Improving a Build?
Shesi Celerere
Scythe Mastery 12+1+3
Wind Mastery 8+1
Mysticism 11+1
Zealous Vow
Asuran Scan
Aura Slicer
Reap Impurities
Victorious Sweep
Optional
Aura of Holy Might
Drunken Master
I generally use a zealous scythe of enchanting and it varies whether I do 15^50 or +5e. I also use the above runes with a sup vig, another random one depending on what I feel like and windwalker insignias.
So I was playing with my build the other day(my derv is my main) and came up with this setup. It seemed to work pretty well and I hadn't seen anything quite like it so I decided to let you guys rip it apart and suggest things. In general I am looking for suggestions here, the build is meant to just be a damage dealer. I also noticed that it provides both a hex, asuran scan, and a condition, from aura slicer, which works well for discord. I am also wondering what would be best for the optional slot for general stuff. The way it is now, it could be from any profession so there are lots of possibilities. Go ahead and rip it apart as you like and flame about it as you like as long as you don't flame at me in-game. Have at it:P
Wind Mastery 8+1
Mysticism 11+1
Zealous Vow
Asuran Scan
Aura Slicer
Reap Impurities
Victorious Sweep
Optional
Aura of Holy Might
Drunken Master
I generally use a zealous scythe of enchanting and it varies whether I do 15^50 or +5e. I also use the above runes with a sup vig, another random one depending on what I feel like and windwalker insignias.
So I was playing with my build the other day(my derv is my main) and came up with this setup. It seemed to work pretty well and I hadn't seen anything quite like it so I decided to let you guys rip it apart and suggest things. In general I am looking for suggestions here, the build is meant to just be a damage dealer. I also noticed that it provides both a hex, asuran scan, and a condition, from aura slicer, which works well for discord. I am also wondering what would be best for the optional slot for general stuff. The way it is now, it could be from any profession so there are lots of possibilities. Go ahead and rip it apart as you like and flame about it as you like as long as you don't flame at me in-game. Have at it:P
Braxton619
Build Rating: 7/10
Can I ask you... why do you need that much energy? Remove Zealous Vow and replace it with Wounding Strike/Reaper's Sweep. Your zealous scythe should provide you enough energy. Also if it is not providing you with enough energy, put in Lyssa's Assault. Drunken Master is a good IMS if you are drunk using it. If you use it while not drunk, it's a terrible IMS. Everything else looks good. Have a nice day.
Can I ask you... why do you need that much energy? Remove Zealous Vow and replace it with Wounding Strike/Reaper's Sweep. Your zealous scythe should provide you enough energy. Also if it is not providing you with enough energy, put in Lyssa's Assault. Drunken Master is a good IMS if you are drunk using it. If you use it while not drunk, it's a terrible IMS. Everything else looks good. Have a nice day.
ac1inferno
I suggest faster attacks and a [["Save Yourselves!"]:
[build prof=D/w Scythe=12+1+1 mysticism=6 WindPrayers=11+1][aura of holy might][asuran scan][eremite's attack][mystic sweep][protector's Strike][Save Yourselves!][Zealous Vow][Chilling Victory][/build]
[build prof=D/w Scythe=12+1+1 mysticism=6 WindPrayers=11+1][aura of holy might][asuran scan][eremite's attack][mystic sweep][protector's Strike][Save Yourselves!][Zealous Vow][Chilling Victory][/build]
Braxton619
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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

I suggest faster attacks and a [["Save Yourselves!"]:
[build prof=D/w Scythe=12+1+1 mysticism=6 WindPrayers=11+1][aura of holy might][asuran scan][eremite's attack][mystic sweep][protector's Strike][Save Yourselves!][Zealous Vow][Chilling Victory][/build] 3/10
Terrible build there. Don't go with that build.
[build prof=D/w Scythe=12+1+1 mysticism=6 WindPrayers=11+1][aura of holy might][asuran scan][eremite's attack][mystic sweep][protector's Strike][Save Yourselves!][Zealous Vow][Chilling Victory][/build] 3/10
Terrible build there. Don't go with that build.
ac1inferno
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Originally Posted by Braxton619

3/10
Terrible build there. Don't go with that build. Why not? Its for spamming attacks and [["Save Yourselves!"].
Terrible build there. Don't go with that build. Why not? Its for spamming attacks and [["Save Yourselves!"].
MrDark88
EDIT: Talking about ac1inferno's build
That build does work in HM , especially if he has Strength of Honor on him/her. Combined with Asuran Scan he/she will hit 150+ per swing (+200 to quishies). Since he will be spamming the attack skills, his heroes will be eternally grateful for keeping SY! on them.
I personally use Conviction instead of Chilling Victory.
That build does work in HM , especially if he has Strength of Honor on him/her. Combined with Asuran Scan he/she will hit 150+ per swing (+200 to quishies). Since he will be spamming the attack skills, his heroes will be eternally grateful for keeping SY! on them.
I personally use Conviction instead of Chilling Victory.
Verene
I use something pretty similar most of the time.
Scythe 12+1+2 (yeah yeah, negative HP is bad, I know. I still have nearly 600HP most of the time, so meh.)
Mysticism 9+1
Wind Prayers 9+1
Zealous Sweep
Mystic Sweep
Victorious Sweep
[optional]
[optional] - Usually Asuran Scan
Aura of Holy Might
Heart of Fury
Zealous Vow
I don't run Discord so I don't really care about causing conditions. The first optional is just standard "fit in whatever you need for wherever you're going" (I often use either Pain Inverter or Mantra of Flame).
Honestly, it's so far the strongest build I've used. I've done AoL and WS/RS builds in the past, but neither I liked as much, nor worked as well, as this did. And it works perfectly fine in HM, too. Surprisingly so, in fact - I've mostly done HM stuff with my Rit, even though my Derv is my main, and when I decided to do some HM vanquishes with my Derv for Sunspear/Lightbringer points, I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly and easily I tore through things.
Scythe 12+1+2 (yeah yeah, negative HP is bad, I know. I still have nearly 600HP most of the time, so meh.)
Mysticism 9+1
Wind Prayers 9+1
Zealous Sweep
Mystic Sweep
Victorious Sweep
[optional]
[optional] - Usually Asuran Scan
Aura of Holy Might
Heart of Fury
Zealous Vow
I don't run Discord so I don't really care about causing conditions. The first optional is just standard "fit in whatever you need for wherever you're going" (I often use either Pain Inverter or Mantra of Flame).
Honestly, it's so far the strongest build I've used. I've done AoL and WS/RS builds in the past, but neither I liked as much, nor worked as well, as this did. And it works perfectly fine in HM, too. Surprisingly so, in fact - I've mostly done HM stuff with my Rit, even though my Derv is my main, and when I decided to do some HM vanquishes with my Derv for Sunspear/Lightbringer points, I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly and easily I tore through things.
Slasher of Darkness
Verene
Lyssa's Assault is not a very good skill anyway. It's very expensive so you don't actually gain any energy from it, you just recoup what you used, and if your argument is damage...the damage on that skill is simply pitiful. The only thing it has over Zealous Sweep is a slightly shorter recharge.
But yeah, in my experience, ZV > RS/WS.
But yeah, in my experience, ZV > RS/WS.
Bloody Dominator
I was running a similar build to urs only with Whirling Charge and Dwarven Stability (the one that extends stance duration). But as some1 alrdy said replacing ur attack skills with faster ones suggested is gonna increase ur dps a bit more. With zealous vow ull easily spam them.
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Originally Posted by Braxton619
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1.) put on some radiant runes (not recommended for HM).
2.)Zealous Vow does no damage and its useless for pve.
3.)Another thing, Save Yourselves is a poor alternate for a dervish. Because a scythe has a much lower attack rate, it is not proficient.
4.)About the damage statement, your going to need high amounts of damage output in PvE. If you are vanquishing, your going to need a large DPS to overcome large groups. I vanquish with my assassin and my average adjacent DPS is 250-400. I usually wipe groups in a few seconds with my team build.
5.)I'm going to say your build will work for NM but not for HM. It's just too weak for HM in my opinion, and RS/WS is better for HM than Zealous.
1.) I use radiants on my armor and i have vanquished NF and Factions with them without problems.
2.) Yes zealous vow does no dmg, but that doesnt mean its useless.... A dedicated monk does no dmg (unless wanding) but that doesnt make him useless now does it?
3.) Running Save Yourselfs on a derv is far from bad, combined with 3/4 attack skills, ur gonna do pretty good at spamming it, esp if hitting 3 foes.
i admit a sin, warrior or paragon will probably do better under certain conditions, but not always. So taking SY isnt bad at all
4.) This build has sufficient DPS, like OP said u can easily diss out 200-300dmg esp if combined with smite and rit support.
And wiping groups in just a few seconds? wauw, aren't u amazing...
5.) have u even tried the build then? it does a great job in HM and NM (but that aint hard
) RS and WS arent to bad, but Zealous Vow is imo a great elite that surpasses them both.
2.)Zealous Vow does no damage and its useless for pve.
3.)Another thing, Save Yourselves is a poor alternate for a dervish. Because a scythe has a much lower attack rate, it is not proficient.
4.)About the damage statement, your going to need high amounts of damage output in PvE. If you are vanquishing, your going to need a large DPS to overcome large groups. I vanquish with my assassin and my average adjacent DPS is 250-400. I usually wipe groups in a few seconds with my team build.
5.)I'm going to say your build will work for NM but not for HM. It's just too weak for HM in my opinion, and RS/WS is better for HM than Zealous.
1.) I use radiants on my armor and i have vanquished NF and Factions with them without problems.
2.) Yes zealous vow does no dmg, but that doesnt mean its useless.... A dedicated monk does no dmg (unless wanding) but that doesnt make him useless now does it?
3.) Running Save Yourselfs on a derv is far from bad, combined with 3/4 attack skills, ur gonna do pretty good at spamming it, esp if hitting 3 foes.
i admit a sin, warrior or paragon will probably do better under certain conditions, but not always. So taking SY isnt bad at all
4.) This build has sufficient DPS, like OP said u can easily diss out 200-300dmg esp if combined with smite and rit support.
And wiping groups in just a few seconds? wauw, aren't u amazing...
5.) have u even tried the build then? it does a great job in HM and NM (but that aint hard
