Scamming Loophole

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Braxton619
Braxton619
Desert Nomad
#21
Before you trade something that big, always check the item. This is what I do: WTB, Someone pings how much they want for it, I get the gold (exact amount) out of the storage, and then trade them. I x2 check on small purchases and x4 check on big purchases. Using this method, I almost never get scammed (I think 2 years ago I got scammed).

Also if someone says they will sell something for 200k and you pay 2 times, never fall for it. Always give them ectoplasm instead in 1 trade.

People who are selling guild halls will scam you most of the time. The most popular is he will invite you to the GH. He will say pay before your leader. You pay and then you get kicked. When you PM him, he will be on ignore. That is a smart way to scam for the scammer... then you can't type /report on him. Also it is against the rules to sell guild halls. ANET will not help you there. Trust me, this happened to me before (in my noob days).

If buying expensive things, always check the price before you buy it (PC on Guru is best, trusting random people in kamadan is not a good idea). For example, if something normally cost 30e and they sell it to you for 50e... they ripped you off.

Thats all I can think of right now involving buying things. Have a great day!
animal fighter
animal fighter
Forge Runner
#22
ok so i was trying to buy a mini polar bear bc i dont have a bear animal yet and da panda is too rich for me

anyways

some guy put up a winter present and i say this isnt a bear

but he say that i have a chance of getting a bear out of it

so i check wiki but it say nothing about a bear

but i thought he knew what he was doing since he had the glow hands and a polar animal

so i buy the winter present for 15k and some guy tell me later that u cant get them from the present
byteme!
byteme!
Forge Runner
#23
There's a sucker born every minute.
AngelWJedi
AngelWJedi
Furnace Stoker
#24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Braxton619 View Post
Before you trade something that big, always check the item. This is what I do: WTB, Someone pings how much they want for it, I get the gold (exact amount) out of the storage, and then trade them. I x2 check on small purchases and x4 check on big purchases. Using this method, I almost never get scammed (I think 2 years ago I got scammed).

Also if someone says they will sell something for 200k and you pay 2 times, never fall for it. Always give them ectoplasm instead in 1 trade.

People who are selling guild halls will scam you most of the time. The most popular is he will invite you to the GH. He will say pay before your leader. You pay and then you get kicked. When you PM him, he will be on ignore. That is a smart way to scam for the scammer... then you can't type /report on him. Also it is against the rules to sell guild halls. ANET will not help you there. Trust me, this happened to me before (in my noob days).

If buying expensive things, always check the price before you buy it (PC on Guru is best, trusting random people in kamadan is not a good idea). For example, if something normally cost 30e and they sell it to you for 50e... they ripped you off.

Thats all I can think of right now involving buying things. Have a great day!
umm the pc on guru isnt always up to date. xD and i didnt know selling gh's were illegal? since i see like 3-6 a day in towns lols.
BoxOfCox
BoxOfCox
Frost Gate Guardian
#25
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Originally Posted by animal fighter View Post
so i buy the winter present for 15k
You are a genius amongst men.
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Paladin of Shields
Ascalonian Squire
#26
Yeah i made a killing off this scam this year. It works one every 5 person.
Hyperventilate
Hyperventilate
Krytan Explorer
#27
Quote:
Originally Posted by byteme! View Post
There's a sucker born every minute.
Amen to this.
AngelWJedi
AngelWJedi
Furnace Stoker
#28
when i was buying ectos last night i had a idiot try and get my money for nothing lols. but i just stood their and waited. after 2 minutes he finally put in ectos. any time you buy stuff that is over say 5k do what i do. cry lag and take the time to check items then click accepted. and if they close it early and wine at you then say sorry was checking item in local since i asked for this and you put in that. that usually shuts them up.
Quaker
Quaker
Hell's Protector
#29
Look on the bright side - you got scammed in a fantasy world for play money. Now maybe you'll be a little more cautious in the real world where it could really hurt.
byteme!
byteme!
Forge Runner
#30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker View Post
Look on the bright side - you got scammed in a fantasy world for play money. Now maybe you'll be a little more cautious in the real world where it could really hurt.
You give people way too much credit.
Kumu Honua
Kumu Honua
Jungle Guide
#31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladin of Shields View Post
Yeah i made a killing off this scam this year. It works one every 5 person.
All it takes is for that 1 to take screenshots and submit via the website and boom. Schadenfreude is so much fun! Website reports are the best kind. Instant gratification (Well, as soon as they see it.)
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Darth The Xx
Wilds Pathfinder
#32
I've never understood how people get scammed, I've never been scammed in GW ever, I have overpaid for stuff cus I couldn't be assed waiting but never scammed, it really isn't that hard,

don't rush,
check all items,
don't go outside and drop your money and expect them to drop the item (lol? isn't this why you have a trade window)
if someone puts up the wrong item and it obviously isn't a mistake just cancel trade on them,
if someone is overly insistent for you to hurry up, look closely at what you are buying as people most often make mistakes in haste.
Zebideedee
Zebideedee
Jungle Guide
#33
Maybe in 100 years time, Guild Wars 45 players can hold a seance and ask the scammers from GW1 if they are burning in Hell?
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lishi
Forge Runner
#34
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua View Post
When something like this happens simply take a screenshot of all applicable information. Agreed upon exchange details. The trade window with the obviously scamming materials.

Submit the details and screenshots to the web support. Don't bother with /report as that doesn't ever do anything.

They will research and verify that they tried to scam you and suspend their account. If it happens enough, they will be banned.

Nothing more satisfying than getting a response from support that says they suspended that persons account...
that don't happen
Shadowspawn X
Shadowspawn X
Jungle Guide
#35
Quote:
Originally Posted by lishi View Post
that don't happen
If your complaint is legit it does.
Kumu Honua
Kumu Honua
Jungle Guide
#36
Quote:
Originally Posted by lishi View Post
that don't happen
Response (GM XXXXX) 11/02/2009 09:09 AM
Hello XXXXX,

I reviewed the game logs of this incident and confirmed a violation. The player’s account has been suspended pending further investigation.

Thank you for submitting your report and helping keep Guild Wars a fun and safe place to play.

Regards,
GM XXXXX
The Guild Wars Support Team

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Orly?

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Response (GM XXXXX) 11/09/2009 02:49 PM
Hello XXXXX,

I was able to find a violation by reviewing the game logs of the incident and the player's account has been suspended.

Thank you for submitting your report and helping keep Guild Wars a fun and safe place to play.

Regards,
GM XXXXX
The Guild Wars Support Team
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Hmm...

And finally after the first suspension, this guy was back at it again, second banning for this guy...
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Response (GM XXXXX) 12/17/2009 12:26 PM
Hello XXXXX,

I will review why the account was released. It is now blocked again. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Regards,
GM XXXXX
The Guild Wars Support Team

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Names X'd due to forum rules.
T
The Drunkard
Wilds Pathfinder
#37
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Originally Posted by Invalid Shadow View Post
How is it that such a blatent scam can be played out, today a player offered me 6 stacks of wintersday gifts for 60 ectos, upon them submitting the stacks of gifts, I checked them and they had exactly the same display skin as wintersday gifts, luckily I checked title and turns out they were Special presents (quest item), how is it that players can even put these into the trade window, its a massive fault that needs dealing with fast. I guess not until next year atleast now though.
People who have a shred of common sense will look at what they're buying, or by reading the little white text that says "Special present." I fail to see why Anet should have to change the skin because of imcompetent players.

I love GW because it gives you real-life experience without losing anything valuable. The lesson here is that you should expect everyone around you to try and benefit off of your ignorance.
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lishi
Forge Runner
#38
Well, i guess they changed the policy, last time i reported they clearly said that no news of the sanction will be given
M
Mustache Mayhem
Wilds Pathfinder
#39
was trying to sell another 1000 cc shards yesterday and had a pm to trade for 500 wintersday gifts.. I remembered this thread

didn't even bother to see if it was a bunch of quest items.. that's a pretty good scam
Patrisha MacFarlane
Patrisha MacFarlane
Academy Page
#40
Quote:
Originally Posted by lishi View Post
Well, i guess they changed the policy, last time i reported they clearly said that no news of the sanction will be given
For most violations you are correct, but for some things, like scamming, it is important to them that you know that they are taking you seriously (which they do regardless) and are taking action.

ANet sees scamming as a top violation. They won't/can't help you recoup losses, but they also don't want the scamming to continue or for people to think that they will do nothing about it. Confirmed punishment/revocation of account privileges is suppose to serve as a deterrent. If it actually does, well that's another question entirely.