'll give it a try then! Akio, can you give a little more details on your gear and skills?

akio pwns

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

ny

[KISS]

D/

28 Dec 2009 at 20:33 - 11

i usually take an all energy set with +1 on mysticism and wind prayers with a +1 mysticism on head. My bar is sorta settup like the generic orders for derv.

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Thats when you have at least 2-3 attackers(rangers, wars, sins, dervs, paragons) and its great to bring blood ritual because if you got monk heros on the team you know they can be stupid. Best to bip them up once or twice if its a long fight. Found it extremely good in FoW NM.

Tips: you can take out GDW or BR for Dark Fury, but always stay near the backline. If anything gets through you must stay within touch range for dwyanas touch, its a great skill. Otherwise energy should never be a problem if you have all 4 enchants up.