SoS + discord
ThomOfDeath
Okay, I want to max some titles, so I want a good hero setup. Is there a way to combine a SoS spirit spammer with Discord? Or is an other hero setup more advised?
Xsiriss
Well painful bond for a hex,guess you can use pve skill like YMLAD for conditions or whatever. You can easily make it work. Or you can use some sort of spirit spamming with SoGM on a hero...your choice.
ThomOfDeath
Okay painful bond is a very good idea indeed, because it's area hex.. Couldn't I perhaps also use something like that with the condition.. Like Technobabble, only then a longer duration ^^
Dorny
I often do this. Painful Bond is generally enough for me, but go for more if you want 
Evil Eye
you are all weaklings?
dr_ishmael
Minions are really the easiest way to spread conditions. I've usually got plenty of Jagged Horrors running around causing bleeding, not to mention all the Death Novas all over the place.
Blind Was Mingson is good - deals AoE blind, so besides fueling Discord, you're also shutting down most of the enemies' attack damage. I usually have AoE hexes/conditions on the heroes, too, so I don't have to worry about it all the time - Enfeebling Blood and either Suffering or Ulcerous Lungs (Jagged = Bleeding = UL's degen kicks in).
The problem with "You Are All Weaklings!" and Technobabble is that they're only adjacent range, and it's usually hard to get PvE foes to get that close together, especially in hard mode. All the skills I mentioned above, as well as Painful Bond, are nearby range, which is much easier to work with.
Blind Was Mingson is good - deals AoE blind, so besides fueling Discord, you're also shutting down most of the enemies' attack damage. I usually have AoE hexes/conditions on the heroes, too, so I don't have to worry about it all the time - Enfeebling Blood and either Suffering or Ulcerous Lungs (Jagged = Bleeding = UL's degen kicks in).
The problem with "You Are All Weaklings!" and Technobabble is that they're only adjacent range, and it's usually hard to get PvE foes to get that close together, especially in hard mode. All the skills I mentioned above, as well as Painful Bond, are nearby range, which is much easier to work with.
Hanma l
/N - Putrid Flesh or Rotting Flesh = Disease -> easy to spread both NM/HM
/P - Anthem of Weariness = Weakness
Another two skills that u might want to take are YMLaD and Finish Him as they come in handy often either to rupt spells or to quickly finish a monk w/ less than 50% hp. Cheers
/P - Anthem of Weariness = Weakness
Another two skills that u might want to take are YMLaD and Finish Him as they come in handy often either to rupt spells or to quickly finish a monk w/ less than 50% hp. Cheers
Captain Bulldozer
With a minions bomber (or two depending on your discord setup) in your team, spreading conditions around shouldn't be much of a problem. I usually run a pure spammer with discord heroes quite effectively. I use painful bond and Shadowsong, which together with the conditions spread by my discord heroes is more than enough to let the discord away. Take YMLaD for an extra one if needed. Good hunting.
ightgg
Painful Bond + YMLAD is key when fighting a mob with a few monks. Also helps if boss is like an RC monk. Which can take foreverrr to kill without proper ping calling for Discord spam. Just advice. Youd like anet would have nerfed all this by now. Using this almost a year ago i think and saw its power. Doesnt anet kill all fun powerful builds? Lol goodluck
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Marty Silverblade
Drop Boon of Creation for Siphon Spirit. It provides much more energy (iirc you get a net return of 9 energy per spirit), doesn't rely on Spawning Power (if you needed to drop/lower it for any reason), and can't be stripped. It does have a 3 second recharge as opposed to the instant effect of BoC, but it's not like SoS builds are that heavy on energy anyway.
HigherMinion
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nice, im gonna try this and hope that i can max my norm/assuran titles for my new rit.
Daesu
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Okay, I want to max some titles, so I want a good hero setup. Is there a way to combine a SoS spirit spammer with Discord? Or is an other hero setup more advised?
For my SoS spirit spammer, I use a hero setup similar to spiritway:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Hero_Spiritway
But I replace the communing rit hero with one that synergizes with SoS using similar principles to:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Dual_Spirit_Spam
Then have another restoration healer with spirit spihon and a MM.
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Hero_Spiritway
But I replace the communing rit hero with one that synergizes with SoS using similar principles to:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Dual_Spirit_Spam
Then have another restoration healer with spirit spihon and a MM.
MasterSasori
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For my SoS spirit spammer, I use a hero setup similar to spiritway:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Hero_Spiritway
But I replace the communing rit hero with one that synergizes with SoS using similar principles to:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Dual_Spirit_Spam
Then have another restoration healer with spirit spihon and a MM. I like the idea, but I have a few problems with the Dual Spirit Spam build you present.
First off is Vampirism on the Channeling Rit. It would be much better off on the SoGM.
Next is Boon of Creation. It doesn't matter if the other rit has a Siphon Spirit. There are so many spirits that you should be gaining all the energy you possibly need. BoC is so much worse than Siphon. Heal is negligible and BoC can be removed. Such a high channeling on the SoGM for Siphon Spirit is also unnecessary. There is so much spirit and potential energy, that some of the att points should go to spawning.
Your minion bomber should be /Mo for Aegis and PS. They are both so good in HM and should be a staple unless you have high damage mitigation from something like E/Mo infuser or imbagon.
GDW and/or Splinter Weapon are not present on the Channeling Rit. With such high spawning plus extra slots, why are they not staple? GDW would be extended to a long 30 second duration. It's is relatively easy to keep it up on 2 different physicals and still have the energy to spam with SS. If the lack of physicals is your concern, realize that minions can use them to a good extent so long as you place them correctly.
I think Anguish is horrible and I'd rather take Disenchantment, but that's up to you. I think the damage is already enough from what you posted.
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Hero_Spiritway
But I replace the communing rit hero with one that synergizes with SoS using similar principles to:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Dual_Spirit_Spam
Then have another restoration healer with spirit spihon and a MM. I like the idea, but I have a few problems with the Dual Spirit Spam build you present.
First off is Vampirism on the Channeling Rit. It would be much better off on the SoGM.
Next is Boon of Creation. It doesn't matter if the other rit has a Siphon Spirit. There are so many spirits that you should be gaining all the energy you possibly need. BoC is so much worse than Siphon. Heal is negligible and BoC can be removed. Such a high channeling on the SoGM for Siphon Spirit is also unnecessary. There is so much spirit and potential energy, that some of the att points should go to spawning.
Your minion bomber should be /Mo for Aegis and PS. They are both so good in HM and should be a staple unless you have high damage mitigation from something like E/Mo infuser or imbagon.
GDW and/or Splinter Weapon are not present on the Channeling Rit. With such high spawning plus extra slots, why are they not staple? GDW would be extended to a long 30 second duration. It's is relatively easy to keep it up on 2 different physicals and still have the energy to spam with SS. If the lack of physicals is your concern, realize that minions can use them to a good extent so long as you place them correctly.
I think Anguish is horrible and I'd rather take Disenchantment, but that's up to you. I think the damage is already enough from what you posted.
Daesu
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First off is Vampirism on the Channeling Rit. It would be much better off on the SoGM.
Quote: Next is Boon of Creation. It doesn't matter if the other rit has a Siphon Spirit. There are so many spirits that you should be gaining all the energy you possibly need. BoC is so much worse than Siphon. Heal is negligible and BoC can be removed. Such a high channeling on the SoGM for Siphon Spirit is also unnecessary. There is so much spirit and potential energy, that some of the att points should go to spawning. Agree, I dont use BoC. I have Spirit Siphon on all 3 rits.
Actually I dont use SoGM either because SoGM only affects your own spirits, so I use Wanderlust instead.
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Your minion bomber should be /Mo for Aegis and PS. They are both so good in HM and should be a staple unless you have high damage mitigation from something like E/Mo infuser or imbagon.
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Since both builds had Summon Spirits, I assumed that they were both meant for humans.
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