Update on lags and festival by Regina

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Straight from her wiki page:

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Festival Hats - 1 January 2010

We're aware of the reports that some players have not received hats in Kamadan, and our team is investigating. We apologize to those who did not receive the hats at the appointed time.

So far most of the reports appear to be about Kamadan. If anyone did not receive a hat in Lion's Arch, our QA team would appreciate reports about that, as it would help with their investigation. (For me, personally, I was in Lion's Arch, and I did get a hat, but it's possible that others may not have received theirs.)

The following info would really help our team:
  • What town were you in? Example: Lion's Arch or Kamadan.
  • What district? (approximate is fine if you don't know the exact number) Example: American District #34; German District #2.
  • Did the event take place? That is, did Grenth and Dwayna have their battle, did you get presents, etc?
  • Were you in the town before the finale "battle" started, before Grenth and Dwayna appeared?
  • Which hat would you have gotten? That is, which diety won the battle?
This information is being collected at the link above.

We're sorry about the inconvenience and annoyance this is causing, and be assured that we are looking into it.

Update 1 - 10:46 PST - 01 January 2010

The game has just been updated with the following bug fix:
  • Fixed a bug that prevented some players from receiving festival hats.

Update 2 - 01 January 2010

We will be re-running the Wintersday event at a future date (TBA).

We apologize to those who did not receive the festival hats at the previous distribution times, and for all the inconvenience caused by the bug.
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Lag and High Pings - 31 December 2009

We're aware that many players are experiencing increased lag and rubber banding issues. The high number of players in districts is causing increased load on server CPU, despite the efforts of the load balancers. There are a few things you can do on your end to try and improve play experience. First let me explain what's going on. Each district of a map is likely to be hosted on a different hardware server. Higher numbered districts are generally going to be newer instances of the map, and will be less likely to have accumulated whatever is slowing down the older/lower numbered districts. Therefore, we strongly suggest that you try different, preferably higher numbered districts, if you're experiencing rubber banding or high pings.

We're also monitoring increased game client crashes, and investigating the issues. Our programmers suggest that trying different/higher number districts might help avoid client crashes.

We'll continue to actively monitor the issues here and continue to take steps to address them.

Thank you, and we apologize that some players' game experience has been impacted by these issues.

Update - 31 December 2009

Two of our programmers have been taking a look at the situation and they've determined that the best way to try and resolve the lag, and disconnect issues is to do a new build. The new build will place everyone back into a properly-functioning server when they login. We expect this to happen within the hour. Because it is a holiday, and the offices are closed, you probably won't see the usual Game Update note on the web site. Due to the holiday, will be difficult to get the game update notes localized and turned around quickly, etc.

When you log back in, we anticipate that players will have a more improved experience with regard to the lag, rubber-banding, and connectivity issues. However, we will continue to monitor the issues and address them as we can if the issues persist.

Thanks so much for your understanding, and we apologize for the inconvenience this causes.

Copenhagen Master

Copenhagen Master

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

El Centro CA

Lazy Imperius Legionis (LaZy)

W/P

Great more wintersdays-- more lag days awesome!!

Kapral

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

[LOD]

R/

Yay extra presents!

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

Cant stay logged on to Guild/Friends list. Seems like most in the Guild cant either.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Looks like Grenth wins this year. Extra snow days!

The moment I heard no one in Kamadan got hats, I figured Wintersday wasn't going to end anytime soon.

Chief

Chief

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=344

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
We will be re-running the Wintersday event at a future date (TBA).

We apologize to those who did not receive the festival hats at the previous distribution times, and for all the inconvenience caused by the bug.

Boneyard Spleeneater

Boneyard Spleeneater

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Seattle

Immortal Corruptors [GWAR]

Me/N

I didn't get hats in either city except for the accounts I had logged into the first event (before I left town). This seems to be a common thread. I was traveling when the update hit. We'll see if it's fixed.

Thanks for the effort.

Copenhagen Master

Copenhagen Master

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

El Centro CA

Lazy Imperius Legionis (LaZy)

W/P

Just give us mini polar bears :P

Levothar Kingdom

Levothar Kingdom

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2008

United States of America

Ninjanators of Doom [NjoD]

Me/E

I second that

Braxton619

Braxton619

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

A/W

By repeating the event, does it mean the whole 2 weeks or just the finale?

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

Probably just the Finale, although it would be nice to max Vanguard on a couple more toons with the SD quest hehe

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Meh, festivals can be a strain on the system, but ANet's always been fair about giving everyone a chance to participate to the best of their abilities. I got all my stuff, and I think there was plenty of time for most people, but I'm not going to complain about them running another finale day.

Joandir

Joandir

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Europe -ITALY-

R/

I wasn't bug afflicted but i think Anet is an example to follow about players support and fair.
Good job and Happy new year!

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Well, I guess a bad year of development might as well end on a bad note.

Good luck in 2010 Anet....we all know you need it.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
Well, I guess a bad year of development might as well end on a bad note.
Or you can see this level of support during the holidays (i.e., vacation of most people) as not only a positive reaction, given the usual tension floating around these problems, but also working beyond the call of duty.

Most players play the game for fun and then enjoy the festive period, as they should, while these guys (all of them, from Regina and Gaile to the Anet/NCsoft devs, including many people in between) are working hard to solve issues in the background.

The hat problem was fixed during the first day of the new year via a new build in a matter of hours. Then Regina issued 2 notes with 3 updates in short succession.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

It would be fine if they weren't trying to sneakily cut amount of servers all the time. This is what you get when the game's infrastructure literally doesn't exist to do these events.

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

Fril, it's the pattern of behavior that people are upset about.

In the last six months you have: the end of XTH despite promises it would return, missed commitments regarding balance changes, the R/A update, the henchman contest fiasco where employee communications about the judging didn't match reality, the delayed startup of the Test Krewe (and the public availability of their personal data), account thefts, ever-increasing latency and now this.

It's not that this issue was a big deal. It's that players' patience for error is exhausted.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Alvito View Post
Fril, it's the pattern of behavior that people are upset about.
So, this is reason enough to start derailing threads to voice this feeling, despite threads being opened for venting them?

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the end of XTH despite promises it would return
In passing the last promise was the one to test one last fix to see whether XTH could stay, with Linsey clearly saying (see August 28th journal entry) that if the fix doesn't take, XTH is not returning

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the delayed startup of the Test Krewe (and the public availability of their personal data)
Delayed based on what start date exactly?

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It's that players' patience for error is exhausted.
I don't believe it is, many people are still playing despite the lag, dc, no hat, no balance, etc. Guru gathers only the voice of the dissatisfied (and it's its purpose ofc) which will then claim that they represent the community (many people invoke the "I feel that way and so do my friends" card). I don't believe they do, they are part of it and they're entitled to voicing their opinions, and Anet listens.

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

Fril, I'm not trying to derail the thread. I'm trying to explain something to you. You don't seem to understand why people are blowing off steam about a minor issue. What I'm telling you is that they're doing so because they're upset about lots of other things already.

When people lose their temper, the incident that prompts it probably was not solely responsible. It generally results from accumulated frustrations. Players are frustrated with ANet about a lot things that happened prior to not being able to get a hat.

The frustration boils over here because being getting a hat is a very, very basic expectation. The dev team has gotten this right many times in the past. Experience suggests that this is like kicking an extra point - easy to get consistently right. There's no excuse for screwing up when you know the task and how to get it done already.

As for the specific points you challenge:

If ANet had been on top of the Test Krewe, we'd have seen a nerf to Shadow Form in 2009 as promised. Letting them sit for a month without communication or organization after naming them is just terrible project management.

There was clear communication prior to that Linsey announcement that XTH would be back for certain. The dev team then let the issue sit for a while and reneged on the promise.

People play despite the lag, d/cs, and such because they don't have an alternative. It's play despite them or not play at all. We know it's possible for the game to function better; we've observed it.

I'm not making the claim that I represent the community. I'm simply stating that the vitriol you observe results from a clear pattern of behavior on the part of ANet in the last year. Different people are mad about different things, but there's enough of a laundry list of fail that a lot of people are upset with the devs. And rightfully so.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

someone suggested the hat thing was on purpose.. they throw a bug in the game to keep people bitching about the game- keep them around a bit longer.. then when they re-do the hats they will bang up something else keep the cycle going until gw2

hey I'm just repeating what I'd heard.. like the skill nerf, who knows what's next.. keep you guessing XD

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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Martin, I was talking about you but rather about the person I originally quoted. I won't make any more comments (despite wanting to) as it'd turn this into more flamewar.

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

This has hardly degenerated into a flamewar, although other posters could easily take it there. If you're concerned about outsiders making it ugly, feel free to PM what you have to say.

Regulus X

Regulus X

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

N/A

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin View Post
I don't believe it is, many people are still playing despite the lag, dc, no hat, no balance, etc. Guru gathers only the voice of the dissatisfied (and it's its purpose ofc) which will then claim that they represent the community (many people invoke the "I feel that way and so do my friends" card). I don't believe they do, they are part of it and they're entitled to voicing their opinions, and Anet listens.
It's called Cause and Effect, Fril. If Anet doesn't change their child's [or Guild Wars'] socks after three days [or three months], it'll start to stink.

Guild Wars 2 is tens of months away from us, so the most prominent decision they could possibly make is give GW1 a nice face lift and maybe some tummy-tucks here & there. Hell! Throw in some Botox even, and make this game look as good as possible! If only Anet's GW rep's could animate themselves enough to take a serious look into Guru, search for ideas and implement into PvP/E to beef the game up while refraining from too much weakening of skills that it creates a blatent disinterest in gaming.

Short

Short

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

Protectors of Fate [GoF]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regulus X View Post
Guild Wars 2 is tens of months away from us
Source pl0x.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Short View Post
Source pl0x.
It was an expression that it is going to be a while until GW2 comes out, and the best thing to do is to keep it looking interesting for players. I see no GW2 release date nor it's beta so it's easy to infer that the game is still under development.

Garreth MacLeod

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

So when they rerun the finale, we're going to need shards for one or the other team to win? Are shards going to keep dropping or do we need to save some until the redux?

Jae Onasi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Lost Haven

E/Mo

Hey, more chances for Snowball domination runs and mini polar bears, and for those who didn't get a chance at the hats (which I actually like this year), another opportunity to get some.
They had a problem, they fixed the problem, and they're going out of their way to give players another chance to get hats. I'm happy.