I was thinking of a way to fix Shadow Form, and I thought of removing it completely. If ANet did this, however, Assassins would have one less Elite Skill. To remedy this, I wanted to add in a new skill for them, "Assassinate."
Unlinked. Skill. Instantly kill target non-boss. Only recharges with a Morale Boost from a non-item.
Cannot be used on Lich King, Shiro, Abaddon, etc.
Yes? No? Suggestions?
EDIT: Shadow Form would be REMOVED from the game, Assassinate would take it place.
It's a one-hit kill, like Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support, but it ALWAYS gets the extra damage at the cost of being recharged only after a Morale Boost from a NON-ITEM.
"Assassinate"
Lariv
Chocobo1
As Smiters Boon showed us, removing a skill totally is borderline impossible. So no, Shadow Form has to be changed.
Other than that, your skill idea is horribly broken. Unlinked? Just load up a Mo/A 55 farmer and kill anything you really want. Or teams of 8 just using this and spiking down mobs in DoA or UW with it on Arcane Mimicry.
Edit: Just saw the recharge clause. Makes it useless. There would be no way to balance a skill like this.
Other than that, your skill idea is horribly broken. Unlinked? Just load up a Mo/A 55 farmer and kill anything you really want. Or teams of 8 just using this and spiking down mobs in DoA or UW with it on Arcane Mimicry.
Edit: Just saw the recharge clause. Makes it useless. There would be no way to balance a skill like this.
MagmaRed
A new skill added to the game that only works in PvE.... brilliant!
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Gennadios
My suggestion is to change the GOREDENGINE's things functionality.
Which is coincidentally what the Live Teams seems to be poised to do. A little late to the party, aren't we?
Which is coincidentally what the Live Teams seems to be poised to do. A little late to the party, aren't we?
Braxton619
Man cold as ice is so hard.. i know what i will do... go /A and Put in Assassinate to kill the griffon in one hit.
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Heavily abused.
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Heavily abused.
Mustache Mayhem
or what about when you do it to shiro, lichking you pop from behind and then it does the warriors dance animation.. they are crippled with a hex called buttsecks
and bears are immune to it's effects.. if you do it to a bear it's a bait and switch- you end up on the other side
and bears are immune to it's effects.. if you do it to a bear it's a bait and switch- you end up on the other side
Kerwyn Nasilan
Players are not bosses.
"LFG r8+ Assway"
"LFG r8+ Assway"
snowman relic
umm can i say useless skill? insta kill yea would be helpful but dont work agaisnt bosses does end the tome farming thing but it kills its use in any groups
IronSheik
Replace mobway with assway...uhh..nope.
Lariv
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A new skill added to the game that only works in PvE.... brilliant!
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Originally Posted by Chocobo1
As Smiters Boon showed us, removing a skill totally is borderline impossible. So no, Shadow Form has to be changed.
Other than that, your skill idea is horribly broken. Unlinked? Just load up a Mo/A 55 farmer and kill anything you really want. Or teams of 8 just using this and spiking down mobs in DoA or UW with it on Arcane Mimicry. Edit: Just saw the recharge clause. Makes it useless. There would be no way to balance a skill like this. |
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Originally Posted by Braxton619;4996004A
Man cold as ice is so hard.. i know what i will do... go /A and Put in Assassinate to kill the griffon in one hit.
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This skill could be hard to balance, but I think it would be fun, and it makes an Assassin an ASSASSIN.
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Players are not bosses.
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Originally Posted by snowman relic;4996004A
umm can i say useless skill? insta kill yea would be helpful but dont work agaisnt bosses does end the tome farming thing but it kills its use in any groups
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Fate Crusher
There already is insta-kill in this game and it's available to every profession.
All it requires is 2 skill slots, /A and 3 necro heroes...
All it requires is 2 skill slots, /A and 3 necro heroes...
Zahr Dalsk
Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support.
I say just give Shadow Form the Smiter's Boon treatment. Make its highest possible duration, like, five seconds or something.
I say just give Shadow Form the Smiter's Boon treatment. Make its highest possible duration, like, five seconds or something.
Tenebrae
So you have a skill that only has bossnumber+1 uses per zone/mission ? i dont see the point atm or what has to do with SF rework :/
ChaosWarrior
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Just load up a Mo/A 55 farmer and kill anything you really want. Or teams of 8 just using this and spiking down mobs in DoA or UW with it on Arcane Mimicry.
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the value of ecto's would lower again, ...
The idea seems good, but not this way
HellScreamS
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I agree this would even be worse than shadow form. If a player has enough consumables the skill reloads whole the time (moral boost). So Uw would become real easy for an example... Those Aaxta's .... BOOM ! dead
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Unlinked. Skill. Instantly kill target non-boss. Only recharges with a Morale Boost from a non-item.
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WTB brains please.
Gift3d
of all the horrible ideas i've seen in this forum, this one has got to be in the top 5.
god.... damn.
god.... damn.
Andemius
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Why don't we just combine UT and GW and you can have an Instagib Wand?
Warvic
O H M Y G O D.
I know why I still love these forums =]
I know why I still love these forums =]
Skyy High
On its own, this skill would be very useless, but in a team build with 8 x/me with echo, arcane echo, and arcane mimicry, and one me/a with this skill and arcane echo and arcane mimicry, it'd be hilariously OP-ed.
Demonlord Matt
please say your just trolling, please say your just trolling >.<
HawkofStorms
/notsigned
At least I read the skill before bashing it like some people here.
Even making it like a res sig, its still just a screwed up mechanic that shouldn't be in the game (kinda like SF's damage immunity is).
At least I read the skill before bashing it like some people here.
Even making it like a res sig, its still just a screwed up mechanic that shouldn't be in the game (kinda like SF's damage immunity is).
ajc2123
Problem is, I don't understand how that is related to shadow form. I would like SOME of the name to make sense with the action involved at least.
Shadow form
Hex
For X...X seconds, target foe's attacks miss.
this way its the FOE who is in a shadow form, but it doesn't help of course.
*edit* noticed you wanted to give them a new skill and smiters boon SF, so I guess the name would fit.
But we don't need more skills, just fix what we have at the moment.
Shadow form
Hex
For X...X seconds, target foe's attacks miss.
this way its the FOE who is in a shadow form, but it doesn't help of course.
*edit* noticed you wanted to give them a new skill and smiters boon SF, so I guess the name would fit.
But we don't need more skills, just fix what we have at the moment.
miriforst
hmm i agree on that we already got a 1-hit-headshot skill in pve (ebon vanguard sniper support and there is a reason it only got X% chance to do its amazing damage and that is that a skill that insta kill a target shall not be reliable in use.
Dorny
Rotwing would lose all his charm if you could 1-hit it!
So what if SF will be useless after the long-awaited nerf everyone is predicting? Doesn't mean it should instantly get replaced by an uber-skill. Considered that this skill might also get nerfed afterwards?
So what if SF will be useless after the long-awaited nerf everyone is predicting? Doesn't mean it should instantly get replaced by an uber-skill. Considered that this skill might also get nerfed afterwards?
Andrew Dunne
I understand the idea of replacing SF with a new skill and if it is going to get the Smiter's Boon treatment is a good idea, (although making a big assumption before it happens).
Firstly all skills have to be usuable in PvE and PvP, yes SF is nerfed in PvP but EXISTS, Assassinate would imbalance the number of elites, (Codex Arena for a start). If Assassinate was made weaker for PvP imagine spikes still, if it even did 1/4 of their health you would see teams spiking two players down at once, (both monks) and then take the rest out easy.
Other than that recharging on morale boost is a dumb idea for an elite as it makes it very rarely used and thus useless most of the time, and o/p in areas with lots of morale boosts, (some dungeons for instance). One person with assassinate would be ok, imagine teams of 8 all using it could take out a number of groups, (spike down backline kill rest off).
Biggest thing you forgot about though is arcane mimicry and echo, with echo it can be used twice but ok thats bearable, with arcane mimicry everyone could copy it and use it every 60 seconds, (I think thats the recharge of mimicry but not sure). 8 instant kills every 60 seconds, thats enough to do UWSC on its own now really, (ok requires a bit more co-ordination but still).
All in all I hope I have explained why you are getting all the negative comments, any skill that is o/p in SOME SITUATIONS will be adapted and abused. Any skill that has such huge limitations on it, (recharge on morale boost) will see no use except if it can be abused = skill which is ONLY abused.
Firstly all skills have to be usuable in PvE and PvP, yes SF is nerfed in PvP but EXISTS, Assassinate would imbalance the number of elites, (Codex Arena for a start). If Assassinate was made weaker for PvP imagine spikes still, if it even did 1/4 of their health you would see teams spiking two players down at once, (both monks) and then take the rest out easy.
Other than that recharging on morale boost is a dumb idea for an elite as it makes it very rarely used and thus useless most of the time, and o/p in areas with lots of morale boosts, (some dungeons for instance). One person with assassinate would be ok, imagine teams of 8 all using it could take out a number of groups, (spike down backline kill rest off).
Biggest thing you forgot about though is arcane mimicry and echo, with echo it can be used twice but ok thats bearable, with arcane mimicry everyone could copy it and use it every 60 seconds, (I think thats the recharge of mimicry but not sure). 8 instant kills every 60 seconds, thats enough to do UWSC on its own now really, (ok requires a bit more co-ordination but still).
All in all I hope I have explained why you are getting all the negative comments, any skill that is o/p in SOME SITUATIONS will be adapted and abused. Any skill that has such huge limitations on it, (recharge on morale boost) will see no use except if it can be abused = skill which is ONLY abused.
paddymew
lol farm the Norn tournament with only a single skill.
Xsiriss
This is the most retarded discussions ever. It's an awful idea and peopel can't even read it right,he's suggestions something that recharges almsot never and only kills one NON-BOSS/BOSS-LIKE foe,this is for an elite slot too.
Plus the coding wouldn't work.
Plus the coding wouldn't work.
Reformed
I played MUDs for years which had Assassins and Assassinate. The only way to balance it was to have the percent chance of instant kill be extraordinarily low, the target had to be below an hp threshold and it had to be a surprise attack. MUDs are an order of magnitude less complex than GW is and GW has no form of aggro control (sneak, hide, invis, nondetect, etc.) that would make this even realistic. In short, it just wouldn't work. /notsigned
reaper with no name
This would take mending's place as the new worst skill in the game.
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Morphy
Let's make this skill as well:
"Spell. All foes die this instance."
PvE is fun.
"Spell. All foes die this instance."
PvE is fun.